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Replying To Donaldtrump:  "3/4 U20 finals going to extra time. And Salthill winning the other by a point. All very tight games it seems."
Corofin were very poor. Claregalway by far the better team and were 7 points up only to take their foot off the gas in the second half and Corofin eventually scored a goal from a long high ball in injury time. Claregalway came back out in extra time and completely dominated. Conor Campbell and the two corner backs were very good, kept Matthew Cooley, Conor Newell and Colin Brady very quiet. Nathan Grainger by far the best on show, roasted Ross Mahon every time he touched the ball.

galway19 (Galway) - Posts: 129 - 02/12/2019 10:55:01    2252631

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Replying To galway19:  "Corofin were very poor. Claregalway by far the better team and were 7 points up only to take their foot off the gas in the second half and Corofin eventually scored a goal from a long high ball in injury time. Claregalway came back out in extra time and completely dominated. Conor Campbell and the two corner backs were very good, kept Matthew Cooley, Conor Newell and Colin Brady very quiet. Nathan Grainger by far the best on show, roasted Ross Mahon every time he touched the ball."
Agree Claregalway very strong and don't think that team were ever beaten all the way up winning an All-Ireland feile on the way. Wouldn't agree Corofin were very poor and they did create 3 other goal chances that they didn't take,
Claregalway were the better team overall but I felt Corofin put it up to them even if they were lucky in the end to take it to extra time .
I'd say Corofin would not be happy with the defending for the goals Claregalway scored .All a bit on the sloppy side.Colin brady gone out of u20 a year or two at this stage

fairplay4ever (Galway) - Posts: 377 - 02/12/2019 11:35:39    2252643

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Replying To fairplay4ever:  "Agree Claregalway very strong and don't think that team were ever beaten all the way up winning an All-Ireland feile on the way. Wouldn't agree Corofin were very poor and they did create 3 other goal chances that they didn't take,
Claregalway were the better team overall but I felt Corofin put it up to them even if they were lucky in the end to take it to extra time .
I'd say Corofin would not be happy with the defending for the goals Claregalway scored .All a bit on the sloppy side.Colin brady gone out of u20 a year or two at this stage"
Is the Brady lad playing centre forward his brother?

galway19 (Galway) - Posts: 129 - 02/12/2019 11:52:30    2252648

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Is the A Final (Claregalway V Salthill) actually down for Duggan Park, Ballinasloe? What kind of cracked decision is that?

Seemed to be down on the Galway GAA website last night but that website seems to have a mind of its own and now only shows games up until June

https://www.galwaygaa.ie/fixtures/football-fixtures

kazoochka (Galway) - Posts: 326 - 03/12/2019 12:37:42    2252916

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Yeah the A is down for Duggan Park Ballinasloe, and the B is down for Tuam Stadium. Both at 1pm on Sun 15th.

Donaldtrump (Galway) - Posts: 141 - 03/12/2019 14:11:51    2252937

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A few points on this competition; 1) The timing is disrespectable to the players who have been involved at county or development squad level as the season has been very long and we are not seeing the best of them now in the muck. For other club players, many just drift away and are lost to our game, never to return as there is very little structured football for young club footballers beyond the minor grade. Maybe a summer long league should be considered. 2) These players constitute the future senior players and as such the competition should be one of the premium competitions in the calendar. The appetite for attractive underage football could be seen in the early part of the year in attendances at intercounty minor and U20 competitions. 3) Because of 1 above the age profile for Teams in this competition is low and the standard suffers due to playing conditions and overall fitness levels, notwithstanding the undoubted commitment of the players and coaches. As such, this feeds into clubs located in higher population locations as they can call on U17/18/19 to augment their U20 Teams. We need a robust mechanism to retain talent and this includes giving plenty of football to our players. 4) Most of these players are now caught in a pincer between Freshers/Intermediate commitments to Colleges, U20 county training and U20 Club competitions, which is difficult after a long season for some of them.

On the West Board final, Moycullen were very unlucky! McDonagh and Cox were excellent and the Team in general were well coached and worked very hard for each other. Given that Cox the elder looked injured and that they were missing both Paul Kelly and James Mcloughlin on another day they would have won the day. SK were too individual and this will not do against a good Claregalway outfit.

Easthigh (Galway) - Posts: 4 - 03/12/2019 16:34:58    2252970

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Replying To Easthigh:  "A few points on this competition; 1) The timing is disrespectable to the players who have been involved at county or development squad level as the season has been very long and we are not seeing the best of them now in the muck. For other club players, many just drift away and are lost to our game, never to return as there is very little structured football for young club footballers beyond the minor grade. Maybe a summer long league should be considered. 2) These players constitute the future senior players and as such the competition should be one of the premium competitions in the calendar. The appetite for attractive underage football could be seen in the early part of the year in attendances at intercounty minor and U20 competitions. 3) Because of 1 above the age profile for Teams in this competition is low and the standard suffers due to playing conditions and overall fitness levels, notwithstanding the undoubted commitment of the players and coaches. As such, this feeds into clubs located in higher population locations as they can call on U17/18/19 to augment their U20 Teams. We need a robust mechanism to retain talent and this includes giving plenty of football to our players. 4) Most of these players are now caught in a pincer between Freshers/Intermediate commitments to Colleges, U20 county training and U20 Club competitions, which is difficult after a long season for some of them.

On the West Board final, Moycullen were very unlucky! McDonagh and Cox were excellent and the Team in general were well coached and worked very hard for each other. Given that Cox the elder looked injured and that they were missing both Paul Kelly and James Mcloughlin on another day they would have won the day. SK were too individual and this will not do against a good Claregalway outfit."
Agree on a lot of this. At present its just a throwaway competition straight knockout in October/November. You could have lads on teams who are 19 or 20 too old for minor but too young yet for Senior and unless they are part of the junior team a lot of them are playing no games all year so will throw their lot in with soccer or other sports. This will get worse as the County Board are determined to change minor at club level to U17 so they can schedule Adult and U17 games on the same weekend. This will mean lads from the bigger senior clubs will find themselves out of underage football at 17 and a half and the vast majority won't be next nigh nor near their senior team and physically won't even be capable of mixing it at intermediate or junior level.

I don't see why an U20 competition couldn't be run off on a round robin basis similar to the minor competition and at the same time. If that means U17 or U18 players cant play both then so be it.

kazoochka (Galway) - Posts: 326 - 03/12/2019 17:43:20    2252987

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Replying To Donaldtrump:  "Yeah the A is down for Duggan Park Ballinasloe, and the B is down for Tuam Stadium. Both at 1pm on Sun 15th."
This is absolutely crazy. Dragging Claregalway and Salthill out to Ballinasloe? Could easily hold it in LoughGeorge or Salthill, or if it gad to be neutral Barna, Annaghdown , Athenry or anywhere that is at least vaguely close to at least one team.

kazoochka (Galway) - Posts: 326 - 03/12/2019 17:45:10    2252988

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Is there any reason why Claregalway and SK are being brought to BALLINASLOE for a county final? If Pearse Stadium is out of action surely Moycullen or Athenry would be easier access for players and supporters?

Judgejules1 (Galway) - Posts: 9 - 03/12/2019 21:03:39    2253030

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I think the gaa have made a complete balls of the minor and u 21 grades
you had two brilliant competitions that gave us fantastic games over the years
now those underage grades have been greatly Impacted and diminished
when you think about it too there was a reason why the minor was u18
and the u21 was a perfect age to see out youre underage career
now the lads playing minor are too young ie 15
then theres other lads who are have been cast aside as there too old for one grade ie 21
and then too young not ready yet for senior and may be lost to football
I really think the gaa need to look at this whole thing again

rhudson (Galway) - Posts: 1217 - 03/12/2019 21:22:54    2253039

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Replying To galway19:  "Is the Brady lad playing centre forward his brother?"
No 10 on the programme would be Colin Bradys brother and was on Galway minors this year.He appeared to have a roving role the last day as appeared all over the place

fairplay4ever (Galway) - Posts: 377 - 04/12/2019 13:06:20    2253169

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I hear that theres gonna be a u20 development league
to be run before championship
with cork Kerry and galway in a 3 team group
by god the gaa making sure no one knows about it
what they have done to the the old u21/20 grade is shocking

rhudson (Galway) - Posts: 1217 - 19/12/2019 11:26:23    2255578

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Be hard see how they run a pre championship touarement as championship starts in feb and college touarememts all on in Jan ,,but nothing would surprise me great time of year for matches Jan , feb , March ,,, at least all these young players will have the summer months free 2 Travel ,,,,::::::

Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 453 - 19/12/2019 17:03:07    2255613

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Plenty of talent on display at U20 Final in Ballinasloe, a few weeks back! CG full back line very good in first half and held on in second half. Exceptional display by CG no 11, in difficult underfoot conditions and he held his nerve for winning free kick. Surprisingly, Buckley and Waltzer, who was more in it when moved to no 11, have not made the U20 county training squad. They were both part of the NUIG Freshers All -Ireland winning Team, are on this years NUIG Intermediate Team and line out for their club Senior Teams. Moreover only 7 20 year olds have made the training squad, which could mean any of the following;1) lads are opting not to commit to the process. 2) There isn't talent in this years u20, better or equivalent to 19 or 18 year olds whom are involved.3) Selectors are sticking with minor squads from previous years to the detriment of this years crop and blooding them for next year when they are again under age. IMO at U20 level an ultra defensive system will not win through, take last years Cork side as an example.The other key component is the strength and maturity of the core of the Team and that extra year makes such a difference, far more than at U17 level. Mayo, Dublin and Cork brought a mix of football and physicality to the competition last year. with Mayo away first up, this will be an significant challenge.

Easthigh (Galway) - Posts: 4 - 26/12/2019 18:55:28    2256175

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Replying To rhudson:  "I hear that theres gonna be a u20 development league
to be run before championship
with cork Kerry and galway in a 3 team group
by god the gaa making sure no one knows about it
what they have done to the the old u21/20 grade is shocking"
Any word on that development league RHudson ?

Johnnyprophet (Galway) - Posts: 30 - 26/12/2019 19:35:39    2256176

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Replying To Johnnyprophet:  "Any word on that development league RHudson ?"
Sorry no info yet on fixtures
cant find any details online anywhere
have to play it by ear I guess
unless someone knows anyone involved u20 panel

rhudson (Galway) - Posts: 1217 - 27/12/2019 20:27:31    2256263

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JOHN KERINS CUP
Group 1
Dublin
Kildare
Laois
Meath

Group 2
Cork
Galway
Kerry
Bye

Saturday 4th January 2020 | Round 1
Group 1
Kildare v Laois
Dublin v Meath
Group 2
Kerry v Cork
Galway Bye

Saturday 11th January 2020| Round 2
Group 1
Laois v Meath
Kildare v Dublin
Group 2
Cork v Galway
Kerry Bye
Saturday 18th January 2020| Round 3
Group 1
Meath v Kildare
Dublin v Laois
Group 2
Galway v Kerry
Cork Bye

Final on Saturday 25th January 2020
1st Placed Team in each Group
Play-Off*
2nd Placed Team Group 2 v 3rd Placed Team Group 2*
*Playoff game is to give all teams three games.
Competition Format
Two Groups of four teams in each competition, exception John Kerins Cup Group 2, will only have three teams, but a playoff game will be provided to give the teams involved three games
Each group will play three ordinary rounds
Top team in each group will qualify for their respective final
Round robin games to be played home & away basis
Final to be played at a venue nominated by the committee in-charge
Play-off game in the John Kerins Cup Group 2, will be played at the home venue of the 2nd placed team in the group

There will also be two other competitions for other teams in Connacht and Ulster, Philly McGuinness and Leo Murphy Cups, again two groups in each competition.

GDL (Galway) - Posts: 438 - 27/12/2019 22:27:02    2256276

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see the following link for u20 league fixtures - http://kildaregaa.ie/u20-football-development-leagues-2020-john-kerins-cup-fixtures/

Easthigh (Galway) - Posts: 4 - 27/12/2019 23:33:31    2256283

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Replying To rhudson:  "I hear that theres gonna be a u20 development league
to be run before championship
with cork Kerry and galway in a 3 team group
by god the gaa making sure no one knows about it
what they have done to the the old u21/20 grade is shocking"
Ya correct. Galway u20s play Cork in first round of league early January. Cork at home, I think around 8th Jan.

Toman (Galway) - Posts: 571 - 28/12/2019 10:36:53    2256295

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