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Some were concerned that a game could be over after the concession of two goals. If Dublin score two goals against a Division 4 team, 8 points down after about 10 minutes, game over already. If the arc is successful for long range scores and goals need to be encouraged, it might just be a change to 4 points will be agreed further down the line. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8282 - 29/10/2024 22:16:43 2577533 Link 2 |
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That argument about the increased scoring difference makes no sense. Dublin in that instance would be ahead by six with the current system so if the other team is incapable of scoring goals then they need six points to equalise. Dublin would be ahead by eight and the other team could equalise in the new system with between as few as four scores and a maximum of eight scores by scoring long- and short-points. The reality is that in either case (or under any scoring system) the game is probably already over due to the disparity between the teams. That is an entirely different problem and no scoring system should be designed based on the gaps between teams due to imbalanced competition structures. The decision to remove the 4-point goals is bizarre and will inevitably lead to the removal of the 2-point score when the disincentive to score goals becomes evident. Possibly, the 2-point score may not now even make it past congress. CeachtPeile (Cavan) - Posts: 122 - 30/10/2024 11:49:20 2577579 Link 2 |
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Removing the 4 pointer is bizarre but a typical GAA decision. The 2 pointer needs a run out. The success of that will probably determine the next step. I think the value of goals increasing to 4 will be inevitable, delegates just aren't on board yet.
legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8282 - 30/10/2024 13:03:20 2577594 Link 2 |
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Odd one alright. I'm surprised they didn't try to make the 2 point score a 1 and a half point score as well! Hurling had the two point sideline cut for a while before it was reverted - I feel the 2 point score is more likely to go that way than bring in a 5 point goal. It's a shame - as much as it's great to see a long range point you can't beat a goal and u I suspect you're right that there's less incentive to go for them. brianb (Kildare) - Posts: 351 - 30/10/2024 22:48:54 2577659 Link 2 |
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The tricky thing is football needs the long range bonus. It will reward the risk and defences have to push out. In defending from two pointers, will defences leave themselves more prone to conceding goals? A team is probing for a two pointer. The defence is blocking them off. A pass outside the 45 and a long kick pass inside the 20 can setup a mark and a goal scoring opportunity. How it plays out in practice will tell a lot. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8282 - 31/10/2024 21:01:55 2577781 Link 0 |
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That 45-20 play is exciting - but should 3 pts by the reward for that risk, given implementation of the 2-pointer?
omahant (USA) - Posts: 2886 - 17/11/2024 22:30:40 2580061 Link 0 |
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I heard there are TWENTY NINE Rule change motions for the special Congress!? Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1949 - 18/11/2024 09:36:47 2580092 Link 0 |
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They can make 129 rule changes if they like… it won't make one bit of difference.., football has become a total bore and introducing more ridiculous rules is only going to make it worse…
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3023 - 18/11/2024 10:11:51 2580102 Link 0 |
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Harsh. 3v3, solo & go, the improve attacking mark and the reward for the risky long range score should be an improvement. The goalkeeper passing should help as well. Pointless in having a keeper walk up the field in possession and noone laying a glove for fear of being piggy in the middle. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8282 - 18/11/2024 17:48:59 2580193 Link 0 |