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Replying To cavanman47:  "It was me who posed the original question a couple of months back (before we were promoted).

And I quite simply asked: would you swap our last 3 years (i.e. since Mickey took charge) with Armagh's last 3 years?

2 ulster final appearances and one win vs. Promotion to division 1.

You've got to be deluded/bitter/crazy/on the wind-up or a bit of all 4 to pick the latter.


I remember the same posters (albeit some using different usernames) slating Terry Hyland as he steadily brought the youngsters through and brought us from Duvision 3 to Division 1. They said it was meaningless because he only won 2 or 3 ulster championship games in that time.

Now Mickey has an Ulster Championship record of Played 10, Won 7, Drew 1, Lost 2. His league form is something I'd gladly take if that's the price we pay for peaking in the summer months."
Absolutely this. Do I wish our League form to be better and be up in Division 1 and 2? Completely. But if we're doing it in Championship regularly than I can look past it. Armagh fans would swap in a heartbeat. They have 2 Ulster wins in 8 years. You think Division 1 keeps them warm at night? Not if you look at their comments on the main forum...

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 1858 - 25/04/2022 10:32:57    2412969

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "It's all about the draw in the Ulster Championship… If you swapped Armaghs draw with Cavans in the last 4/5 years we wouldn't have got near an Ulster final let alone win it…. Whenever Tyrone or Donegal are in our side of the draw we are dust…. Simple as that.. We have a chance this year to buck the trend … Let's hope we do…. It's all about been lucky with the draw.."
We beat 2 Division 1 teams and a Division 2 team from the preliminary round in 2020 buddy..

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 1858 - 25/04/2022 10:50:53    2412985

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Donegal will be the test to show us where we are.

Breffni1969 (Cavan) - Posts: 190 - 25/04/2022 11:26:46    2413000

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Replying To fredflint:  "Thinking off cavan shambles, foreverblue and their ilk on this difficult day for them. Hang in there lads, I'm sure we will lose a game soon enough and you can get back to doing what you do best and what makes you happiest."
Lol, rent free.

Hey I think I seen some negative comments on another thread, you best get over there and have a good whinge at the poster.

Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 571 - 25/04/2022 11:57:03    2413030

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I think we shouldn't get ahead of ourselves yet a lot of football to be played yet in this championship and we haven't played much yet if we're honest because Gowna could of went up to Corrigan Park and got a result up there and that's no disrespect to Antrim a fantastic team with a great future ahead but sadly that future ain't in the Ulster championship and forget about any sort of all Ireland run. But good to see the old timers back Martin Reilly, Ciaran Brady will be massive in terms of progressing past donegal as the saying goes "you have to start spreading your wings before u take off flapping". But in terms of the Donegal if u were to ask me what to expect from the game I think we can go into the game with some hope especially with the performances from paddy lynch, the big G and co on Saturday. The defense this year also looks solid aswell, well apart from the walking disaster from Shercock and Conor Moynagh who's always liable to kick a pitch prefect outside the boot ball across his own 45 straight into the chest of a waiting Donegal player heading straight for Raymond's goal. But mickeys men look like they have been well coached well drilled and well capable of producing a performance. So I think we can go into this Ulster semi with some hope come 6 o clock on Sunday May 8th that the GAA gods give us a good draw in the Tailteann Cup. But best of luck to the lads anyway always an achievement to make it this far and would be nice to get a few more games in the most pointless competition ever created by the GAA worst than the over 40's competition that everyone cares about.

TheLordofcavanGaa (Cavan) - Posts: 15 - 25/04/2022 11:59:22    2413033

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Replying To Breffni1969:  "Donegal will be the test to show us where we are."
Donegal will be the test to show us where we are.

Breffni1969 (Cavan) - Posts: 75 - 25/04/2022 11:26:46

Looking forward to it they were patchy enough in the league and we will need a lot to go right for us but i would give us a fighting chance.

Donegal are 1/5 and Cavan 4/1.

RHF (Cavan) - Posts: 737 - 25/04/2022 12:07:46    2413037

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Replying To fredflint:  "Exhibit 1 - We beat Antrim because they are not up to much (highest winning margin of any Cavan team in Ulster in 40 years)

Exhibit 2 - Get your defence in early by claiming Donegal arent up to much either. If we win against them, see Exhibit 1. If we lose its because we are useless.

Either way Foreverblue gets to be negative and beat down on our players. What a "fan" he is."
Fredflint at least Forever Blue give an opinion. All you do is comment on what other Posters say. You don't seem to have any opinion on games yourself. Is it because you can't read a game or summarise what you see on telly!
Maybe you can't understand the commentary on TG4 because it's in Gaeilge.
Suppose the easy option is to be critical of other posters. tá tú i bpian sa pholl déarfainn nár chiceáil tú liathróid riamh i do shaol

Breffni1969 (Cavan) - Posts: 190 - 25/04/2022 12:34:27    2413052

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Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "We beat 2 Division 1 teams and a Division 2 team from the preliminary round in 2020 buddy.."
We haven't got near the Final in the last 25 years if Donegal or Tyrone are placed in our side of the draw….. no need to highlight what division any team is in as you don't think it's relevant what division any team plays in come Championship… your words.. The draw means everything…..simple

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 736 - 25/04/2022 13:02:18    2413062

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "We haven't got near the Final in the last 25 years if Donegal or Tyrone are placed in our side of the draw….. no need to highlight what division any team is in as you don't think it's relevant what division any team plays in come Championship… your words.. The draw means everything…..simple"
But we beat Donegal in 2020. Care to explain? (Go on, call it a fluke again).

As for Armagh, they didn't have Tyrone or Donegal on their side of the draw in 2019. But they had Cavan. And we beat them.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4682 - 25/04/2022 13:17:47    2413076

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "We haven't got near the Final in the last 25 years if Donegal or Tyrone are placed in our side of the draw….. no need to highlight what division any team is in as you don't think it's relevant what division any team plays in come Championship… your words.. The draw means everything…..simple"
I really don't get what you're trying to say. There are 8 other teams you can draw, and you can only beat who is on front of you. Tyrone is the only Ulster team we've drawn in the last number of years who we've failed to beat (we've not drawn Derry in Ulster in a long time). Fact is we have got to 2 Ulster finals in last 3 years, and 70 minutes away from another. And we've beat good teams in this when you look at it. 7 wins, 1 draw, and 2 losses in 4 Ulster campaigns.

Your negativity constantly astounds me. It's as if you're annoyed you've been proved a bit wrong with where we are. We're in a semi, a bit of momentum, look a different team than the League, and nothing to lose against a Donegal team who will be very wary of us. They underestimated us before. Go look on the main forum and see how they're talking about us. They see we're a threat and won't take us lightly. Yet you, a supposed supporter, is here constantly running us down. What are you ever going to be happy about? I've said it before, I feel sad for you. Are you not going to enjoy this?

I can't wait for these 2 weeks. The chat, ringing friends and family, the articles, the podcasts and so on. Isn't this what it's about, getting caught up with your county men and dreaming and debating the next few weeks? Otherwise what's the point man...

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 1858 - 25/04/2022 13:17:58    2413077

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Replying To RHF:  "Donegal will be the test to show us where we are.

Breffni1969 (Cavan) - Posts: 75 - 25/04/2022 11:26:46

Looking forward to it they were patchy enough in the league and we will need a lot to go right for us but i would give us a fighting chance.

Donegal are 1/5 and Cavan 4/1."
Those prices sound about right. Probably be 5/6 points on the handicap.
If we can cut off the supply to Mc Brearty and stop lads like Ryan Mc Hugh and Murphy running at us up the middle from deep.
They are a good side on their day and probably the best opposition that we will play this year. So it will be a good gauge to where we are .

Breffni1969 (Cavan) - Posts: 190 - 25/04/2022 13:23:15    2413079

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Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "I really don't get what you're trying to say. There are 8 other teams you can draw, and you can only beat who is on front of you. Tyrone is the only Ulster team we've drawn in the last number of years who we've failed to beat (we've not drawn Derry in Ulster in a long time). Fact is we have got to 2 Ulster finals in last 3 years, and 70 minutes away from another. And we've beat good teams in this when you look at it. 7 wins, 1 draw, and 2 losses in 4 Ulster campaigns.

Your negativity constantly astounds me. It's as if you're annoyed you've been proved a bit wrong with where we are. We're in a semi, a bit of momentum, look a different team than the League, and nothing to lose against a Donegal team who will be very wary of us. They underestimated us before. Go look on the main forum and see how they're talking about us. They see we're a threat and won't take us lightly. Yet you, a supposed supporter, is here constantly running us down. What are you ever going to be happy about? I've said it before, I feel sad for you. Are you not going to enjoy this?

I can't wait for these 2 weeks. The chat, ringing friends and family, the articles, the podcasts and so on. Isn't this what it's about, getting caught up with your county men and dreaming and debating the next few weeks? Otherwise what's the point man..."
We didn't draw Donegal

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 736 - 25/04/2022 14:12:11    2413104

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Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "I really don't get what you're trying to say. There are 8 other teams you can draw, and you can only beat who is on front of you. Tyrone is the only Ulster team we've drawn in the last number of years who we've failed to beat (we've not drawn Derry in Ulster in a long time). Fact is we have got to 2 Ulster finals in last 3 years, and 70 minutes away from another. And we've beat good teams in this when you look at it. 7 wins, 1 draw, and 2 losses in 4 Ulster campaigns.

Your negativity constantly astounds me. It's as if you're annoyed you've been proved a bit wrong with where we are. We're in a semi, a bit of momentum, look a different team than the League, and nothing to lose against a Donegal team who will be very wary of us. They underestimated us before. Go look on the main forum and see how they're talking about us. They see we're a threat and won't take us lightly. Yet you, a supposed supporter, is here constantly running us down. What are you ever going to be happy about? I've said it before, I feel sad for you. Are you not going to enjoy this?

I can't wait for these 2 weeks. The chat, ringing friends and family, the articles, the podcasts and so on. Isn't this what it's about, getting caught up with your county men and dreaming and debating the next few weeks? Otherwise what's the point man..."
I really don't get what you're trying to say. There are 8 other teams you can draw, and you can only beat who is on front of you. Tyrone is the only Ulster team we've drawn in the last number of years who we've failed to beat (we've not drawn Derry in Ulster in a long time). Fact is we have got to 2 Ulster finals in last 3 years, and 70 minutes away from another. And we've beat good teams in this when you look at it. 7 wins, 1 draw, and 2 losses in 4 Ulster campaigns.

Your negativity constantly astounds me. It's as if you're annoyed you've been proved a bit wrong with where we are. We're in a semi, a bit of momentum, look a different team than the League, and nothing to lose against a Donegal team who will be very wary of us. They underestimated us before. Go look on the main forum and see how they're talking about us. They see we're a threat and won't take us lightly. Yet you, a supposed supporter, is here constantly running us down. What are you ever going to be happy about? I've said it before, I feel sad for you. Are you not going to enjoy this?

I can't wait for these 2 weeks. The chat, ringing friends and family, the articles, the podcasts and so on. Isn't this what it's about, getting caught up with your county men and dreaming and debating the next few weeks? Otherwise what's the point man...
Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 1454 - 25/04/2022 13:17:58 24

I don't know why you bother.....

RHF (Cavan) - Posts: 737 - 25/04/2022 15:08:00    2413127

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "We didn't draw Donegal"
By the process of us winning a semi final, and them doing the same, we drew each other in the final. It's what happens in a Championship. Come on man...

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 1858 - 25/04/2022 15:19:12    2413131

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the negativity on this forum is shocking, ok div 4 was a disaster, we're out of it now. move on......this is not a div3/4 team.
I notice a few posters including myself just stopped bothering posting due to the attitude of some.
so can we move on, Cavan beat a team that were strangely being tipped as favourites by a large cohort of so called experts which I couldn't figure out. the chasm between the two teams was massive and when you seen Marty and Holla coming on and knowing kiernan was sitting the game out you started to realise that Cavan were in fact on a different level.
on to Donegal, this will be a cracker, people are saying Donegal have an axe to grind, which is true. they're looking on this game as putting cavan back in their box (a dangerous viewpoint as that can often house feelings of arrogance).
Cavan have arguably as much or more to play for. lose and they're in the little boys competition, win and they're in the Sam Maguire competition and will have proven 2020 wasn't a fluke. i think its doable but cavan will need a massive performance and a cushion going in at half time.
theres two more weeks to discuss, read and listen . enjoy it!!!!!!

theweanling (Cavan) - Posts: 414 - 25/04/2022 15:20:39    2413134

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Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "By the process of us winning a semi final, and them doing the same, we drew each other in the final. It's what happens in a Championship. Come on man..."
Just making the point we didn't draw Tyrone or Donegal early in the Championship in the last 25 years and beat them … last time we beat Tyrone was 1983 I think… don't get me wrong I'm delighted when we avoid these type of teams early…in a Final anything can happen which we proved… I am just saying you can't compare records with Armagh in recent years if they are handed a much tougher draw… If we got Donegal and they had Antrim I'm sure they would be in the next round too

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 736 - 25/04/2022 15:49:03    2413144

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Just making the point we didn't draw Tyrone or Donegal early in the Championship in the last 25 years and beat them … last time we beat Tyrone was 1983 I think… don't get me wrong I'm delighted when we avoid these type of teams early…in a Final anything can happen which we proved… I am just saying you can't compare records with Armagh in recent years if they are handed a much tougher draw… If we got Donegal and they had Antrim I'm sure they would be in the next round too"
You can only beat who you draw. Our Tyrone record is indeed brutal. But why on earth are you talking about that today? You are actually astounding

Armagh may or may not have had tougher draws, but do remember before this year, we had Donegal, Monaghan x 2 and Tyrone last 4 years. All Division 1 teams (which is a big deal to you) so is this easy or something? Or are you trying to wriggle and sort your own narrative? In 2018 Armagh got Fermanagh, 2019 Down, 2020 Derry, and 2021 Antrim. All lower division teams at that time. So what are you actually talking about? How is this much tougher than Division 1 teams 4 years on the trot? You are beyond clueless

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 1858 - 25/04/2022 16:11:00    2413154

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Replying To theweanling:  "the negativity on this forum is shocking, ok div 4 was a disaster, we're out of it now. move on......this is not a div3/4 team.
I notice a few posters including myself just stopped bothering posting due to the attitude of some.
so can we move on, Cavan beat a team that were strangely being tipped as favourites by a large cohort of so called experts which I couldn't figure out. the chasm between the two teams was massive and when you seen Marty and Holla coming on and knowing kiernan was sitting the game out you started to realise that Cavan were in fact on a different level.
on to Donegal, this will be a cracker, people are saying Donegal have an axe to grind, which is true. they're looking on this game as putting cavan back in their box (a dangerous viewpoint as that can often house feelings of arrogance).
Cavan have arguably as much or more to play for. lose and they're in the little boys competition, win and they're in the Sam Maguire competition and will have proven 2020 wasn't a fluke. i think its doable but cavan will need a massive performance and a cushion going in at half time.
theres two more weeks to discuss, read and listen . enjoy it!!!!!!"
Completely agree. I keep trying to zone out the negativity, but sometimes they have to be challenged. We do look to have a very strong panel coming. The subs and lads to come back from injury in the next few weeks is very encouraging. We should be excited for the next few weeks and building up for Donegal. I myself will drop any more replies to them, but will concentrate on the team and the build up, and not jet them take us down. Very excited for the next few weeks to discuss and read up on it. Can't wait!

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 1858 - 25/04/2022 16:15:35    2413157

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Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "You can only beat who you draw. Our Tyrone record is indeed brutal. But why on earth are you talking about that today? You are actually astounding

Armagh may or may not have had tougher draws, but do remember before this year, we had Donegal, Monaghan x 2 and Tyrone last 4 years. All Division 1 teams (which is a big deal to you) so is this easy or something? Or are you trying to wriggle and sort your own narrative? In 2018 Armagh got Fermanagh, 2019 Down, 2020 Derry, and 2021 Antrim. All lower division teams at that time. So what are you actually talking about? How is this much tougher than Division 1 teams 4 years on the trot? You are beyond clueless"
You are the clueless one or more likely deluded…. We only ever get to Ulster finals if we are in the easier side of the draw which is avoiding Donegal/Tyrone before the Final… I feel this needs to be explained to you as you are obviously a bit slow…. I doesn't matter who Armagh got in the 1st round as they still could be in the hard side of the draw in the years you name… If you don't see the point been made then you are obviously delusional

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 736 - 25/04/2022 16:45:03    2413174

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Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "I really don't get what you're trying to say. There are 8 other teams you can draw, and you can only beat who is on front of you. Tyrone is the only Ulster team we've drawn in the last number of years who we've failed to beat (we've not drawn Derry in Ulster in a long time). Fact is we have got to 2 Ulster finals in last 3 years, and 70 minutes away from another. And we've beat good teams in this when you look at it. 7 wins, 1 draw, and 2 losses in 4 Ulster campaigns.

Your negativity constantly astounds me. It's as if you're annoyed you've been proved a bit wrong with where we are. We're in a semi, a bit of momentum, look a different team than the League, and nothing to lose against a Donegal team who will be very wary of us. They underestimated us before. Go look on the main forum and see how they're talking about us. They see we're a threat and won't take us lightly. Yet you, a supposed supporter, is here constantly running us down. What are you ever going to be happy about? I've said it before, I feel sad for you. Are you not going to enjoy this?

I can't wait for these 2 weeks. The chat, ringing friends and family, the articles, the podcasts and so on. Isn't this what it's about, getting caught up with your county men and dreaming and debating the next few weeks? Otherwise what's the point man..."
Why have we nothing to lose against Donegal?

Are you suggesting we haven't a hope against them? Is that it?

NEGATIVE COMMENT ALERT. NEGATIVE COMMENT ALERT. NEGATIVE COMMENT ALERT.

Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 571 - 25/04/2022 17:01:21    2413178

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