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Replying To monaghan_ultra: "Some people just love to give out.
Is the new system perfect? No
Is the new system a hell of a lot better than previous incarnations of the championship? Most definitely
I can't understand how supporters could be opposed to having more games to follow their team in. This season Monaghan will play a minimum of 12 top level games (7 League, 2 Ulster Championship & 3 All-Ireland Series).
I couldn't believe my ears when I heard Sean Cavanagh on the Sunday Game! After 2 weekends in the All-Ireland series we had 8 games:
Draws x3, 1 Point Win x 1, 2 Point Win x 1, 3 Point Win x 1, 5 Point Win x 2 and he had nothing positive to say and unfortunately too many people buy in to the negativity of him and others.
In all but 2 games the result could have changed with a single score by a particular team.
We have the competitive Championship that we've been crying out for years but that still isn't enough for some." The problem is the bigger team aren't taking this serious, the smaller team yes, so it's very hard to judge. We all know the 4 teams who won't make it, so the edge is definitely missing.
I agree its good to have more games, maybe the top 2 go thru would make it alot better, its also diluting the championship look at Derry, Kerry & Dublin who all won, but all the teams apart from Galway looked off the pace.
There is definitely teams treating these like challenge matches as they only need to beat a poorer team and they are in the next round, they are saving players and training accordingly
patmouse (Monaghan) - Posts: 107 - 30/05/2023 13:18:41
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New format does need to be a top two finish in group stages, it will add more days like clones in 2018 v kerry. Think of the pressure dublin would be on this week if it was a top two finish playing kildare. Days of provincials meaning anything are over in the grander scheme of things unless you are a division 3 or 4 team. Our games need more acesss via media as well, and more conveniant match fees for crowds, it will draw more people to games and boost coverage.
222 (UK) - Posts: 618 - 30/05/2023 13:32:44
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In the 23 years since straight knockout was abolished, 11 different counties have played in the All Ireland final and 7 different winners have emerged.
In the 23 years before that, 11 different counties played in the All ireland final and 8 different winners emerged.
Does straight knockout result in more 'shock' winners? The stats would say no.
Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 959 - 30/05/2023 13:50:38
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Replying To patmouse: " Replying To monaghan_ultra: "Some people just love to give out.
Is the new system perfect? No
Is the new system a hell of a lot better than previous incarnations of the championship? Most definitely
I can't understand how supporters could be opposed to having more games to follow their team in. This season Monaghan will play a minimum of 12 top level games (7 League, 2 Ulster Championship & 3 All-Ireland Series).
I couldn't believe my ears when I heard Sean Cavanagh on the Sunday Game! After 2 weekends in the All-Ireland series we had 8 games:
Draws x3, 1 Point Win x 1, 2 Point Win x 1, 3 Point Win x 1, 5 Point Win x 2 and he had nothing positive to say and unfortunately too many people buy in to the negativity of him and others.
In all but 2 games the result could have changed with a single score by a particular team.
We have the competitive Championship that we've been crying out for years but that still isn't enough for some." The problem is the bigger team aren't taking this serious, the smaller team yes, so it's very hard to judge. We all know the 4 teams who won't make it, so the edge is definitely missing. I agree its good to have more games, maybe the top 2 go thru would make it alot better, its also diluting the championship look at Derry, Kerry & Dublin who all won, but all the teams apart from Galway looked off the pace. There is definitely teams treating these like challenge matches as they only need to beat a poorer team and they are in the next round, they are saving players and training accordingly"
I watched the All-Ireland Champions play the Division 1 league winners in the 1st game, both were 100% taking it serious. Straight afterwards I watched last year's losing All-Ireland finalists play the All-Ireland Champions of 2 years ago, there was absolutely nothing to suggest either were not taking it seriously.
I could go on but they were the opening 2 games of the new All-Ireland series involving the 4 teams who contested the last 2 All-Ireland finals. There are pundits who constantly talk down the game with no evidence to support their claims and people blindly row in behind them. They made the same claims about the Division 1 league final and have continued in the same vein since.
There can't be another sport whose supporters & pundits spread so much negativity about the game, it genuinely boggles the mind.
monaghan_ultra (None) - Posts: 197 - 30/05/2023 15:23:35
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Replying To patmouse: " Replying To monaghan_ultra: "Some people just love to give out.
Is the new system perfect? No
Is the new system a hell of a lot better than previous incarnations of the championship? Most definitely
I can't understand how supporters could be opposed to having more games to follow their team in. This season Monaghan will play a minimum of 12 top level games (7 League, 2 Ulster Championship & 3 All-Ireland Series).
I couldn't believe my ears when I heard Sean Cavanagh on the Sunday Game! After 2 weekends in the All-Ireland series we had 8 games:
Draws x3, 1 Point Win x 1, 2 Point Win x 1, 3 Point Win x 1, 5 Point Win x 2 and he had nothing positive to say and unfortunately too many people buy in to the negativity of him and others.
In all but 2 games the result could have changed with a single score by a particular team.
We have the competitive Championship that we've been crying out for years but that still isn't enough for some." The problem is the bigger team aren't taking this serious, the smaller team yes, so it's very hard to judge. We all know the 4 teams who won't make it, so the edge is definitely missing. I agree its good to have more games, maybe the top 2 go thru would make it alot better, its also diluting the championship look at Derry, Kerry & Dublin who all won, but all the teams apart from Galway looked off the pace. There is definitely teams treating these like challenge matches as they only need to beat a poorer team and they are in the next round, they are saving players and training accordingly"
It is some loads of gibberish.
farneygael (Monaghan) - Posts: 230 - 30/05/2023 19:09:41
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