Carlow Forum

New proposal?

(Oldest Posts First)

Well, what do we all think of the idea of a seperate comp for div 4 teams after the provincial knock out? Surely be hard to hang onto lads or would it be a runner? We do need a more realistic competition for about 20 counties (or more!) To enter but it needs to be marketed right.

old yellar (None) - Posts: 2624 - 15/01/2016 14:55:21    1816886


A re-run of what's already been tried before old yellar. It's intention is to free up more space and time for the big boys and nothing further.

The gap in standards has increased and increased and increased ever since the league was restructured from a straight forward division one and two (early noughties or late nineties?). The old league structure preserved some form of competitiveness come championship time, with your traditionally stronger and more run of the mill counties meeting on a more frequent basis. You now have the elite shoehorned into one top end group of 8, where they'll play each other week in week out for the 3 to 4 months immediately prior to championship.

The weakest in terms of playing numbers and resources, are left to their own devises in the lower echelons, to effectively hone their skills against each other in some form of haphazard readiness against the likes of Dublin & co come the summer.

Re-exiling division 4 teams into some crappy competition no one really wants to partake in, will do nothing for these counties plight.

To me the best way of bucking the trend here, is to take a re-look at the actual league. There's a direct correlation between that competition and the championship and there's no two ways about it.

Passer_By (Carlow) - Posts: 468 - 15/01/2016 16:11:00    1816912


Looks like theres momentum gathering from the powers on high in the national gaa to try shove this through.

old yellar (None) - Posts: 2624 - 17/01/2016 08:42:12    1817087


so after all that they go back to what failed before, i think its shows the lack of regard any county outside of the big few are held in by croke park, this is cynical as it won't effect most counties so they will be happy to vote for it, you would think that the only problem lay in div 4. some of the biggest beatings were handed out to div3 teams last year, but to force 16 counties into a secondary comp would be problematic when it comes to a vote

Barrowsider (Carlow) - Posts: 1296 - 17/01/2016 20:38:35    1817246


We should swallow our pride and accept that we are not good enough for competing with the top teams. It takes alot for me to say this but this new proposal suits us down to the ground!!

Antisledge (Carlow) - Posts: 14 - 20/01/2016 13:34:04    1817939


When you say we can't compete with the top teams that's true but apart from the top 5 or 6 teams themselves no one else can either. Look at the beating Kildare took off Kerry last year. We're closer to Kildare than they are to Kerry. Would anyone suggest Kildare should be in the B championship? Of course not. So why should a handful at the very bottom be singled out like we have? How would this improve us? In my view if there's going to be a B championship it has to include all teams on Divisions 3 and 4 with the winners getting a slot in the All Ireland quarters in the year they win it. Let the top 16 sort out the other 7 slots.

Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1235 - 20/01/2016 13:59:46    1817950


Well said Onion. There needs to be a way back in. No arguing with that. Then there is scope for improvement at least.

townteam (Carlow) - Posts: 17 - 20/01/2016 15:33:14    1817988


did they county board not do something lik this for clubs a few years ago? only supported by the strongest GAA clubs in the county and was pushed through and now all grades are basically the same every year and the teams that get promoted/relegated doin the opposite the year after meaning there is no real chance of development for clubs in new grades as they have to hit the ground running, maybe this is just what the county as a whole needs, the county board are not too interested in making stronger teams by letting lesser teams adapt to a high standard on the club scene and then no one from the stronger clubs (1 on the starting 15 against Antrim) bother going in and the lads in there cannot adapt to playin the higher level

just a thought

more4me (Carlow) - Posts: 95 - 05/02/2016 21:06:29    1822742