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Replying To jm25:  "It's still neck and neck in betting it's like 2 drunks fighting over kebab. Kamala saying trump left worst attack on democracy since civil war on the eve of Sept 11th was pretty awful too"
That's your take. All the mad stuff he said that's your only take from it?

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8037 - 12/09/2024 13:25:55    2569548

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Replying To peiledoir20:  "Trump is an amadan, no getting away from it.

Harris on the other hand is not but yet still supports what is going on in Gaza, which is worse.

These two being the two presidential candidates just shows what an odious country America has become."
The American electoral system is unique, compared to those European systems, where the party with the biggest share of votes is elected. The electoral college system in US Presidential elections means the candidate with the largest electoral popular vote, may not be elected, unless they win a majority of the electoral college. It should be changed to a system which rewards the candidate with the largest share of the popular vote.

There are two main parties, no third party candidate is elected. If Joe Biden was still the Democratic candidate, Trump would win by a landslide. Kamala Harris is more likely to beat Trump, but it will be a close election.

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1870 - 12/09/2024 13:39:54    2569550

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Replying To peiledoir20:  "Trump is an amadan, no getting away from it.

Harris on the other hand is not but yet still supports what is going on in Gaza, which is worse.

These two being the two presidential candidates just shows what an odious country America has become."
America has been odious for a very long time, sticking it's nose in everywhere, claiming to be the moral authority for the whole world, the list of countries they have left in a heap is shameful.

Libya x 2
Haiti
Iraq
Vietnam
Korea

Freedom and democracy for all, (as long as it doesn't directly affect them negatively).

dolfos (Longford) - Posts: 124 - 12/09/2024 13:47:52    2569554

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Replying To peiledoir20:  "Trump is an amadan, no getting away from it.

Harris on the other hand is not but yet still supports what is going on in Gaza, which is worse.

These two being the two presidential candidates just shows what an odious country America has become."
Exactly it depends what you want could be a nasty arrogant self centred badly tanned old man.

Or someone who pretends to be nice, is down with the kids but is every bit as odious behind it all

For all the talk not a whole pile of difference between trump 4 years and Biden yet all we heard pre 2016 was what a disaster he would be.

jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1248 - 12/09/2024 13:52:22    2569557

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Replying To jm25:  "Exactly it depends what you want could be a nasty arrogant self centred badly tanned old man.

Or someone who pretends to be nice, is down with the kids but is every bit as odious behind it all

For all the talk not a whole pile of difference between trump 4 years and Biden yet all we heard pre 2016 was what a disaster he would be."
You are a gas man. Can't admit fully that Trump is an absolute lunatic.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8037 - 12/09/2024 14:10:49    2569559

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Replying To dolfos:  "America has been odious for a very long time, sticking it's nose in everywhere, claiming to be the moral authority for the whole world, the list of countries they have left in a heap is shameful.

Libya x 2
Haiti
Iraq
Vietnam
Korea

Freedom and democracy for all, (as long as it doesn't directly affect them negatively)."
On the other hand, they cleaned up the Balkan War in 3 weeks flat, and if the EU had facilitated their 'contribution' earlier, a substantial reduction to the estimated 100,000 casualties might have been realised.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3827 - 12/09/2024 14:17:33    2569563

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It genuinely scares me that this is a close US Presidential race. The fact that close to half of a population of the world's largest democracy can watch Trump's performance the other night and still vote for him blows my mind. Whatever your thoughts on Harris, Trump is quite clearly unhinged. Let's be honest, if someone was talking like that to you in a pub you would be taking the keys off them. This guy has a 50:50 chance of being the most powerful man in the free world.

It has to come down to the fact that social media has brainwashed people beyond repair. People simply can't believe the evidence of their own eyes anymore. Immigrants eating cats and dogs, babies aborted after birth, only accepting the election result if he wins etc. etc. Then when corrected, Trump and his supporters reckon it is a 3 on 1 debate. Sharing false videos online to try and show their man was correct with these absurd conspiracy theories.

Stupidity is also a disease that can cross the Atlantic and considering the rise of far right populist candidates in this country, I genuinely fear that we could follow suit over the next few years. If so, I fear for the country my kids will grow up in. It's imperative that Trump gets beat in November and it's even more imperative that the GOP dumps Trump and his cronies and moves back to the real conservative values they have tried championing for years.

Monaghansclown (Monaghan) - Posts: 182 - 12/09/2024 15:15:38    2569576

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "You are a gas man. Can't admit fully that Trump is an absolute lunatic."
Where have I said he's not a header?? he is, along with been a felon and probley a fraudster

Do you not get it ?? He's an absolute taepot but Harris who's meant to be intelligent articulate etc when it comes down to it will be not much different

Maybe trump will do more to stop what happening in Gaza ??what you think of Biden Harris efforts stopping that are they not absolute lunatics for not doing more ?? Your a gas man.

At least we know what he is and makes no apologies he is easier manage

It's the sly ones who are nice to your face that could stab you in back you need to watch.



Like I didn't find things much bad during his previous reign despite what we were told before he won the election.

Actually I got to move back west and my salary improved a fair bit during his last term.

I hate how you have to black white one side good one bad.

Realistically how much say do him Biden have now?? it's just a figure head role no more then Michael D, who on a separate point needs to get a move on meeting teams at the aviva.

jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1248 - 12/09/2024 15:19:46    2569577

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "You are a gas man. Can't admit fully that Trump is an absolute lunatic."
After what I called trump in that post you picked me out as defending him.

Your a gas man see you on here on all the time speaking down to others sometimes rightly when the master was in here.

I'm only going off the bookies but it's still up in the air prob 51/49 in Harris favour.

It sad that such a thing could swing an election but Taylor swift ( who is a good egg in my opinion) endorsement could be a bigger factor then trump doing badly in the debate

jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1248 - 12/09/2024 15:27:27    2569580

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Replying To jm25:  "After what I called trump in that post you picked me out as defending him.

Your a gas man see you on here on all the time speaking down to others sometimes rightly when the master was in here.

I'm only going off the bookies but it's still up in the air prob 51/49 in Harris favour.

It sad that such a thing could swing an election but Taylor swift ( who is a good egg in my opinion) endorsement could be a bigger factor then trump doing badly in the debate"
Jeez you got fairly triggered. In your post you basically said there is no difference in America no matter who is in charge. I wasn't speaking down to you but simply pointing out him getting re elected is very dangerous. And he will want riots in the street if not elected.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8037 - 12/09/2024 16:00:50    2569585

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Replying To jm25:  "Where have I said he's not a header?? he is, along with been a felon and probley a fraudster

Do you not get it ?? He's an absolute taepot but Harris who's meant to be intelligent articulate etc when it comes down to it will be not much different

Maybe trump will do more to stop what happening in Gaza ??what you think of Biden Harris efforts stopping that are they not absolute lunatics for not doing more ?? Your a gas man.

At least we know what he is and makes no apologies he is easier manage

It's the sly ones who are nice to your face that could stab you in back you need to watch.



Like I didn't find things much bad during his previous reign despite what we were told before he won the election.

Actually I got to move back west and my salary improved a fair bit during his last term.

I hate how you have to black white one side good one bad.

Realistically how much say do him Biden have now?? it's just a figure head role no more then Michael D, who on a separate point needs to get a move on meeting teams at the aviva."
Trump will do nothing in Gaza. If it suits him he will support whoever keeps him in power.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8037 - 12/09/2024 16:04:37    2569586

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