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Replying To Viking66:  "We were poor enough. Set up was alot better though. Whelan made some difference at the back, he was injured the last day, he's our best player at this grade. We didn't look like conceding a goal. Lads kept carrying into traffic and getting turned over, or made bad loopy handpasses that were easy intercepted. Workrate needs to be upped, the inside forwards need to make more runs out into space, still not sure Roche is ideal at 11, although he was excellent at the frees . Its a problem this year we don't have as many forwards as we did the last 2 years. Tackling needs to improve also, as does tracking runners. Several times our lads didn't bother running after their man when he passed them. Molloy and Wickham did OK for 2 backs playing inside forwards, Cillian Byrne was maybe wasted a little at wing forward."
Molloy was playing as a third midfielder most of the game, Wickham wing-forward. Rowley was centre-forward with SImon Roche and Cillian Byrne inside initially. Byrne moved out when Cathal Parker was taken out of the game, with Luke Murphy playing at wing-forward and Wickham moving inside.
Parker was very influential and a big loss, came on having passed a HIA (the ref gave a throw ball having stopped the game for the high hit he got!!!)
Whelan was outstanding at centre-back, in his first start at any level following a cruciate injury, really impressive. ben Asple was missed at corner-back, although Furlong did well in his place. Cian O Tuama not at his best, he was on a good hurler though.
All in all, it was just enough to get second place on a slightly better score diference. -13 to Laois's -16. The biggest issue is how little goal threat the team is offering, their goalie hadn't a save to make. SImon Roche made a number of good runs, got 2 points from quick low balls from Conor O'Toole into the corner. He also made a good run and catch in the lst play, with the ref blowing up as he prepared to shoot from 30 yards, the last of many strange decisions. Luke Murphy caught two or three great balls, but his shooting was less impessive.
Our next game is 8 May. Westmeath play Carlow and the winner plays Dublin and we play the winner of that. The team could do with a game against someone in between.

wendellgee (Wexford) - Posts: 29 - 13/04/2024 17:00:51    2537673

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Wouldn't be filled with confidence regarding the knockout stage.
Laois could have won the game even though they relied heavily on their freetaker for scores.
Our biggest problem is a total lack of penetration by our inside forwards.we didn't create any goal scoring chances in 64 minutes. Strange decision by the referee to blow up full time when we were attacking and with Roche just about to pull the trigger.
Can we Improve? Hard to say. Don't know who we will be up against in the quarter final but the competition is bound to get tougher.
I thought whelan was Impressive at full back and some nice long range points from frees and play.
Wickham had a good first half scoring 3 or 4 points.
The other negative was our constant fouling. We must do better in that regard as it could well be the difference between winning or loosing.

Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 404 - 13/04/2024 17:20:06    2537678

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It really was a game low on quality, as another poster commented the amount of frees scored by Laois in comparison to their 2 from play is a fairly shocking stat. I don't want to be bashing today's referee but he seemed to blow for a free any time 2 players came together.

I wasn't at the game against Kilkenny but I saw a lot of posts criticising the management and I'm sure it was merited but from today's game it struck me how poor our pass execution was, time and again we ran into trouble so the players need to take their share of responsibility for getting the basics right.

The full back looks a promising player but after that it's thin enough on quality unfortunately.

GaeilgeDubh (Wexford) - Posts: 16 - 13/04/2024 18:03:40    2537682

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Like the seniors v Westmeath last year, maybe Laois is this un20 teams level this year.

Take Phelan out of full back and possibly Roche centre forward, I thought Laois physically dominated Wexford and we had to foul them a lot on the back of this.

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 873 - 13/04/2024 18:27:14    2537688

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Replying To wendellgee:  "Molloy was playing as a third midfielder most of the game, Wickham wing-forward. Rowley was centre-forward with SImon Roche and Cillian Byrne inside initially. Byrne moved out when Cathal Parker was taken out of the game, with Luke Murphy playing at wing-forward and Wickham moving inside.
Parker was very influential and a big loss, came on having passed a HIA (the ref gave a throw ball having stopped the game for the high hit he got!!!)
Whelan was outstanding at centre-back, in his first start at any level following a cruciate injury, really impressive. ben Asple was missed at corner-back, although Furlong did well in his place. Cian O Tuama not at his best, he was on a good hurler though.
All in all, it was just enough to get second place on a slightly better score diference. -13 to Laois's -16. The biggest issue is how little goal threat the team is offering, their goalie hadn't a save to make. SImon Roche made a number of good runs, got 2 points from quick low balls from Conor O'Toole into the corner. He also made a good run and catch in the lst play, with the ref blowing up as he prepared to shoot from 30 yards, the last of many strange decisions. Luke Murphy caught two or three great balls, but his shooting was less impessive.
Our next game is 8 May. Westmeath play Carlow and the winner plays Dublin and we play the winner of that. The team could do with a game against someone in between."
We seemed to play Moran inside after Parkers injury. Parker played well. Wickham and Molloy were lively too. Byrne and Rowley were quiet enough for 2 of our best players. Think most of our lack of goal threat was because we played very little inside or into the spaces for the inside lads to run out onto. At the same time the lads inside weren't making the runs. The players kept trying to run it through their packed midfield, got turned over, and then fouled. We are stuck for natural forwards which isn't the management's fault. Maybe Byrne and Luke Murphy could be tried inside and told to keep making the runs out to be available for a ball into space. The half forwards, forward midfielder(s), and withdrawn inside lad, Doyle today, need to make runs forwards to support them then to run in on goal. Laois did pack the area though which made it hard to create goal chances. Their lads worked harder than some of ours.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15076 - 13/04/2024 18:58:46    2537690

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Replying To Past hurler:  "Like the seniors v Westmeath last year, maybe Laois is this un20 teams level this year.

Take Phelan out of full back and possibly Roche centre forward, I thought Laois physically dominated Wexford and we had to foul them a lot on the back of this."
Our halfback line gave away alot of the frees.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15076 - 13/04/2024 19:00:06    2537691

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Is this the laois team that beat us in minor?poor match today. Would that wexford team be young enough, is there much under age again next year? As for the ref I say nothing... but whelan was told one more attack and he stepping over the free, he puck a lovely ball into Roche hand, he rounded his man 30 yard out and was about to pull the trigger when ref blew the whistle...

hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1069 - 13/04/2024 21:15:50    2537700

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Replying To hunting:  "Is this the laois team that beat us in minor?poor match today. Would that wexford team be young enough, is there much under age again next year? As for the ref I say nothing... but whelan was told one more attack and he stepping over the free, he puck a lovely ball into Roche hand, he rounded his man 30 yard out and was about to pull the trigger when ref blew the whistle..."
really poor standard today , laois no world beaters ,and unfortunately we have been weak at minor for last few years, talent is there in wexford but management needs to look out side the box at club and school hurling, academy in ferns not producing!
roche is a talent and will play senior for oulart and wexford but as a number 6
, Rowley and Luke Murphy are both fast athletes but as hurlers, they lack stick work, staying out of the gym for the winter and concentrate on the ball alley would do them wonders, was at st peters vs offally schools and like today both were out of the game,
I hear good reports on the minor boys this year

wexfordminor92 (Wexford) - Posts: 75 - 14/04/2024 11:32:50    2537734

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Replying To hunting:  "Is this the laois team that beat us in minor?poor match today. Would that wexford team be young enough, is there much under age again next year? As for the ref I say nothing... but whelan was told one more attack and he stepping over the free, he puck a lovely ball into Roche hand, he rounded his man 30 yard out and was about to pull the trigger when ref blew the whistle..."
A good few of the lads will be u20 again next year.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15076 - 14/04/2024 12:57:33    2537744

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Replying To wexfordminor92:  "really poor standard today , laois no world beaters ,and unfortunately we have been weak at minor for last few years, talent is there in wexford but management needs to look out side the box at club and school hurling, academy in ferns not producing!
roche is a talent and will play senior for oulart and wexford but as a number 6
, Rowley and Luke Murphy are both fast athletes but as hurlers, they lack stick work, staying out of the gym for the winter and concentrate on the ball alley would do them wonders, was at st peters vs offally schools and like today both were out of the game,
I hear good reports on the minor boys this year"
These minors are the product of the Academy in Ferns though?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15076 - 14/04/2024 12:59:05    2537745

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Replying To wexfordminor92:  "really poor standard today , laois no world beaters ,and unfortunately we have been weak at minor for last few years, talent is there in wexford but management needs to look out side the box at club and school hurling, academy in ferns not producing!
roche is a talent and will play senior for oulart and wexford but as a number 6
, Rowley and Luke Murphy are both fast athletes but as hurlers, they lack stick work, staying out of the gym for the winter and concentrate on the ball alley would do them wonders, was at st peters vs offally schools and like today both were out of the game,
I hear good reports on the minor boys this year"
Coaching in the schools and clubs has to get alot better also. In fairness to Harris and the CB there are loads of courses available for people to go on to improve most different aspects of coaching the modern game. We need more lads from the clubs and schools to go on them.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15076 - 14/04/2024 13:03:06    2537746

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Not saying he's a world-beater or anything and not saying at all that we should be absolving the players of blame but I don't think it says much for the U20 management team if Darragh Farrell was coming on as a sub last year and is now being completely left out of the match-day squad

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 398 - 14/04/2024 14:19:59    2537749

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "Not saying he's a world-beater or anything and not saying at all that we should be absolving the players of blame but I don't think it says much for the U20 management team if Darragh Farrell was coming on as a sub last year and is now being completely left out of the match-day squad"
Brohan and Purcell played for the u20s last year also. Brohan and Farrell are forwards. We started around 10 lads who would be viewed as backs against Laois.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15076 - 14/04/2024 14:30:42    2537750

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Replying To hunting:  "Is this the laois team that beat us in minor?poor match today. Would that wexford team be young enough, is there much under age again next year? As for the ref I say nothing... but whelan was told one more attack and he stepping over the free, he puck a lovely ball into Roche hand, he rounded his man 30 yard out and was about to pull the trigger when ref blew the whistle..."
Roche, Asple, Purcell, Byrne, Paidi Doyle, Roark, Chapman, Rowley, will all be u20 again next year. A good lot of the Laois team will be also.
Whelan, O'Tuama, Kehoe, Brohan, Farrell, Rowley, Byrne, Simon Roche, Dylan Purcell, Luke Murphy, Luke Roche, Asple, Chapman, Cian Doyle, Darby Purcell were all with the u20s last year, although Cian Doyle, Chapman and now Asple are injured this year.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15076 - 14/04/2024 14:47:37    2537752

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "Not saying he's a world-beater or anything and not saying at all that we should be absolving the players of blame but I don't think it says much for the U20 management team if Darragh Farrell was coming on as a sub last year and is now being completely left out of the match-day squad"
Ridiculous really. I'm led to believe Aidan o connor has some individual issues with Darragh Farrell dating back to when he was at minor. Aidan o connor managed him at minor and never played him in a single minute of championship. I'm not saying the chap is a world beater either, but he is definitely good enough to be on that Wexford team. It looks to myself and others I've spoken to that the management is bringing personal issues into play. Considering the impact Farrell made against Kilkenny and then to be dropped to the extended panel is absurd. The half back line apart from Whelan is one of the worst half back lines I've seen for a good few years at u20's level and to say Dylan Purcell cannot get into that is just crazy considering he was starting games last year for Wexford!!

Hurling4lifeWex (Wexford) - Posts: 1 - 14/04/2024 20:46:19    2537827

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Replying To Hurling4lifeWex:  "Ridiculous really. I'm led to believe Aidan o connor has some individual issues with Darragh Farrell dating back to when he was at minor. Aidan o connor managed him at minor and never played him in a single minute of championship. I'm not saying the chap is a world beater either, but he is definitely good enough to be on that Wexford team. It looks to myself and others I've spoken to that the management is bringing personal issues into play. Considering the impact Farrell made against Kilkenny and then to be dropped to the extended panel is absurd. The half back line apart from Whelan is one of the worst half back lines I've seen for a good few years at u20's level and to say Dylan Purcell cannot get into that is just crazy considering he was starting games last year for Wexford!!"
I don't think I've ever seen a successful side with a management team who lets these personal issues with players have an impact on team selection

You're not necessarily going to likely everyone on the team or backroom staff but that doesn't mean you let that get in the way of you working with them, I don't think Peter Schmeichel and Roy Keane ever liked each other but they never let it get in their way on the pitch

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 398 - 14/04/2024 21:47:57    2537848

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Replying To Hurling4lifeWex:  "Ridiculous really. I'm led to believe Aidan o connor has some individual issues with Darragh Farrell dating back to when he was at minor. Aidan o connor managed him at minor and never played him in a single minute of championship. I'm not saying the chap is a world beater either, but he is definitely good enough to be on that Wexford team. It looks to myself and others I've spoken to that the management is bringing personal issues into play. Considering the impact Farrell made against Kilkenny and then to be dropped to the extended panel is absurd. The half back line apart from Whelan is one of the worst half back lines I've seen for a good few years at u20's level and to say Dylan Purcell cannot get into that is just crazy considering he was starting games last year for Wexford!!"
9 of the lads who started against Galway last year are still on this years panel. And 2 more on this years panel came on against Galway. Plus Whelan missed the game injured. That's 12 lads. Only 6 of them started yesterday against Laois.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15076 - 14/04/2024 22:39:33    2537863

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Replying To Hurling4lifeWex:  "Ridiculous really. I'm led to believe Aidan o connor has some individual issues with Darragh Farrell dating back to when he was at minor. Aidan o connor managed him at minor and never played him in a single minute of championship. I'm not saying the chap is a world beater either, but he is definitely good enough to be on that Wexford team. It looks to myself and others I've spoken to that the management is bringing personal issues into play. Considering the impact Farrell made against Kilkenny and then to be dropped to the extended panel is absurd. The half back line apart from Whelan is one of the worst half back lines I've seen for a good few years at u20's level and to say Dylan Purcell cannot get into that is just crazy considering he was starting games last year for Wexford!!"
And how well have these lads trained? How did they perform in challenge games? How have they trained in the last couple of weeks?

Easy to pick out names and this fella done this and that.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1457 - 15/04/2024 08:04:39    2537885

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Genuinely think we have good enough hurlers in that U20 team to be challenging for Leinster,infact im sure of it!!! Most of this team was beat by Laois at minor with a last minute goal,and a drawn game today which could really have went anyway!!! The thing that hurts me the most about this is how bad we are tactically on the line!!! Its actually frightening how far we are behind!!! It was the same at minor!!! I seen Derek McGrath on the line with Laois yesterday and I'd say he played a huge part as he did with the minor team with Laois as regards set ups!!!! We let Laois do as the pleased and made it very difficult for ourselves to impose any sort of play on them!!! We let them have the short puck out to build there running game,nobody layed a glove on them till nearly half way!!! Also I didnt see any forward track a man back making runs off the shoulder!!! It was fairly pathetic to be honest in our own back yard!!! When we had to tackle we couldn't,it looked terrible!!! I'd have to question management big time!!!as regards the team everyone will have an issue with selection but that wouldn't bother me that much,it's the application of the players!!! Looks very disjointed to me!!feel sorry for those players if they are been let down by management!!! What a waste!!!

theboys (Wexford) - Posts: 253 - 15/04/2024 08:11:37    2537889

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Replying To Viking66:  "9 of the lads who started against Galway last year are still on this years panel. And 2 more on this years panel came on against Galway. Plus Whelan missed the game injured. That's 12 lads. Only 6 of them started yesterday against Laois."
That say a lot doesn't it. It was a shame Rory Jacob wasn't give the chance. Anyway good luck to the lads the next day, I say getting to a semi final is probably the best we can hope for at present.

hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1069 - 15/04/2024 09:16:36    2537901

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