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Donegal GAA thread - 3 Like(s)
Replying To Lockjaw: "I see Declan Bogue was asked to leave the Ulster press conference by the Press Officer at the request of Jim McGuinness.
I have great time and respect for Jim obviously, but to me he is being extremely petty in this instance. The Cassidy book saga happened over 12 years ago now. Surely time to let bygones be bygones?" Jim doesn't strike me as someone who would hold a grudge for the sake of it.
Mickey Harte's boycott of RTE still remains and was brought about by something deeply personal. Perhaps it's the same with Jim?
peiledoir20 (National) - 18/04/2024 10:18:20
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Donegal GAA thread - 2 Like(s)
I see Declan Bogue was asked to leave the Ulster press conference by the Press Officer at the request of Jim McGuinness.
I have great time and respect for Jim obviously, but to me he is being extremely petty in this instance. The Cassidy book saga happened over 12 years ago now. Surely time to let bygones be bygones?
Lockjaw (National) - 18/04/2024 09:23:26
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Football Format Changes Discussion - 2 Like(s)
Replying To Whammo86: "It's not and even worrying about this is the sort of thinking that's holding the GAA back. We shouldn't worry about preserving the individual elements of the season and should make it a better season as a whole.
Retaining the Croke Park quarterfinals would be at the expense of having more and better (in terms of intensity and impactful) championship league section games.
Maintaining the National league in its current form rather than modifying it to be used as the basis for the championship also reduces the number and impact of the championship games before the knockout stages.
If you really need Croke Park games to fulfill ticketing commitments, you could have tier 1 neutral games in Croke Park (although Dublin's neutral game shouldn't be in Croke Park)." If you want a more knockout championship and the AI finals in September and a better overall season something like this would be sensible.
AI club finals 17th March
30th March NFL1
6th April NFL2
13th April Club
20th April Club
27th April NFL3
4th May NFL4
11th May Provincial Round 1
18th May Club
25th May Club
1st June NFL5
8th June Provincial Quarterfinals
15th June Club
22nd June Club
29th June NFL6
6th July Provincial Semifinals
13th July Club
20th July Club
27th July NFL7
3rd August Provincial Finals and All Ireland Round 1
10th August Break
17th August All Ireland Round 2
24th August All Ireland Round 3
31st August Break
7th September All Ireland Quarterfinals
14th September All Ireland Semifinals
21st September Hurling Final
28th September All Ireland Football Final
Whammo86 (National) - 18/04/2024 09:36:41
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Leitrim GAA thread - 2 Like(s)
On the plus side, instead of the usual one game and they're gone scenario we usually have, our young bucks played four games and showed they can compete with other teams in the province which should be a help going forward. And there's another game to go, albeit consolation.
eslinchickenmaryland (National) - 18/04/2024 10:30:11
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Can Gaelic Football (Handball?) Be Saved? - 2 Like(s)
Replying To bdbuddah: "I remember in the 1980s being thought it's ok to tackle the man with one arm but if you put both arms around your man that was considered grabbing him and you'd get a free against you.
Now you teach kids they can only tackle the ball.
You also tell them if they tackle with the far arm referees will usually give a free against them so to use their near arm when tackling.
I often wondered did the rules around tackling change or do referees just interpret the same rules differently from what they did in the past? (genuine question as referees definitely referee the tackle differently to the past but I never remember hearing about any rule changes around tackling in that time)." As the great Mick O'Connell once said if you put your hand on a man it's a foul.
Now if Refs gave a free every time that happened we'd have 5 frees per minute.
Only legal physical contact is shoulder to shoulder, feet on ground etc.
Would be a help if Refs group, GPA , managers, coaches could get together and agree on an interpretation and try to apply it consistently.
Seanfanbocht (National) - 18/04/2024 10:40:23
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Can Gaelic Football (Handball?) Be Saved? - 2 Like(s)
Replying To bdbuddah: "I remember in the 1980s being thought it's ok to tackle the man with one arm but if you put both arms around your man that was considered grabbing him and you'd get a free against you.
Now you teach kids they can only tackle the ball.
You also tell them if they tackle with the far arm referees will usually give a free against them so to use their near arm when tackling.
I often wondered did the rules around tackling change or do referees just interpret the same rules differently from what they did in the past? (genuine question as referees definitely referee the tackle differently to the past but I never remember hearing about any rule changes around tackling in that time)." I think there was a sudden craze around "consistency" in the late 2010s which was always going to be unachievable. There was an attempt to make things more black and white but the tackle in gaelic football is not black and white and never will be. It will always be subject to the referee's discretion. Personally I think there was more consistency when referees were allowing for minor pulling and dragging, and therefore giving less frees.
97Cavans (National) - 18/04/2024 11:12:15
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Can Gaelic Football (Handball?) Be Saved? - 2 Like(s)
Replying To Seanfanbocht: "As the great Mick O'Connell once said if you put your hand on a man it's a foul.
Now if Refs gave a free every time that happened we'd have 5 frees per minute.
Only legal physical contact is shoulder to shoulder, feet on ground etc.
Would be a help if Refs group, GPA , managers, coaches could get together and agree on an interpretation and try to apply it consistently." There was many a good hand put on Mick O Connell and he got no free nor did he look for one either… The game is ruined by referees going strictly by the rule book and not using a bit of common sense… It's amazing how they have their arm up for the slightest touch or pull yet they and their 6 assistants can't see anything when a serious incident happens…!!!!!
ForeverBlue2 (National) - 18/04/2024 13:12:02
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GAA President - Jarlath Burns - 2 Like(s)
I think given time Jarlath Burns will work out a solution to the current mess that is the football championship… he is a great forward thinking president which is great
ForeverBlue2 (National) - 18/04/2024 18:41:50
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Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)
Replying To DuhallowRed: "At a concert a few years back in Croke Park I attended we were able to bring our drinks to our seats. I presume the rugby fans will be able to do the same. Also I attended the two rugby games at Páirc Uí Chaoimh and was also able to drink at our seats. So I imagine drinks will be okay at the Leinster game" Only time I've seen people drinking in seats was in Yankee Stadium. Can't say it adds anything.
Why anyone would feel need to have a drink while watching a match is beyond me.
Having said that, allowing everyone other than ourselves to do so in our stadiums is rather amusing and perhaps indicates the regard the accountants hold us in.
BarneyGrant (National) - 18/04/2024 07:33:21
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Can Gaelic Football (Handball?) Be Saved? - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Seanfanbocht: "Rule says you have to tackle the BALL." I remember in the 1980s being thought it's ok to tackle the man with one arm but if you put both arms around your man that was considered grabbing him and you'd get a free against you.
Now you teach kids they can only tackle the ball.
You also tell them if they tackle with the far arm referees will usually give a free against them so to use their near arm when tackling.
I often wondered did the rules around tackling change or do referees just interpret the same rules differently from what they did in the past? (genuine question as referees definitely referee the tackle differently to the past but I never remember hearing about any rule changes around tackling in that time).
bdbuddah (National) - 18/04/2024 09:58:02
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Dublin GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To ForeverBlue2: "Fenton was silly to run after the Derry player in the first place… not something I have seen him do before… He should have been smart and waited his chance and not be so obvious about it… The red was deserved and the ball should have been thrown up instead of giving Dublin the fee in further up the field… poor referring again" Are you a Ref or do you intend volunteering your services as a Ref?
Seanfanbocht (National) - 18/04/2024 10:34:14
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Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)
Replying To BarneyGrant: "Only time I've seen people drinking in seats was in Yankee Stadium. Can't say it adds anything.
Why anyone would feel need to have a drink while watching a match is beyond me.
Having said that, allowing everyone other than ourselves to do so in our stadiums is rather amusing and perhaps indicates the regard the accountants hold us in." Why anyone feels the need to snort lines off the back of the filthy toilet cisterns in Hill 16 (or anywhere for that matter) is beyond me, but these things still happen.
cavanman47 (National) - 18/04/2024 10:36:31
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Can Gaelic Football (Handball?) Be Saved? - 1 Like(s)
Replying To ForeverBlue2: "Turning into a game for whimps… the standard of referring is a joke… running around with their arm constantly up in the air…they are ruining the game.. It's no wonder so many are turning their back on it… Wakey up GAA" With the great strength and conditioning of modern day players it's a shame referees don't let a bit more go in the tackle, the players would be well able for it.
bdbuddah (National) - 18/04/2024 10:48:25
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Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)
Replying To cavanman47: "Why anyone feels the need to snort lines off the back of the filthy toilet cisterns in Hill 16 (or anywhere for that matter) is beyond me, but these things still happen." Yes. They should be allowed to snort in their seats.
Cockney_Cat (National) - 18/04/2024 11:01:26
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GAA President - Jarlath Burns - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Whammo86: "Yeah agree.
There was a bad state of affairs a few years ago where club was supposed to be played around inter county but the qualifiers system meant that the county fixtures wouldn't be known until very short notice.
That led to dismay and more structure being needed but honestly a lot of the issue was because of the qualifiers rather than there needing to be a split season.
We either needed no qualifiers or a set club window but we didn't need to do both." Still think the ideal solution is less intercounty games, spaced further apart, with club games in between. It worked for a hundred odd years until the greed set in. Greed from management for players time, greed from public and the administrators for more games etc etc.
Viking66 (National) - 18/04/2024 11:02:01
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Leitrim GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Leitrim36: "Hand passing over and back and retreating back then when opposition gets numbers back. We have good players but we are bet before we kick a ball with the system the players are asked to play. Why are our young players not coached to kick the ball." To be fair to this team kicking the ball has been the most impressive aspect of their game to date. Not sure why they were so poor and reluctant to do so last night. Occasion possibly got to them.
Leitrimforliam (National) - 18/04/2024 11:24:16
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Donegal GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Lockjaw: "I see Declan Bogue was asked to leave the Ulster press conference by the Press Officer at the request of Jim McGuinness.
I have great time and respect for Jim obviously, but to me he is being extremely petty in this instance. The Cassidy book saga happened over 12 years ago now. Surely time to let bygones be bygones?" I would agree absolutely. 12 yrs ffs. Wise up Jim!
PeterQ92 (National) - 18/04/2024 11:26:30
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Donegal GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Lockjaw: "Yeah but sure anyone who writes a book about anything is seeking to gain from it. If every author stopped writing because of a fear they might upset someone we'd be in a bad place, and I don't just mean within the GAA." I'm just clarifying that he wasn't 'just doing his job blindly and innocently under someone elses direction.' He acted in a way that he knew would upset Jim.
You can write books and do your job without acting in a sneaky clandestine way.
Al_Maguire (National) - 18/04/2024 11:27:38
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Leitrim GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
Was at the game last night. Great set up in Ballinamore. Serious performance from the young rossies. Huge pace and power. Seriously well coached team, you could see they had there homework done on leitrim and have done the same in all previous games. They have a big backroom team by all accounts the players seem to be really buying in.
rossie4sam (National) - 18/04/2024 11:35:01
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GAA President - Jarlath Burns - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Viking66: "Still think the ideal solution is less intercounty games, spaced further apart, with club games in between. It worked for a hundred odd years until the greed set in. Greed from management for players time, greed from public and the administrators for more games etc etc." Problem was it WASNT working any more.
Hence the CPA, "Fix the Fixtures" etc leading to the split season and certainty of club fixtures, no Co manager calling off club fixtures, no playing vl County Qtr.Final Friday, Semi Final Monday and Final Satutday as happened in a couple of Counties.
Burns will soon have the CPA back up and running after his throwaway comment the other day!!
Seanfanbocht (National) - 18/04/2024 11:39:02
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