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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "You missed the point. Of course there are lots of people from other than 'privileged' backgrounds who have done well.

Despite the stifling attitude of much of the professional and financial elite which did not support the sort of indigenous enterprise that Lemass and others tried to stimulate. It was that attitude that led Lemass to turn to foreign investment.

Landlords, barristers, accountants, chartered surveyors and civil service mandarins do not create enterprise and employment. They thrive off getting a cut from those who do."
How are any of those people going to prevent a person from making a success of themselves? It's just another excuse. How is a person from South County Dublin that's been born onto affluence going to stop somebody else making a success of themselves? There are plenty of routes to success. Begrudging somebody else because of their good fortune is going to prevent your own progress.

ThePowerhouse (Leitrim) - Posts: 291 - 09/04/2026 16:12:51    2665444

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Could Mc Ilroy be handing over the green jacket to Shane Lowry come late Sunday night?"
I hope he hands it to DeChambeau or Patrick Reed. Fred Couples at -1, nice to see an older lad in the mix.

SouthGalway (Galway) - Posts: 254 - 09/04/2026 17:48:19    2665451

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Replying To Commodore:  "I wasn't aware that he introduced that, it was a brilliant move, he obviously had the vision to understand the potential of a highly educated Country, in terms of attracting outside investment.

The Civil Service doesn't surprise me sadly, we have a bloated admin heavy public sector with inefficiencies which are maintained by the various Unions. Ireland has a shortage of front line healthcare workers, but has an abundance of HSE offices containing admin workers.

Its not just the HSE, its the same with Revenue, DSP, ETB etc, they have created bloated admin structures and titles such as "officer", which justify paying basic admin roles anywhere from €40k - €78k for a 35 hour week and once permanent, its near impossible to lose your job. I was shocked recently when i got some insight the pay grades in some of these roles, its a huge drain on public finances, yet it never gets mentioned."
Ah we dont have that bloated a public sector and yes we have a shortage of front line nurses and front line health care workers many of the admin staff are necessary and just cutting many of them isnt the answer and doesnt fix anything to help the health service
Same with revenue, social protection.
what do you work as that you know of all these groups//sectors and that they all are bloated. i think you havent a clue based on your dismissal of job roles because they use officer in the title. clerical officer, executive officer, etc isnt wrong. the basic admin roles dont get 40k. you have to be working quite a few years or in middle management to be earning 40k or more.

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3955 - 09/04/2026 19:20:18    2665460

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "You missed the point. Of course there are lots of people from other than 'privileged' backgrounds who have done well.

Despite the stifling attitude of much of the professional and financial elite which did not support the sort of indigenous enterprise that Lemass and others tried to stimulate. It was that attitude that led Lemass to turn to foreign investment.

Landlords, barristers, accountants, chartered surveyors and civil service mandarins do not create enterprise and employment. They thrive off getting a cut from those who do."
all the below is absolute garbage
"Landlords, barristers, accountants, chartered surveyors and civil service mandarins do not create enterprise and employment. They thrive off getting a cut from those who do."

If you dont think civil servants dont create enterprise and employment then you havent got a notion of anything and are not qualified to discuss anything

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3955 - 09/04/2026 19:22:34    2665462

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