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Replying To Eddie the Exile:  "Travelled with little hope but sense of duty to support a team under pressure yesterday. For the first time in a very long time, I could say that the team and setup let the county down. I haven't seen as bad as that first half since Fermangh 2002.
The few Kerry supporters beside us were actually disappointed at how easy it was for them. A glorified training session.
"What is up with ye're lads?" was asked a few times. We had no answers in the stand, or on the pitch.

Thus feels like a defining moment for VC. Draw a line and face Louth and Meath with some self respect, or call it a day."
Agree and fair play for travelling. Watched it on GAA Go and the pundits more or less wrote us off for the year afterwards save Murphy who was just being respectful to an old rival. Make no mistake that first half wouldn't cut it in div 3 even it was that bad the wheels totally came off . A complete massacre at one stage looked on the cards. Think they need to go back to basics play the younger lads. Let the next generation take over. There are better ways to lose a match than performance yesterday.

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1808 - 19/05/2024 11:02:02    2545525

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Replying To MonaghanMan44life:  "Never have I ever seen a worse 35mins in a Monaghan jersey.
Unlike the Vinny/clontiberet supporters in the group who like to make excuses, I put the full blame in Vinny's lap. The tactical set up or lack there of is unbelievable at this level. He simple does not know how to set a team up other than his normal effort of putting square pegs in circle holes. Somebody tell me I didn't see Karl O'C in for the throw in at start of second half?!

The injury issues which Vinny loves to pedal as an excuse is ridiculous, it's his and his back room teams fault for the injuries! The talk coming out of the camp regarding training etc is disgraceful and player welfare is non existent.

Vinny got lucky last year with the draw, we just about beat a terrible Kildare team (look where they are now) and made a semi final by default. If Banty etc was at the helm he'd have the big mouths at his front door Monday morning after that rubbish today.
Get that bluffer Vinny & his brother out of Monaghan."
Well you are a "Johney come Lately" then. Such nonsense been written on this forum. Some want to drop all the newcomers another wants to get rid of all the experience. We went down to play a team who were a whisker away from being two time All Ireland champions. A team that will be right there come final day in July this year. And in their own backyard also. How many of you experts were actually in Killarney yesterday. Believe me the bandwagon lads were all missing yesterday. Who in their right mind could think that a county of Monaghan's size could rebuild in a few months. It was always going to be a 5 year plan after the carry on of the previous 3 years. Yes there are a couple of players not going to make it but will have to be retained until better can found. I expected a defeat in high double digits yesterday and it could very easily have been that. We will get it hard to beat Louth or Meath but I have no doubt the good days will come again. If you feel the need to always be at the top table, then move to the well populated counties of Dublin, Kerry, Mayo or " Cork".

ORIELMAN85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 139 - 19/05/2024 12:53:56    2545555

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Replying To seanie08:  "Gives me no pleasure in saying it but serious questions need to be asked about mgmt after this total shambles."
Totally agree with this the management has to stand up here they are showing no plan to fix this problem just saying the usual it's the injuries that has us this way ,look at your defence its a shambles ,Ryan O,Toole in my opinion and have seen him in alot of club games is not worth his place on a div4 team he can't man Mark to save his life ,he on team in my opinion from scoring a goal last year,move on vinny look around your county,and the older boys just can't live with the pace ,they have served there county its time to stand down and let the new blood in along with a trainer and manager that knows game plans,look the differ that ger brennan has made to louth already and we turned him away ,probably wouldn't have suited North monaghan and county board .No way guna beat louth or meath with this team .

Blanket (Monaghan) - Posts: 40 - 19/05/2024 13:22:46    2545563

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Replying To ORIELMAN85:  "Well you are a "Johney come Lately" then. Such nonsense been written on this forum. Some want to drop all the newcomers another wants to get rid of all the experience. We went down to play a team who were a whisker away from being two time All Ireland champions. A team that will be right there come final day in July this year. And in their own backyard also. How many of you experts were actually in Killarney yesterday. Believe me the bandwagon lads were all missing yesterday. Who in their right mind could think that a county of Monaghan's size could rebuild in a few months. It was always going to be a 5 year plan after the carry on of the previous 3 years. Yes there are a couple of players not going to make it but will have to be retained until better can found. I expected a defeat in high double digits yesterday and it could very easily have been that. We will get it hard to beat Louth or Meath but I have no doubt the good days will come again. If you feel the need to always be at the top table, then move to the well populated counties of Dublin, Kerry, Mayo or " Cork"."
Everyone knows we're a team in transition etc but that first half performance yesterday was diabolical, we couldn't even get the basics right. Sorry but you can't make any excuses for that display, something seriously wrong with the whole Monaghan set up at the moment.

Blackcardnot (USA) - Posts: 13 - 19/05/2024 14:43:52    2545581

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Replying To ORIELMAN85:  "Well you are a "Johney come Lately" then. Such nonsense been written on this forum. Some want to drop all the newcomers another wants to get rid of all the experience. We went down to play a team who were a whisker away from being two time All Ireland champions. A team that will be right there come final day in July this year. And in their own backyard also. How many of you experts were actually in Killarney yesterday. Believe me the bandwagon lads were all missing yesterday. Who in their right mind could think that a county of Monaghan's size could rebuild in a few months. It was always going to be a 5 year plan after the carry on of the previous 3 years. Yes there are a couple of players not going to make it but will have to be retained until better can found. I expected a defeat in high double digits yesterday and it could very easily have been that. We will get it hard to beat Louth or Meath but I have no doubt the good days will come again. If you feel the need to always be at the top table, then move to the well populated counties of Dublin, Kerry, Mayo or " Cork"."
Speaking of nonsense written on this forum:

Last month:
Monaghan football is in a good place. Onwards and Upwards.
ORIELMAN85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 139 - 11/04/2024 03:01:43

And now:
It was always going to be a 5 year plan after the carry on of the previous 3 years.

Well which is it?

A 5 year plan? That's the guff Stephen Kenny was selling to the FAI. 5 year plans went out with the communist party in the USSR about 1991.
MOR turned it around in 1 year. Who has got 5 years to wait? That's half an intercounty career for most players.

Also, it's none of your business if people were at the game or not, and if people are bothered to sign up to a forum about Monaghan GAA it's a safe assumption that they are interested and entitled to their opinion. If you don't agree, just say why.

I still think there was a level of complacency in the team after last year, and it'll be difficult to start a turnaround now.
Who'll drive the team on - we'll find out for sure in a couple of weeks.

PolicemanFox (Monaghan) - Posts: 162 - 19/05/2024 18:50:18    2545651

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Replying To Blanket:  "Totally agree with this the management has to stand up here they are showing no plan to fix this problem just saying the usual it's the injuries that has us this way ,look at your defence its a shambles ,Ryan O,Toole in my opinion and have seen him in alot of club games is not worth his place on a div4 team he can't man Mark to save his life ,he on team in my opinion from scoring a goal last year,move on vinny look around your county,and the older boys just can't live with the pace ,they have served there county its time to stand down and let the new blood in along with a trainer and manager that knows game plans,look the differ that ger brennan has made to louth already and we turned him away ,probably wouldn't have suited North monaghan and county board .No way guna beat louth or meath with this team ."
Didn't Ger Brennan turn us down..?
Everyone loves giving out about RO'T and Wylie.. who in the county is a better corner back? The answer to that question (among players available for selection) is: nobody.
People of Monaghan need to readjust their expectations. The standard of player in the county now is of a mid table Division 2 standard.

HB245 (Monaghan) - Posts: 207 - 19/05/2024 21:36:44    2545712

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Replying To BrehonBlonde:  "The county are at a critical juncture. They are a squad on their last legs, with wholesale required. The advantage of being in Division 2 next year is that a rebuild can take place. Is Vinny the man for the job? I think he has to be given the chance at least. Is there anyone better?"
To be honest based on last year he was the man but can't see him (or backroom team) staying past this year. Not great reports from the camp, players being flogged in training after the Ulster defeat wasn't the way forward and our injury record is terrible (although most counties suffering a bit with this). Stopping even fringe players from playing club league games and then not even bringing them to Kerry at the weekend is another poor move.

sporto (Monaghan) - Posts: 159 - 20/05/2024 10:42:55    2545784

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