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So Tom Condon and Aaron Costello obviously injured. Who would have thought that 4/5 out of the full backs would get injured. Vert difficult to plan for that outcome! So IMO that's the reason Dan is FB and not Sean Finn.

If we do get over Clare, which I think we will, I would worry about Dan playing FB against the Tipp FF line.

Seeking_silver (Limerick) - Posts: 294 - 24/10/2020 13:44:11    2300734

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Are Barry Murphy and Colin Ryan considered for the squad anymore.?
Feel both still could make a contribution.

hamstring (Limerick) - Posts: 314 - 24/10/2020 17:36:18    2300849

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Think get over match tomorrow before we worry about what is to come..best of luck to all involved..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 1154 - 24/10/2020 17:37:52    2300850

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Replying To hamstring:  "Are Barry Murphy and Colin Ryan considered for the squad anymore.?
Feel both still could make a contribution."
They were dropped for disciplinary issues

blackspot91 (Limerick) - Posts: 1018 - 24/10/2020 18:05:50    2300870

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Replying To blackspot91:  "They were dropped for disciplinary issues"
Ya. that's well known.
Will they get a reprieve at some stage.?
Lesson should be well learned by now.

hamstring (Limerick) - Posts: 314 - 24/10/2020 20:38:43    2300945

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Who is going to mark Tony Kelly I wonder.

Patchin (Clare) - Posts: 16 - 24/10/2020 23:20:55    2301009

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Replying To hamstring:  "Ya. that's well known.
Will they get a reprieve at some stage.?
Lesson should be well learned by now."
They definitely will get a reprieve. Id say they are both in with a great chance of making tbe panel next year. Murphy is a particular loss but Ryan is a very good hurler aswell. Both deserved what they got aswell might I add but its done and dusted now. No hard feelings. All just business.
Could be a big game in the Banner today.? Its set up. They have good hurlers all over but its not a settled team.

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1366 - 25/10/2020 07:13:29    2301044

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Replying To bloodyban:  "They definitely will get a reprieve. Id say they are both in with a great chance of making tbe panel next year. Murphy is a particular loss but Ryan is a very good hurler aswell. Both deserved what they got aswell might I add but its done and dusted now. No hard feelings. All just business.
Could be a big game in the Banner today.? Its set up. They have good hurlers all over but its not a settled team."
I'd be surprised if the team selected by clare starts

daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 495 - 25/10/2020 09:37:36    2301061

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To many soft frees conceded and limerick way to nice..also a few of the limerick boys ness a bollocking,very casual..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 1154 - 25/10/2020 16:37:05    2301209

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "To many soft frees conceded and limerick way to nice..also a few of the limerick boys ness a bollocking,very casual.."
Some silly frees and passes alright and work to be done but we were a good bit better than
Clare and sure on the bright side 2 leagues in 2 days

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1113 - 25/10/2020 18:15:37    2301268

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Ya breezy I'll agree a good bit better in 2 nd half..think our backs looke very shaky against a very limited Clare team..possible look at one or two of the back replacements not taken...the tipp forwards will be better than Clare..thought the forwards got to be sharper as match went on..I know it was first day out and I accept that..one other thing,I feel limerick are still to nice..even the Clare boys were prepared to take a couple of yellows and let some of the limerick boys know they were around..I also want to see goal chances created.

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 1154 - 25/10/2020 18:54:40    2301293

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bigger tests await......clare are a very average side. we'll know where we stand after the tipp match.

munsterchamps (Limerick) - Posts: 896 - 25/10/2020 20:58:22    2301373

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Great win eventually today after a very sloppy first half. Tony Kelly had a great game but we handed it to him. We probably handed him an All Star today.

As I previously said I'm seriously worried about our back 6 against Tipps ability. Amazingly, Sean Finn was totally out of it today so it was obviously a Clare tactic to play Barry Nash's corner. I thought Nash (of whom I'm a big fan) was out of sorts which isn't surprising considering he had two weeks to prepare for playing championship corner back. Very difficult task.

Kiely must have had pretty harsh words at half time. There was a big improvement all round. Hego was immense and he destroyed Clare on his own.

I know the game was almost over when Flanagan came on but I did feel he made a huge physical impact.

I would rate the players as follows

Nicki 7 - very little to do. Goal was not his fault.
Sean 5 - didn't see him at all. So was hard to rate
Dan 6 - didn't do much wrong but it will take a while to settle into this specialist position.
Nash 5 - made a few errors and looked uncomfortable to me at corner back.
Byrnes 5 - got into it a bit more when we took a good lead. Otherwise was sloppy
Hannon 8 - Was the only one from 2-9 that took the game on and played a captains role
O'Laughlin 6 - I was expecting a lot more from Paddy. Didn't do much wrong but didn't shine.
WOD 5 - Maybe McInnerney and himself nullified each other but neither of them were in the game
Cian 7 - he was the best of our mid field but not his usual dominant self.
Hego 10 - Was excellent throughout. He was our best man in the first half and controlled the 2nd.
Kyle 6.5 - very average first half. Improved a lot in the second
Tom 6 - poor first 20 min despite some scores. Getting 6 for taking the the scores well.
Casey 7 - all three full forward line did well but lack of goals a bit worrying.
Gillane 7 - as above
Mulcahy - as above
DOD not enough action to rate
Reidy not enough action to rate
Boylan not enough action at rate
Flanagan 8 looked dangerous and set up one of his trade Mark passes to split Clare defence
Pat Ryan 7.5 looked lively and did well.

Seeking_silver (Limerick) - Posts: 294 - 25/10/2020 21:09:00    2301382

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Replying To Seeking_silver:  "Great win eventually today after a very sloppy first half. Tony Kelly had a great game but we handed it to him. We probably handed him an All Star today.

As I previously said I'm seriously worried about our back 6 against Tipps ability. Amazingly, Sean Finn was totally out of it today so it was obviously a Clare tactic to play Barry Nash's corner. I thought Nash (of whom I'm a big fan) was out of sorts which isn't surprising considering he had two weeks to prepare for playing championship corner back. Very difficult task.

Kiely must have had pretty harsh words at half time. There was a big improvement all round. Hego was immense and he destroyed Clare on his own.

I know the game was almost over when Flanagan came on but I did feel he made a huge physical impact.

I would rate the players as follows

Nicki 7 - very little to do. Goal was not his fault.
Sean 5 - didn't see him at all. So was hard to rate
Dan 6 - didn't do much wrong but it will take a while to settle into this specialist position.
Nash 5 - made a few errors and looked uncomfortable to me at corner back.
Byrnes 5 - got into it a bit more when we took a good lead. Otherwise was sloppy
Hannon 8 - Was the only one from 2-9 that took the game on and played a captains role
O'Laughlin 6 - I was expecting a lot more from Paddy. Didn't do much wrong but didn't shine.
WOD 5 - Maybe McInnerney and himself nullified each other but neither of them were in the game
Cian 7 - he was the best of our mid field but not his usual dominant self.
Hego 10 - Was excellent throughout. He was our best man in the first half and controlled the 2nd.
Kyle 6.5 - very average first half. Improved a lot in the second
Tom 6 - poor first 20 min despite some scores. Getting 6 for taking the the scores well.
Casey 7 - all three full forward line did well but lack of goals a bit worrying.
Gillane 7 - as above
Mulcahy - as above
DOD not enough action to rate
Reidy not enough action to rate
Boylan not enough action at rate
Flanagan 8 looked dangerous and set up one of his trade Mark passes to split Clare defence
Pat Ryan 7.5 looked lively and did well."
Very good analysis of the game but in fairness to Nash he was covering a position where we are short on options through injuries and that game will stand to himself and Dan Morrissey. I agree with you the lack of goals is a concern that is something for management and players to work on. Delighted to see Hegarty back to his best if there is 1 man I have seen to curb Padraig Maher influence in a game it's him and we will need more of the same from him next week.

It was a depleted Clare team I know but we still comfortably enough for a finish with us not at our best, it was a good game to knock off the cobwebs looking forward to next week already.

Oh yes not forgetting well done to the lads too on regaining their league title.

DUALSUPPORT (Limerick) - Posts: 791 - 25/10/2020 21:34:55    2301395

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Agree with a lot of what is said previously.
To be honest from today's display I don't like both Morrissey and Nash playing out of position. Sean Finn cannot be the only one with proper full backline experience if at all possible. As said before Nash in particular was completely out of sorts. Not his fault it's just a huge ask on short notice. I know there are serious injuries but if we can at all get Condon or Costello in I think it would settle everyone down. Such a pity that either were unavailable for even 15mins game time. If Duggan and Conlon were there, there could have been way more goals conceeded.

I do think the half backline were very unsettled too which was surprising. Perhaps it had to do with them having it in their heads to try and help out the full backline more due to the inexperience there. The trio were not a cohesive unit. Aside from Hannon, individually the other 2 were not dominant.
If we had cover you would be wanting Kiely to put Morrissey or Nash in there. Because of the injury situation no one was under pressure of getting replaced in the half backline and it showed. I don't think O'Loughlin or Byrnes would be first choice after today's display. It just depends if we can get anyone back from injury. If this was a league I think Kiely would definitely have given Jerome Boylan a shot at a couple of games to see how he'd fair. Tipp is not a time to suddenly fire him in now.
On a positive note Hegarty was sublime.36points can't be ignored. The subs made a good impact and they looked sharp. If we're going to get into the main final we need to go through the front door. Lessons I'm sure will be learned from today.

Mads (Limerick) - Posts: 220 - 25/10/2020 23:29:37    2301437

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Who needs goals if you are banging over 30 odd points from all over the pitch. Teams are gonna need to try stop that which will mean pushing out in a way Clare didn't yesterday and when they try that the goals will come

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1113 - 26/10/2020 09:42:01    2301486

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Replying To Seeking_silver:  "Great win eventually today after a very sloppy first half. Tony Kelly had a great game but we handed it to him. We probably handed him an All Star today.

As I previously said I'm seriously worried about our back 6 against Tipps ability. Amazingly, Sean Finn was totally out of it today so it was obviously a Clare tactic to play Barry Nash's corner. I thought Nash (of whom I'm a big fan) was out of sorts which isn't surprising considering he had two weeks to prepare for playing championship corner back. Very difficult task.

Kiely must have had pretty harsh words at half time. There was a big improvement all round. Hego was immense and he destroyed Clare on his own.

I know the game was almost over when Flanagan came on but I did feel he made a huge physical impact.

I would rate the players as follows

Nicki 7 - very little to do. Goal was not his fault.
Sean 5 - didn't see him at all. So was hard to rate
Dan 6 - didn't do much wrong but it will take a while to settle into this specialist position.
Nash 5 - made a few errors and looked uncomfortable to me at corner back.
Byrnes 5 - got into it a bit more when we took a good lead. Otherwise was sloppy
Hannon 8 - Was the only one from 2-9 that took the game on and played a captains role
O'Laughlin 6 - I was expecting a lot more from Paddy. Didn't do much wrong but didn't shine.
WOD 5 - Maybe McInnerney and himself nullified each other but neither of them were in the game
Cian 7 - he was the best of our mid field but not his usual dominant self.
Hego 10 - Was excellent throughout. He was our best man in the first half and controlled the 2nd.
Kyle 6.5 - very average first half. Improved a lot in the second
Tom 6 - poor first 20 min despite some scores. Getting 6 for taking the the scores well.
Casey 7 - all three full forward line did well but lack of goals a bit worrying.
Gillane 7 - as above
Mulcahy - as above
DOD not enough action to rate
Reidy not enough action to rate
Boylan not enough action at rate
Flanagan 8 looked dangerous and set up one of his trade Mark passes to split Clare defence
Pat Ryan 7.5 looked lively and did well."
You give Flanagan an 8 for a 3 and 5 min cameo but Tom Morrissey a 6 and(1 point is a bonus for scoring 4 points)..haha. Give this man a job in a national paper.

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1366 - 26/10/2020 11:53:54    2301556

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Any word on Aaron Costello? I presume he's injured because on form he would be a shoo-in for one of the corner back slots this year. Dan and Nash are both excellent hurlers but they are occupying specialist positions with very little experience of playing those roles. If you reflect on how so much of Limerick's gameplan is based on getting Gillane isolated in the full-forward position while being marked by a non-specialist full-back, you realise how vital it is for inter-county teams to have an experienced number 3 in that area of the pitch. Finn (or Richie, when he's back to match fitness level) could play there as they have done so in the recent past, but Costello is the one player of those on the sidelines that we really need to be fit to face the Premier.
The Banner (the astonishing Tony Kelly apart)
were pretty blunt up front yesterday but Tipp forwards are sure to be sharp as switchblades next Sunday. We have been warned!

GerO.Racle (Limerick) - Posts: 38 - 26/10/2020 13:23:53    2301595

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What happens to the losers of next Sunday's game.?
Somebody saying elsewhere that a loss and we are out as we'll have got our 2 games.
Doubt if they are correct on that.?

hamstring (Limerick) - Posts: 314 - 26/10/2020 13:28:58    2301598

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Replying To bloodyban:  "You give Flanagan an 8 for a 3 and 5 min cameo but Tom Morrissey a 6 and(1 point is a bonus for scoring 4 points)..haha. Give this man a job in a national paper."
I gave these ratings without seeing the match back and before the Sunday game. They were simply based on observations while watching the game without the benefit of being there. I thought Tom (among others) was sloppy enough at times. It was this sloppyness that kept clare in the game. I'm being harsh but so will Tipp next week and that's where I'm coming from.

Seeking_silver (Limerick) - Posts: 294 - 26/10/2020 13:36:27    2301603

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