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Wexford Hurling thread 2024

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Replying To Jedobi:  "100 pages on this forum and not one going to make Wexford any better as a hurly county. Maybe should follow Kilkenny's lead, basically no forum but 36 All Ireland's and the only Leinster county with a really chance of winning All Ireland, action sometimes counts than words. Probably get my head ripped off for this post, but feels like we going round in circles, with no sign of everything improving."
Kilkenny have a very busy forum of their own. This is only a forum its not going to produce any talented hurlers;-)

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15367 - 20/04/2024 21:37:41    2539386

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Replying To wexfordwin:  "Was in Parnell earlier and would really encourage some people on here and on Facebook to make an effort to attend games before commenting. As someone who's based in Dublin I wasn't surprised that it was close. I mentioned last year how I was shocked at what I heard about what Wexford clubs were doing and how clubs in Dublin would be doing way more in both hurling and football. Obviously with huge numbers in some clubs. Kilmacud are bringing 600 kids to Wexford Park tomorrow and playing games in clubs all over Wexford in the morning. I suggest if they are at your club you go watch the games and see how your club matches up against Crokes at under 10/12/14. Are the Wexford clubs bringing 100s of kids to games tomorrow?

In terms of the match, Wexfords attacking play was poor but some of the backs were excellent. Dublin play a system which is similar to their seniors and 20s. Tomorrow will be close I think and the bookies odds are crazy."
Some clubs in Wexford wouldn't even have 600 members never mind 600 kids! They'll be plenty of chaps at the game tomorrow picking around a ball at HT, I'm not worried about that. Young lads in the county are sports mad especially about hurling. Regarding tomorrow, look it's a toss of a coin. League means absolutely nothing which we've seen in a few games already in the football championship. Heart says Wexford but my head says it's perfectly set up for a Dublin ambush.

Heartandhand96 (Wexford) - Posts: 21 - 20/04/2024 21:41:02    2539387

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Replying To wexfordminor92:  "kevin omahony an allreland sprint champion, 6' , farmers son and strong as an oz, serious hurler but can't even make subs, sorry viking but this is rubbish

club politics or what, as one poster said, not enough oulort boys on them
sorry I forgot Harris has a plan and willie cleary/ Anthony masterson back at their day jobs"
A lad he travels with who is also on the panel also didn't make the bench. His father is a friend of mine. I don't know why either lad isn't on the team. I'm not at training and have only seen our minors once before this year.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15367 - 20/04/2024 21:51:08    2539393

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Replying To wexfordminor92:  "kevin omahony an allreland sprint champion, 6' , farmers son and strong as an oz, serious hurler but can't even make subs, sorry viking but this is rubbish

club politics or what, as one poster said, not enough oulort boys on them
sorry I forgot Harris has a plan and willie cleary/ Anthony masterson back at their day jobs"
He travels with another lad who wasnt on the bench yesterday whose father is a friend of mine. I thought our forwards weren't great as a unit today so maybe he will get a chance in the next couple of games.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15367 - 20/04/2024 21:55:13    2539396

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Replying To Heartandhand96:  "Some clubs in Wexford wouldn't even have 600 members never mind 600 kids! They'll be plenty of chaps at the game tomorrow picking around a ball at HT, I'm not worried about that. Young lads in the county are sports mad especially about hurling. Regarding tomorrow, look it's a toss of a coin. League means absolutely nothing which we've seen in a few games already in the football championship. Heart says Wexford but my head says it's perfectly set up for a Dublin ambush."
It's happened twice in a row. 3rd time lucky hopefully.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15367 - 20/04/2024 22:25:46    2539397

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Replying To countyman2022:  "Not playing."
Looking at Eoin Ryan or Devitt coming in I'd imagine.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 20/04/2024 22:48:46    2539402

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "No harriers no Martins on that minor team. Totally nuts"
Club championship isn't everything but judging on that they were 7th and 8th in u16 in 2023, Oulart beat Harriers 3-24 1-5 in a QF and Rapps beat Martins 5-20 1-11.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 20/04/2024 22:52:41    2539404

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Replying To Viking66:  "I'm questioning these very things at Board level. I think our underage coaching is chronic at club level in many clubs around the county that I've come across in the last few years. 1 training session a week at a dual club means 2 hurling training sessions a month. How anyone can seriously expect us to produce the same number of top young hurlers at u14 as counties whose lads are all getting 8 hurling training sessions a month from u8 upwards is actually unbelievable. And there have been a good few coaching sessions for club coaches delivered by top coaches that I went on and the attendance at these hasn't been amazing either. All had plenty of spaces for more lads to attend.
Our county u14s and u15s only get together once a week on the pitch. They have far more coaching at school and club level. And the way we are we are at grassroots we are actually over achieving to have minor and u20 teams in tier one competitions at all."
If you're able to spot these things, why aren't lads at county board level able to see it and change it for the better. All I ever hear is that they're going to spend a fortune on underage development and from what I'm seeing, we're going nowhere. Just very worrying for the long term.

Heartandhand96 (Wexford) - Posts: 21 - 20/04/2024 22:53:21    2539406

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Replying To Viking66:  "This team are the 1st that have come up through the grades to reach minor since Ray Harris was appointed. If in another year or 2 things aren't improving then you will be proven right. All you are proving at this stage is that you are a man with an agenda. Like you were hoping for a defeat. Hardly the passionate Wexford supporter you claim to be. If what is there isn't the right structure then what do you propose to replace it with? If you are as involved as you say you are involved with underage coaching at club level all your life you will know what I'm saying is true about the general standard of underage coaching, and how few people are getting involved these days."
I think you hit the nail on the head there Viking - its the number of people who want to be involved. I am not sure many clubs have the luxury of having to turn away people wanting to be involved in coaching. The people who do put their hand up may not be the best suited or skilled to do the job but I am not so sure many clubs have any other options.
Anyone can pull together development plans present them in a powerpoint but when it comes down to it bodies are needed on the ground to implement them.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1938 - 20/04/2024 22:54:00    2539407

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "There's an article in the times today that says a good season for Wexford is getting out of Leinster...while Dublin's ambition is an all Ireland semi final. Is this a parallel universe?"
There's alot of rubbish gone to print these days so wouldn't worry about that, just look at the nonsense coming out of national media around the split season.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 20/04/2024 22:55:50    2539408

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Replying To wexfordminor92:  "well ray Harris, sorry viking6000000 posts
what you think of that
club politics on full show, we think we are a top hurling county yet our underage a total disaster
as a passionate wexford man I take no pride in that result
heads need to roll and p45s shown before it's too late, bring back the passionate willie clearly ans offer him a package he can't refuse!!
oulart abu
no agenda unlike viking6mposts/wexfordgaa and terrinoulart
wexford deserves better from wexford park"
Cleary was never intending to stay in games development full time as far as I know, took a career break for his role with the county board, he's a primary school principal so obviously has other ambitions.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 20/04/2024 22:58:35    2539409

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Some utterly disgraceful stuff posted on this thread today, using a bunch 15-17 years olds losing by 3 points in a round robin game to peddle obvious agendas in pretty low in my opinion.

On the game itself watched it on Clubber, no getting away that we were poor for 45 mins and fairplay to the young lads for sticking to the task and finishing the game strong, from what I could see Gethings no. 4 and Jack Nolan did well and Sinnott no. 7 was very good in the last 15 mins, Paddy Quigley looks a brilliant goalkeeper was impressed with him last year too, Sean O'Brien was good on the frees, don't like lads at this age group playing a sweeper, I'm not saying play tactics from a bygone era but taught O'Brien and Rossiter had an impossible task in the full forward line, Dublin were good give them there due, always seem extremely well conditioned at this age group.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 20/04/2024 23:12:11    2539413

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Replying To Heartandhand96:  "Some clubs in Wexford wouldn't even have 600 members never mind 600 kids! They'll be plenty of chaps at the game tomorrow picking around a ball at HT, I'm not worried about that. Young lads in the county are sports mad especially about hurling. Regarding tomorrow, look it's a toss of a coin. League means absolutely nothing which we've seen in a few games already in the football championship. Heart says Wexford but my head says it's perfectly set up for a Dublin ambush."
They're bringing 100 to us this morning.

Looking forward to seeing it. We've some very good and well coached young lads at that level who've been hurling indoor all winter.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3495 - 21/04/2024 07:57:32    2539436

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Best of luck to the lads today . Hopefully big and vocal Wexford support there given the good weather . Loch Garman abu

Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 504 - 21/04/2024 07:57:36    2539437

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Replying To Heartandhand96:  "If you're able to spot these things, why aren't lads at county board level able to see it and change it for the better. All I ever hear is that they're going to spend a fortune on underage development and from what I'm seeing, we're going nowhere. Just very worrying for the long term."
Some of us have really been pushing this agenda. Last winter there was an advanced school of hurling every week for u12s. This winter it's hoped to expand this to u11s as well as u12s. Lloyd Colfer is hoping to introduce an u12 one for football. And there were many boys who kept practicing at home, the absolute most important thing, last winter because of the A.S.H., instead of leaving their hurls in the cupboard for the winter. They told me themselves. Its 3 hours a week when all the other GAA activity I'll be involved in will be meetings at various different levels. I told Lloyd I'd help out with the football coaching, and I'll help out with the u11 and u12 hurling. It's only 3 hours a week from November til February. And last winter I learnt a huge amount from the other coaches on the A.S.H. scheme.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15367 - 21/04/2024 08:03:40    2539438

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Replying To zinny:  "I think you hit the nail on the head there Viking - its the number of people who want to be involved. I am not sure many clubs have the luxury of having to turn away people wanting to be involved in coaching. The people who do put their hand up may not be the best suited or skilled to do the job but I am not so sure many clubs have any other options.
Anyone can pull together development plans present them in a powerpoint but when it comes down to it bodies are needed on the ground to implement them."
Definitely. Volunteerism is dying out in general in the modern world. If I had a tenner for every time I've heard "I haven't time" in recent years....

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15367 - 21/04/2024 08:05:03    2539439

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Some utterly disgraceful stuff posted on this thread today, using a bunch 15-17 years olds losing by 3 points in a round robin game to peddle obvious agendas in pretty low in my opinion.

On the game itself watched it on Clubber, no getting away that we were poor for 45 mins and fairplay to the young lads for sticking to the task and finishing the game strong, from what I could see Gethings no. 4 and Jack Nolan did well and Sinnott no. 7 was very good in the last 15 mins, Paddy Quigley looks a brilliant goalkeeper was impressed with him last year too, Sean O'Brien was good on the frees, don't like lads at this age group playing a sweeper, I'm not saying play tactics from a bygone era but taught O'Brien and Rossiter had an impossible task in the full forward line, Dublin were good give them there due, always seem extremely well conditioned at this age group."
The Dublin sweeper was why they won so much ball around their halfback line. Our lads were outnumbered 2-1 or 3-2 and Dublin won all the rucks. Gethings is a good player but I think at times tried to do too much and got turned over or gave the ball away. One of Dublins points came directly from a handpass he gave to noone. Quigley played as well as I've seen any keeper play in a long time. His puckouts were excellent, really quick and accurate when a man found a pocket of space. Eoin Hughes was good too, he plays minor football as well. The inside forwards only scored one from play, not enough, and Jack Dunne might be better in midfield. Or wingforward.
Kilkenny played a sweeper against Galway yesterday btw.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15367 - 21/04/2024 08:12:39    2539442

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And just for everyone's info we have only 4 lads who played in the Leinster final in 2019 on our Senior squad. 2 who started and 2 of the subs who came on. 1 of those subs and 1 of those starters are starting today. Which isn't too bad considering of the Galway team that hammered us in the AISF that year and beat Kilkenny pretty handy in the AI Final there is only one lad togged out for them today.
Minor success is great, but not the be all and end all.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15367 - 21/04/2024 08:25:41    2539447

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I had a look at the U14 Hurling and Football schedule for the club.

32 games in 16 weeks this includes 4 feile games for the older half. The younger half will have Rackard League.

I'd say 90% of them are still finishing off either the soccer or rugby season, another 2 sessions a week.

So for three months 90% of them are doing at least 5 sessions a week. The highest performing ones are on the school teams, county development teams, county soccer teams, playing up a year etc. and doing two sessions/ games on some days.

Take it from the taxi driver!

WEX98 (Wexford) - Posts: 474 - 21/04/2024 08:33:06    2539448

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Replying To OpenStandWall:  "I like that team. Do think there could be one or two changes before 2pm Sunday. Maybe Cian Byrne starts?"
Don't think Cian will start, will be Casey and Rory inside with Foley floating out into a 4 man half forward line with McGovern, Chin and Dunbar. Lawlor and Hearne in midfield. Agree with others, our bench looks weak enough.

Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 375 - 21/04/2024 08:35:04    2539449

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