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Replying To Tadhg2020:  "Now how can anyone respond to one anecdotal example without knowing anything about the offence charged with, offender, probation report, mitigating circumstances etc.
As I've said before, serious criminals dont tend to accumulate 147 previous convictions. Habitual petty criminals do. Thats just a fact. Serious crimes carry lengthy sentences. Less serious crimes carry shorter or non custodial sentences. Then there is the entitlement to bail and the presumption of innocence.
Nobody wants dangerous convicted criminals in society but there is due process. There is also a limited number of prison spaces. Thats a reality."
You only seem concerned for the welfare of the career criminal, I haven't seen any concern for the innocent victims who are left behind after crimes by these 'petty' criminals, victims who suffer stress or struggle to sleep at night following a burglary or following an assault outside the local Aldi shop. These 'Petty' criminals prey on the weak or vulnerable, and the law protects them from being dealt with more brutally.

I understand due process, which I welcome in vast majority of legal cases. However I think by the time some career criminal reaches 100 previous convictions, as punishment, they should lose such civil privileges and be presumed guilty until proven innocent.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1837 - 12/05/2026 23:54:22    2672702

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Replying To Tadhg2020:  "Now how can anyone respond to one anecdotal example without knowing anything about the offence charged with, offender, probation report, mitigating circumstances etc.
As I've said before, serious criminals dont tend to accumulate 147 previous convictions. Habitual petty criminals do. Thats just a fact. Serious crimes carry lengthy sentences. Less serious crimes carry shorter or non custodial sentences. Then there is the entitlement to bail and the presumption of innocence.
Nobody wants dangerous convicted criminals in society but there is due process. There is also a limited number of prison spaces. Thats a reality."
I don't know whether you mean to or not, but you sound like you are giving serial offenders a free pass because they maybe petty crimes. Are there no victims to consider ? It is our justice system their to protect all of us. If some of these serial offenders went to jail that would have reduced the amount of crimes they could commit and in turn reduce the amount of victims.

Yesterday a man was sentenced to 5 years for a hit and run where a 34 year old mother was killed
''The court was told that he had 16 previous convictions, including five under the Road Traffic Act, two under the Larceny Act and others connected to Covid regulations while operating a licensed premises''

5 of these previous convictions show a clear disregard for driving on our road, maybe if we were a little less lenient on these that man would have learned is lesson, but we where lenient and he clearly did not and unfortunately a young mother paid the price. In my opinion we need to be a little less lenient as the current position is not working with reoffenders.

ulsterrules (Donegal) - Posts: 285 - 13/05/2026 09:31:29    2672722

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@Commodore - https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2026/0514/1573265-it-spending/

More good money thrown after bad....

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 10337 - 14/05/2026 08:48:11    2672896

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "@Commodore - https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2026/0514/1573265-it-spending/

More good money thrown after bad...."
Widespread lack of accountability across the board.

I suspect Senior Public Sector/Civil servants are likely to blame for poor project management, Government ministers have a tendency to rely heavily on their department heads, most of whom have little or no real world project management experience outside of their respective unionized public departments.

A major overhaul of Public Sector non-front line workers, including inefficient management structures is badly needed, but it will never happen under a FF/FG led government, as most of their unwavering support is from these departments, and they don't have the stomach.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1837 - 14/05/2026 13:49:03    2672959

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Replying To Commodore:  "Widespread lack of accountability across the board.

I suspect Senior Public Sector/Civil servants are likely to blame for poor project management, Government ministers have a tendency to rely heavily on their department heads, most of whom have little or no real world project management experience outside of their respective unionized public departments.

A major overhaul of Public Sector non-front line workers, including inefficient management structures is badly needed, but it will never happen under a FF/FG led government, as most of their unwavering support is from these departments, and they don't have the stomach."
Wondering what makes you think such a major overall of the Public Sector will happen under a non-FF/FG government?

As someone who is currently a public servant, (and a frontline worker at that) I can state with absolute certainty that the current putative alternative to the current government will not make any meaningful changes to the way things are done.

I've been a member of a union all my life (and as a colleague of mine once described them, they are a "necessary evil") but I will say that ONE aspect to the problem is the power of public sector unions (short-termism by the political class i.e. just doing populist stuff to help them get re-elected , and incompetent management are 2 further legs to the stool).

You mention "inefficient management structures". Let me be blunt about this -- the unions are a major contributor to that. Over the years they have negotiated promotional pathways for their members into "makey -up" management roles which clog up the system. In many cases, this denudes frontline services of badly needed personnel. In my own case, I made a conscious decision to remain in the frontline because that's where my energy and enthusiasm for my work comes from and being in an administrative management role would be, for me, soul-destroying , but quite a sizeable percentage of my colleagues (possibly the majority) would have a different attitude which is perfectly fine. When the opportunity is there they will go into the administrative labyrinth , more pay with less stress and less work to do and more luck to them. And even on the frontline a nice little number can occasionally be negotiated between unions and management for the provision of a service that looks good on paper but might not be cost-effective in overall terms. Currently I'm a part beneficiary of that.

I could say a lot more but I will leave it at that. You are very niave if you think the alternative to the current government will change all or any of this.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 2131 - 20/05/2026 11:45:43    2674307

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