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Wexford Hurling thread 2024

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Replying To tearintom:  "One thing I do think is I'm not sure we are getting things right in terms of the gap between minor and u20.

To me even physically it looks like other teams have passed us by having watched both our footballers and hurlers at u20 this year."
s and c conditioning with the county academies is no more than propaganda to the public, twitter images pretending to have a plan in place during the winter every week, the conditioning of our boys at both squads u20 speaks for its self, but in saying that if the boys are really serious at u20 they should be working on their conditioning at home

wexfordminor92 (Wexford) - Posts: 75 - 15/04/2024 12:44:20    2538016

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Replying To tearintom:  "One thing I do think is I'm not sure we are getting things right in terms of the gap between minor and u20.

To me even physically it looks like other teams have passed us by having watched both our footballers and hurlers at u20 this year."
s and c conditioning with the county academies is no more than propaganda to the public, twitter images pretending to have a plan in place during the winter every week, the conditioning of our boys at both squads u20 speaks for its self, but in saying that if the boys are really serious at u20 they should be working on their conditioning at home

wexfordminor92 (Wexford) - Posts: 75 - 15/04/2024 12:44:30    2538017

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Replying To Yellowhelmet:  "Agreed. Others were approached to express an interest in the u-20 Job but declined to apply.

Performances just not up to scratch so far."
not up to scratch, why are our academies not producing players at u20 level, most of these boys in ferns since they were 13years old and what is really disappointing is that u20 is the pick of 3 years minor

wexfordminor92 (Wexford) - Posts: 75 - 15/04/2024 12:50:58    2538020

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "But our u20 hurlers were very competitive the last 2 years, things aren't right there this year so far for whatever reason, the team might not be of the same quality as those 2 teams but I think they should be doing better with the players available. U20 football is a tricker one, I suppose another factor there is dual players are still a thing at u17, 3 years ago at minor 2 of the standout players were Eoin Whelan and Darby Purcell and I know a few of the other players on the u20 hurling panel and very decent footballers."
From this year onwards, and starting with the u14s and working upwards as the next 3 years pass, there are no dual players at intercounty level. I think this is a small but sensible change.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15078 - 15/04/2024 12:51:56    2538021

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Hopefully there's a change but as things stand on April 27th Minors play Kilkenny at home at 2 and Seniors are playing in Belfast at 3."
Seen that. Will have to watch the minors on clubber in Belfast which isn't ideal

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15078 - 15/04/2024 12:53:49    2538022

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Replying To wexfordminor92:  "not up to scratch, why are our academies not producing players at u20 level, most of these boys in ferns since they were 13years old and what is really disappointing is that u20 is the pick of 3 years minor"
While the u20s have been very disappointing so far its pretty obvious there's an agenda behind your posts.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 15/04/2024 12:57:26    2538023

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Replying To wexfordminor92:  "s and c conditioning with the county academies is no more than propaganda to the public, twitter images pretending to have a plan in place during the winter every week, the conditioning of our boys at both squads u20 speaks for its self, but in saying that if the boys are really serious at u20 they should be working on their conditioning at home"
Our u14s and u15s only get together once a week apparently. Our u16s were the same though I think this changed this year. Minors and u20s don't get together often enough to do collective gym work 3 times a week as far as I know. So, and this is a pure guess, I imagine the lads get given their gym and nutrition programs and are expected to follow them. Not sure any more than that can be done really.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15078 - 15/04/2024 12:57:51    2538024

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Replying To Viking66:  "Agreed that's been a problem here for years. There's not really a gym culture here among our young people for some reason. As regards the hurlers apart from the full back line the majority of the u20s will still be u20 next year also though."
Maybe I'm naive but I would have taught there's a massive gym culture among young people now compared to previous generations.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 15/04/2024 12:58:47    2538026

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Was at the u20 match on Saturday and I don't understand all the negative comments towards the players and management? Wexford did very well in first half and thought they're work rate was very good and was a huge improvement from the Kilkenny game. They got unlucky in 2nd half and especially with the ref too, if a Wexford lad touched a Laois man it was a free! Looking forward to the quarter final in 3 weeks I've no doubt they will win I really hope there'll be a big crowd in at it they need every bit of support.

Wexforduser89 (Wexford) - Posts: 16 - 15/04/2024 13:01:24    2538028

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Replying To Viking66:  "But you will find out that Damiens aunts brother in law might work in the village stores in Crossabeg...."
What really brought this home to me was coming back home from Callan in January after the Walsh Cup game we had Leicester and Leinster in the champions cup on Newstalk in the car and knew exactly what was going on, I remember last year I wasn't up in Limerick for the league game and I had to switch off SE radio after 5 or 10 mins out of pure frustration, was happy enough to check the score on Twitter and watch whatever game was on TV.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 15/04/2024 13:04:33    2538032

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Replying To wexfordminor92:  "not up to scratch, why are our academies not producing players at u20 level, most of these boys in ferns since they were 13years old and what is really disappointing is that u20 is the pick of 3 years minor"
https://wexfordgaa.ie/wexford-gaa-talent-academy-programme-root-branch-review-survey/

Most of the current players weren't involved at u13 after the findings of this review were implemented in 2018/19. Covid messed up things further as regards the current crop.

https://wexfordgaa.ie/coaching/modelacadmies/

The academy system has worked well for Limerick, who started their process after their review following their heavy AIF defeat in 2007.
If Academy style underage development wasn't the way forward then why have Kilkenny just launched a similar set up to the one Ray Harris has overseen?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15078 - 15/04/2024 13:11:00    2538036

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Replying To Viking66:  "Coaching in the schools and clubs has to get alot better also. In fairness to Harris and the CB there are loads of courses available for people to go on to improve most different aspects of coaching the modern game. We need more lads from the clubs and schools to go on them."
I agree that yes coaching at both school and club needs to improve, but there is no fairness to either Harris or the county board, we need a lot more than sitting in an office organising courses, we need passion from the coaches in wexford park and a serious connection between them and the clubs and schools, are they gone stale???
with all the money gone into coaching why are we not reaping the rewards at least at u20 level,
the 3 in a row u21 is fast becoming just a memory, i don't mind minor level as the boys are still developing as 16 and 17year olds but we have to be consistency competitive at u20

wexfordminor92 (Wexford) - Posts: 75 - 15/04/2024 13:15:07    2538042

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Replying To Viking66:  "https://wexfordgaa.ie/wexford-gaa-talent-academy-programme-root-branch-review-survey/

Most of the current players weren't involved at u13 after the findings of this review were implemented in 2018/19. Covid messed up things further as regards the current crop.

https://wexfordgaa.ie/coaching/modelacadmies/

The academy system has worked well for Limerick, who started their process after their review following their heavy AIF defeat in 2007.
If Academy style underage development wasn't the way forward then why have Kilkenny just launched a similar set up to the one Ray Harris has overseen?"
As I said its obvious that poster has a few axes to grind.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 15/04/2024 13:15:26    2538043

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Maybe I'm naive but I would have taught there's a massive gym culture among young people now compared to previous generations."
Not really in Wexford GAA. Yes there are lads who go to gyms regularly, but the vast majority of club players don't. I know some lads who have been on the Senior panel the last few years who never set foot in a gym before they were called up. And being as I don't know that many I'm sure there are plenty more like them also.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15078 - 15/04/2024 13:18:38    2538044

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Replying To Wexforduser89:  "Was at the u20 match on Saturday and I don't understand all the negative comments towards the players and management? Wexford did very well in first half and thought they're work rate was very good and was a huge improvement from the Kilkenny game. They got unlucky in 2nd half and especially with the ref too, if a Wexford lad touched a Laois man it was a free! Looking forward to the quarter final in 3 weeks I've no doubt they will win I really hope there'll be a big crowd in at it they need every bit of support."
The workrate Saturday was definitely better than against Kilkenny. Think most posters have said that already. Set up was also better. Still some selection issues but that's up to the management. At the end of the day they will be judged on results so its up to them to get the optimum tactical set up in place to achieve them. It's also up to them to get our best 15 players at that age group out on that pitch and performing to their very best level. No comment about the ref.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15078 - 15/04/2024 13:24:24    2538047

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Replying To Viking66:  "Our u14s and u15s only get together once a week apparently. Our u16s were the same though I think this changed this year. Minors and u20s don't get together often enough to do collective gym work 3 times a week as far as I know. So, and this is a pure guess, I imagine the lads get given their gym and nutrition programs and are expected to follow them. Not sure any more than that can be done really."
My young lad is involved with the 14s. They train once a week on sat mornings in ferns and have a gym session on Wednesdays in the Peter's. He trains with me twice a week in the gym as well, hard to get them to eat enough at that age though!

ChinCanHurl (Wexford) - Posts: 300 - 15/04/2024 13:30:15    2538050

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Replying To Viking66:  "https://wexfordgaa.ie/wexford-gaa-talent-academy-programme-root-branch-review-survey/

Most of the current players weren't involved at u13 after the findings of this review were implemented in 2018/19. Covid messed up things further as regards the current crop.

https://wexfordgaa.ie/coaching/modelacadmies/

The academy system has worked well for Limerick, who started their process after their review following their heavy AIF defeat in 2007.
If Academy style underage development wasn't the way forward then why have Kilkenny just launched a similar set up to the one Ray Harris has overseen?"
it's one thing talking the talk but it's another thing walking the walk, what results have we got in wexford for all our reports and plans?
kilkenny may have launched a similar plan but thety will add passion and make it a success,
if anything kilkenny will look to both clare and limerick
not hitting at you viking or ray Harris, but we should not accept mediocrity in wexford, don't just put it on paper but make it happen, if not get some else who can??

wexfordminor92 (Wexford) - Posts: 75 - 15/04/2024 13:36:02    2538053

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Johnny Murphy the ref for Sunday - don't think I'll ever forget the league game in Croke park right before Covid something like 50 frees between the two sides.

OpenStandWall (Wexford) - Posts: 208 - 15/04/2024 13:38:53    2538056

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Replying To Viking66:  "https://wexfordgaa.ie/wexford-gaa-talent-academy-programme-root-branch-review-survey/

Most of the current players weren't involved at u13 after the findings of this review were implemented in 2018/19. Covid messed up things further as regards the current crop.

https://wexfordgaa.ie/coaching/modelacadmies/

The academy system has worked well for Limerick, who started their process after their review following their heavy AIF defeat in 2007.
If Academy style underage development wasn't the way forward then why have Kilkenny just launched a similar set up to the one Ray Harris has overseen?"
academy is the way forward but has to be done and implemented professionally, just look at clare and limerick, and kilkenny finally waking up to the fact,
without their academy and schools would leinster and irish rughy be so strong ?
ray Harris can have all the plans on paper but they have to become real in ferns, that is just not happening on a consistent basis unfortunately for wexford

wexfordminor92 (Wexford) - Posts: 75 - 15/04/2024 13:46:36    2538061

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Replying To Viking66:  "https://wexfordgaa.ie/wexford-gaa-talent-academy-programme-root-branch-review-survey/

Most of the current players weren't involved at u13 after the findings of this review were implemented in 2018/19. Covid messed up things further as regards the current crop.

https://wexfordgaa.ie/coaching/modelacadmies/

The academy system has worked well for Limerick, who started their process after their review following their heavy AIF defeat in 2007.
If Academy style underage development wasn't the way forward then why have Kilkenny just launched a similar set up to the one Ray Harris has overseen?"
viking, please explain why is current academy system is not working for wexford

wexfordminor92 (Wexford) - Posts: 75 - 15/04/2024 13:48:13    2538062

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