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Replying To Claretandblue:  "If there were no senior clubs in the junior championship this year the competition would have been virtually non existent for Tubberclair. No other junior club would have been within fifteen points of them. Hardly fair to punish senior clubs when in some cases junior clubs are doing virtually nothing to help themselves."
The big get bigger and the small get smaller - like the shops and the farms.

dbpcmi (Westmeath) - Posts: 43 - 03/10/2020 17:52:03    2295453

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Replying To ManBallAndAll:  "In my mind I believe the new system is wrong we should be trying to promote football in junior clubs. The fact that there is relegation from junior to junior 2 is a shame. The county should run a proper junior b championship and let junior clubs play amongst themselves."
So only clubs who's first team are Junior, would be the only clubs permitted in the JFC ? Is the JFC not all about seeing who is the best Junior team in the county, as opposed to seeing which Junior club has the best team in the county. Whats wrong with the likes of Athlone or Moate promoting junior football in their clubs, and entering their 2nd team into the JFC next year ?
Also, there is a 'proper' Junior B competition, its at the semi final stages at present ?

KooCullen (Westmeath) - Posts: 17 - 04/10/2020 19:27:30    2295646

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Replying To KooCullen:  "So only clubs who's first team are Junior, would be the only clubs permitted in the JFC ? Is the JFC not all about seeing who is the best Junior team in the county, as opposed to seeing which Junior club has the best team in the county. Whats wrong with the likes of Athlone or Moate promoting junior football in their clubs, and entering their 2nd team into the JFC next year ?
Also, there is a 'proper' Junior B competition, its at the semi final stages at present ?"
Senior / intermediate clubs should have to name a full panel of Junior players which can't be promoted to the senior team in the same season in that case Other than in exceptional circumstances .... but I'll be told that's not fair either.
Facts are senior clubs are using players in junior matches that they fully intend to use in senior games later and this can demotivate / demoralise small clubs which are Slowly trying to-build club morale and lead some to say what's the point and go off and transfer to the big clubs so it's a viscous circle.
Like someone said the big get bigger and the small get smaller.

Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 885 - 04/10/2020 22:10:00    2295692

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Replying To Jack_Sparrow:  "Senior / intermediate clubs should have to name a full panel of Junior players which can't be promoted to the senior team in the same season in that case Other than in exceptional circumstances .... but I'll be told that's not fair either.
Facts are senior clubs are using players in junior matches that they fully intend to use in senior games later and this can demotivate / demoralise small clubs which are Slowly trying to-build club morale and lead some to say what's the point and go off and transfer to the big clubs so it's a viscous circle.
Like someone said the big get bigger and the small get smaller."
The hurling competitions are going that way too

valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1778 - 05/10/2020 22:05:31    2295948

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Albeit it they have more clubs to enter, I think Meath gaa might have removed all senior teams 2nd teams from the junior championship

westmeathgaa11 (Westmeath) - Posts: 77 - 06/10/2020 11:02:27    2296020

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Replying To Jack_Sparrow:  "Senior / intermediate clubs should have to name a full panel of Junior players which can't be promoted to the senior team in the same season in that case Other than in exceptional circumstances .... but I'll be told that's not fair either.
Facts are senior clubs are using players in junior matches that they fully intend to use in senior games later and this can demotivate / demoralise small clubs which are Slowly trying to-build club morale and lead some to say what's the point and go off and transfer to the big clubs so it's a viscous circle.
Like someone said the big get bigger and the small get smaller."
What you are suggesting is that young players coming out of juvenile ranks would have to stay playing at the lowest adult level in their club for 1 year. Same would apply to all those not named senior. This would mean increasing the number of players that senior teams have to name. That's all fine but the net effect will be to reduce the number of competitive games that are played. Trying to remove a perceived distortion from the junior championship arising from the presence of second teams from strong clubs in it is tackling the wrong problem. We have rural depopulation and too many clubs in the wrong areas. Our club network doesn't fit our population distribution.

midfield9 (Westmeath) - Posts: 52 - 06/10/2020 14:57:50    2296079

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Replying To Jack_Sparrow:  "Senior / intermediate clubs should have to name a full panel of Junior players which can't be promoted to the senior team in the same season in that case Other than in exceptional circumstances .... but I'll be told that's not fair either.
Facts are senior clubs are using players in junior matches that they fully intend to use in senior games later and this can demotivate / demoralise small clubs which are Slowly trying to-build club morale and lead some to say what's the point and go off and transfer to the big clubs so it's a viscous circle.
Like someone said the big get bigger and the small get smaller."
How can that be ? surely if these senior clubs intend to use lads for their senior team, then it goes without saying that the players in question must be of senior quality, so, how can a senior player play in a junior match ?

If a lad was of senior standard then he'd have been in the named 24 at the start of the season ? so unless it's a player coming back from a long term injury and is started junior before senior to see how he gets on, or unless it's a player that's new to a club and is started junior before senior to see if he's any good, them it's quite probable that some young lad that might have 'filled out' and has got better since the previous season and has got called into his clubs senior panel. There is no club in this county with over 24 players of senior standard, I'd say the current county champions have around 22 max, the rest of their panel is made up of the best of their juniors, who although would be good footballers, aren't of senior standard yet.

KooCullen (Westmeath) - Posts: 17 - 06/10/2020 20:10:48    2296139

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