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Casual fans are very important actually,, id say they account for at least 50% of viewership between attendance and tv on a given day,, probably more than 50 %. Also,, I don't think there's anything particularly tactical about the keep ball game plan,, in actual fact you could probably train an u-12 team to get the hang of it pretty quickly. It is effective though,, I must admit. Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1708 - 11/12/2020 20:26:51 2321448 Link 1 |
To be fair catch. Kerry did nt get massive funding from the gaa. Kerry actually got one of the lowest fundings from Gaa. They did get a grant towards their training facility. Kerry got big income but this was due to sponsorship and foreign fundraising Not from Gaa.
CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3676 - 11/12/2020 20:29:46 2321451 Link 0 |
I have to say in this year's championship I have nt found Dubs as entertaining as before and did nt watch their second half performances that much. Now maybe that's down to the opposition or crowds I don't know. In fairness none of their fixtures got me excited beforehand but the game with Mayo does. I'm prob being unfair to Laois Meath and Cavan but thats the way I feel. When your own county is playing you ré so engrossed that you might not realise the game is poor.
CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3676 - 11/12/2020 20:37:28 2321454 Link 0 |
They may not have got it from the GAA but they always had bags of it mick. If money is the bottom line and skewing the playing field then Kerry have had an advantage for decades in that department over Dublin and many others for that matter. catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 11/12/2020 20:49:15 2321456 Link 2 |
Also catch you say munster is a hurling province. Yes while Munster hurling is special every county in munster has won the provincial title in football unlike Leinster. Also Cork joined 4th in football roll of honour. Cork have more football titles than Tyrone Donegal and Mayo.
CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3676 - 11/12/2020 20:49:36 2321457 Link 0 |
To be fair Mick Kerry got 1.25mill from the GAA last year, Dublin 2.1 mill, inclusive of that ever popular 1 mill GDF grant. That's pretty good and up there with the best of finding distribution. * Not factoring in Dublins off shore oil companies. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 11/12/2020 21:13:11 2321462 Link 1 |
Although we weren't as dominant as Dublin is right now, I do remember when Kilkenny were on their run it did get a bit boring even for Kilkenny supporters, when they were going into certain matches where you knew the result before the game was played. When Kilkenny won in 2015 there was very little excitement going into the match. This is not intended to disrespect Galway but in Kilkenny we were fairly sure we were going to win. Now during that run Tipp gave us plenty of great matches. Mayo and Kerry have stood up to the Dubs in previous years and hopefully Mayo will do it again in the final. Dublin are running through most teams and I would guess the Dublin supporters would love an exciting closely contested All Ireland. gatha (Kilkenny) - Posts: 318 - 11/12/2020 21:23:58 2321466 Link 1 |
Pre note,, I've no idea of funding stats,,, I'll defer to your knowledge,, but wasn't the kerry board reduced to collecting money outside of masses a few year ago to pay for the team holiday?
Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1708 - 11/12/2020 21:24:37 2321467 Link 1 |
TBH I did nt see figures for this year or last year yet so I will take your word for it Username.
CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3676 - 11/12/2020 21:43:37 2321471 Link 1 |
Mick , there's only 6 counties in Munster. That's another advantage Kerry have if you want to go down that road. All the other counties are predominantly hurling focused and only Cork can put up any sort of a challenge. 85 years since Tipp's last and Clare in '92. There's no fear of ye getting bet unless something goes badly amiss most years.
catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 11/12/2020 21:45:06 2321472 Link 0 |
Football is not finished per se, however it is finished in its current state, two ways to put things back on track, firstly get rid of the back door as this year's knock out championship has proven, secondly, bring in a score handicap, a previous poster said it shouldn't be a thing in a serious competition, in my view the back door shouldn't be a thing in a serious competition either, as someone who's been there done that and from a week county. supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2907 - 11/12/2020 22:07:15 2321480 Link 0 |
Sound Mick, pulled it from the 2019 GAA accounts.
TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 11/12/2020 22:46:01 2321486 Link 1 |
Ah look I'm not going to disagree catch. Can't argue with facts. Cork though have a proud football tradition also though.
CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3676 - 11/12/2020 22:48:41 2321487 Link 1 |
What team field sport at the top elite level employs a handicap in scoring? Teams need more games in their primary competition of the year. Its ridiculous that many counties could play more games in their pre season leagues than in the championship. KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3510 - 11/12/2020 22:58:49 2321489 Link 1 |
Its true, and I expect at least that tomorrow week!
realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8592 - 11/12/2020 23:09:05 2321490 Link 6 |
Not quite. https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-20335403.html TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 11/12/2020 23:22:27 2321492 Link 4 |
The Kerry team holiday cost 310k in 2019, Diramuid Connolly must have been saying mass.
TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 11/12/2020 23:31:57 2321494 Link 0 |
Yes they have a proud football tradition . but the facts are Kerry have 81 Munster titles And cork dont even have half that with 37 Munster titles , Munster is even more messed up than Leinster superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 11/12/2020 23:59:29 2321499 Link 0 |
Only get rid of the back door if you completely overhaul the competition and seasons structures. Counties need more games not far less. A score handicap doesnt work. No sport at the top level does it. There is multiple competitions across wide range of sports that have some form of backdoor where if you lose you are not knocked out. KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3510 - 12/12/2020 00:29:39 2321501 Link 0 |
This is one of the better and more factual summaries that I have read about the evolution of Dublin football from an organisational standpoint over the years, there doesn't appear to be any bias in it which is unusual for a piece on this topic. Good read in case anybody missed it: GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 12/12/2020 01:24:19 2321502 Link 11 |