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Replying To Cavan67:  "Its Championship time. All Senior, Under 20 and Minor teams are out this weekend. Team delivered with promotion in Division 4, but this game with Antrim in Ballymurphy is the game that the focus was on all the time. Antrim ran Cavan very close two years ago, and without a super save from Galligan with a goal chance from McCann, Antrim would have gone closer that day. They have played at a stronger standard this year in Div 3, and will be well prepared. I truly feel the game will still be in the melting pot in last ten minutes, and that Cavan's bench could be the winning of the game.

Super to see players coming back from injuries, and back to fitness, means that players will be gunning to get on the starting team for Saturday. From the League Final, its clear consistency of scoring is an issue, scoring of marks and frees particularly too, but the defence looks very solid. Very hard to predict the starting team, tight in a game like this is key, a very strong centre needed especially against Antrim's strong centre. Hoping for big games from T Galligan, James Smith and Gearóid McKiernan. Would love to see Oisín Kiernan back, Conor Moynagh to start for sure, hoping Killian Brady can stay out of crazy fouls, and show his worth. It is a very open aired pitch in Corrigan Park, and Galligan must had the frees on if its not going his way. Hope to Caoibhín O'Reilly, and Patrick Lynch upfront, they have killer talent to finish any chances, and love to see classy passes from Smith too. Be super to see Ciarán Holla Brady come of the bench with 15 minutes to go!

Love to see a great solid performance, and see Cavan not fall asleep for 5-10 minutes on the score board, but just hope Mickey's boys come out on top. Wishing all Cavan teams the best of luck this weekend!

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Who is Ted lads? Excuse my stupidity"
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Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2383 - 21/04/2022 10:53:39    2412022

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Replying To Breffni1969:  "The only place I'd play Martin Reilly Is on the edge of the square full forward.
As a defensive half forward he's too negative always playing the ball backwards.
Kick it into him. He can win ball, beat a man, take a score. Playing defensively he tends to go backward more often than forward and we have plenty to fill that roll."
Can't say I agree. We look a different team with Marty in. We struggled at time v Leitrim, and his cameo in the 2nd half had him orchestrating things a bit better, picking passes and such through. Sure, he he does play the ball backwards the odd time, but that seems to be a tactic when there is nothing on ahead. No point playing a very low percentage ball, better to recycle instead (there'd be some roaring from the fans if he lumped in a ball that was then lost). His movement into the full forward position is something he has in his locker, he's well fit to grab a goal here and there and he offers a lot like that to us. I'd be having him start in the half forwards, but let him do his roaming around and judging the game as he sees. He has that vision. But not really as a target man like you say, more running support lines to an attack

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2383 - 21/04/2022 11:02:38    2412026

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Replying To Cavan67:  "Its Championship time. All Senior, Under 20 and Minor teams are out this weekend. Team delivered with promotion in Division 4, but this game with Antrim in Ballymurphy is the game that the focus was on all the time. Antrim ran Cavan very close two years ago, and without a super save from Galligan with a goal chance from McCann, Antrim would have gone closer that day. They have played at a stronger standard this year in Div 3, and will be well prepared. I truly feel the game will still be in the melting pot in last ten minutes, and that Cavan's bench could be the winning of the game.

Super to see players coming back from injuries, and back to fitness, means that players will be gunning to get on the starting team for Saturday. From the League Final, its clear consistency of scoring is an issue, scoring of marks and frees particularly too, but the defence looks very solid. Very hard to predict the starting team, tight in a game like this is key, a very strong centre needed especially against Antrim's strong centre. Hoping for big games from T Galligan, James Smith and Gearóid McKiernan. Would love to see Oisín Kiernan back, Conor Moynagh to start for sure, hoping Killian Brady can stay out of crazy fouls, and show his worth. It is a very open aired pitch in Corrigan Park, and Galligan must had the frees on if its not going his way. Hope to Caoibhín O'Reilly, and Patrick Lynch upfront, they have killer talent to finish any chances, and love to see classy passes from Smith too. Be super to see Ciarán Holla Brady come of the bench with 15 minutes to go!

Love to see a great solid performance, and see Cavan not fall asleep for 5-10 minutes on the score board, but just hope Mickey's boys come out on top. Wishing all Cavan teams the best of luck this weekend!

PS

Who is Ted lads? Excuse my stupidity"
Would also say, that Antrim flattered a little bit too in Div 3. They won 3 out of 7 games, lost to one of the relegated teams, and overall fell away at the end of the campaign. It wasn't a great Div 3 the year, seeing as who went up and such. I'd be more scared of Antrim if they went closer than they did, which was there for them, but they didn't do enough. They're about at their own level. We've won 7 from 8, won the final, beating a fellow promoted team who'll be in Div 3 as well next year. I think our overall form is much better, although as I don't need to point out to anyone here, we can temper that a little as we never really put in a full performance. And as we all know, we went down the Leagues while having good Championship results. I still think we're better than a Div 3 or 4 team, I see us realistically as a mid Div 2 or so team seeing the experience and medals in our squad. We should have too much for Antrim, but they'll be tight to get past.

Any word on Oisin Kiernan? Is he back from the injury, heard it was a bad one, so hope it is a case that he got over it quickly and he's good for Saturday.

Word is too that Antrim have lost Ricky Johnson to go travelling. He's a huge loss for them, and might be game that likes of Paddy Lynch might be able to mix in up in a reshuffled back line. They've lost their goalie Kerr too. Our forwards must see opportunity there.

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2383 - 21/04/2022 11:20:47    2412033

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Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "Moynagh will definitely start, so you'd need to find some space for him in your team. Think we will see a few changes alright though, from the League, as we usually do when we get to Championship. Marty Reilly is now fit again, and has played for his club. Hard to leave Marty out when he is fit, he offers so much. Conor Brady fit too, so can see him playing like you say. Ciaran Holla is seemingly full training. Might not start, but might see some time for him at some stage. And can't see TED starting (I could be wrong though) but more likely to see one of the lads who started more often earlier, maybe Cormac O'Reilly. Cian Madden might get a start too, he's been getting them all league long and was decent too. It's a very tough team to call..."
I can't see Ted starting either, I'd say we could see cormac reilly starting in the full forward line, along paddy Lynch, Stephen smith seems to be in form and he could start, any word on Oisin Kieran? He's a big loss he was coming back to form.

blueman1903 (Cavan) - Posts: 882 - 21/04/2022 11:45:52    2412040

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Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "Can't say I agree. We look a different team with Marty in. We struggled at time v Leitrim, and his cameo in the 2nd half had him orchestrating things a bit better, picking passes and such through. Sure, he he does play the ball backwards the odd time, but that seems to be a tactic when there is nothing on ahead. No point playing a very low percentage ball, better to recycle instead (there'd be some roaring from the fans if he lumped in a ball that was then lost). His movement into the full forward position is something he has in his locker, he's well fit to grab a goal here and there and he offers a lot like that to us. I'd be having him start in the half forwards, but let him do his roaming around and judging the game as he sees. He has that vision. But not really as a target man like you say, more running support lines to an attack"
I feel to use him as a target man or playing off a target man is inside is more advantageous that playing as a defensive half forward. As I said he can win ball, turn, beat a man , take a score. Plus he can bring other forwards into the game with his movement .That type of player better served inside rather that around our own 45m line. It's a bit of cuteness inside the opposing 45 we need.

Breffni1969 (Cavan) - Posts: 510 - 21/04/2022 12:23:07    2412059

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Replying To blueman1903:  "I can't see Ted starting either, I'd say we could see cormac reilly starting in the full forward line, along paddy Lynch, Stephen smith seems to be in form and he could start, any word on Oisin Kieran? He's a big loss he was coming back to form."
Yeah I agree with you there. Stephen Smith preferred for the final, and he played in a couple of lovely balls, especially for the first gal. Got a point, and really should have finished that mark too. He may start alright.

I asked the same about Oisin Kiernan above, haven't heard any word. Maybe no news is good news? Normally if someone is definitely out, you'd hear about it.

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2383 - 21/04/2022 12:46:50    2412068

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Replying To Breffni1969:  "I feel to use him as a target man or playing off a target man is inside is more advantageous that playing as a defensive half forward. As I said he can win ball, turn, beat a man , take a score. Plus he can bring other forwards into the game with his movement .That type of player better served inside rather that around our own 45m line. It's a bit of cuteness inside the opposing 45 we need."
Yeah maybe that sort of way alright. Just not an out and out target man, he's not like that, and won't stay in on the FF line. He will come out the field looking to get on the ball, and we need him doing that. I don't think he's that defensive when he's in the half forwards, he always seems to me to look up and move forward, but he does put it backwards if there is nothing on (which he should do). The forwards need to help him here too btw. Maybe Lynch in form and strong, he may be fit to claim a few balls seeing as they're missing Johnson. I think we need to see him in though if fit, he gives us so much more to our all round play, and frees up other players to do their thing.

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2383 - 21/04/2022 12:50:22    2412070

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Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "Moynagh will definitely start, so you'd need to find some space for him in your team. Think we will see a few changes alright though, from the League, as we usually do when we get to Championship. Marty Reilly is now fit again, and has played for his club. Hard to leave Marty out when he is fit, he offers so much. Conor Brady fit too, so can see him playing like you say. Ciaran Holla is seemingly full training. Might not start, but might see some time for him at some stage. And can't see TED starting (I could be wrong though) but more likely to see one of the lads who started more often earlier, maybe Cormac O'Reilly. Cian Madden might get a start too, he's been getting them all league long and was decent too. It's a very tough team to call..."
Some of my team is what I would like to see myself or perhaps my hopes for Mickey's rabbits from his hat that he always has for c'ship, as much as it is a prediction as to what he exactly do.

Moynagh is a good footballer and might fit in lovely to another good county team but my own view would be that he is one of the main causes of slow build up play for us, which is the main cause of us looking poor/blunt on the attacking front.

TED is less big and energetic than some of the FF alternative options and would get less possessions than perhaps a Caomhin or a Conor Madden, but he always looks composed on the ball when he gets it and is very economical in creating a scoring opportunity for himself or a teammate when he gets it into his hands. That's why I prefer him to Caomhin, and I think Conor Madden seems to be a better impact sub than he is a starter, even for Gowna. I don't think Martin Reilly's attributes are that well suited to playing inside either. Him and Ciaran Brady have also not played enough football to start but would hopefully have enough to come on in the HF & HB lines respectively.

Conroy is indeed slow for Inter County level, but I don't think I have him in a spot where that will get exposed.

PatTheDandy (Cavan) - Posts: 356 - 22/04/2022 16:12:42    2412321

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It's a real possibility that the team that finishes this game will be more important that the one that starts it.
I expect Antrim to keep it tight amd can see it coming down to the strength of the respective benches.

I don't expect Ciaran Brady to start but he can definitely make a big impact. I'd hold Conor Madden in reserve too.

Team I'd start:

Galligan

Gunner
Faulkner
Clarke

G Smith
Moynagh
McLoughlin

J Smith
Conor Brady

Martin Reilly
Gearoid
T Galligan

S Smith
Lynch
Caoimhin

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 22/04/2022 19:06:48    2412351

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Christ a day for watching bbc but not the biased commentary. Opening comment was it was a day all about Antrim.

offtheditch (Cavan) - Posts: 157 - 23/04/2022 13:32:12    2412476

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Best of luck to the fellas here. Dry sunny day, but very strong wind so could be a game of 2 halves. We've a strong team out, so hope the boys push on

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2383 - 23/04/2022 14:01:11    2412483

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same as last night should have antrim beat home but because of all the misses they are still in it and there forwards look like they can score unlike cavan

breffnibluewhite (Cavan) - Posts: 454 - 23/04/2022 14:40:07    2412492

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Replying To breffnibluewhite:  "same as last night should have antrim beat home but because of all the misses they are still in it and there forwards look like they can score unlike cavan"
Should have these beat out the gate with the chances we've had. The wind and mistakes of ours have kept them in it. With the wind and our dominance, we should be able to put this away the 2nd half. The wind is very strong. We still need to work hard with it though. Good bench options to come on too. Disappointing on the scoreboard for all our play, but we should see this off

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2383 - 23/04/2022 14:52:32    2412493

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Easy win in the end. Had far too much for them, and looked stronger all over the field, even allowing for them going down to 14. Once we started getting the scores our overall dominance deserved, pulled away easy. Great seeing Holla and Marty back too. A good day, with still lots more to work on. Look a different team than the league when we got motoring. But just to also mention how bad they were too. A semi to look forward to now.

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2383 - 23/04/2022 15:52:48    2412502

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Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "Easy win in the end. Had far too much for them, and looked stronger all over the field, even allowing for them going down to 14. Once we started getting the scores our overall dominance deserved, pulled away easy. Great seeing Holla and Marty back too. A good day, with still lots more to work on. Look a different team than the league when we got motoring. But just to also mention how bad they were too. A semi to look forward to now."
Agree with all that but can only beat what is in front of you…. Looked miles fitter than Antrim… Attendance looked very small… stand nearly empty

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1924 - 23/04/2022 16:03:13    2412511

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Definitely an improvement on league form which is good to see. We will still have to step it up another gear to even compete with Armagh/Donegal but hopefully we can do that.

Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 575 - 23/04/2022 16:42:05    2412517

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Agree with all that but can only beat what is in front of you…. Looked miles fitter than Antrim… Attendance looked very small… stand nearly empty"
Aye the stand was nearly empty. They were only letting ones with dedicated seat numbers on their tickets in. A few of the lads I knew who got one with their season tickets just went to the terrace with their friends and such. Probably made it look worse than it was.

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2383 - 23/04/2022 17:27:11    2412525

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A very good win but nothing to get carried away with.. Antrim were woefully poor and looked far from fit… Cavan looked in great nick but this walking pace backwards passing game will be of absolutely no use when we come up against Donegal/Armagh.. Paddy Lynch looked very good but some of the Antrim defending was laughable…. The one thing to come from this for me is that Cavan should with the right attitude of course have no bother winning Div3 next year and get back to a proper level of competition.. Roll on the semifinals..

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1924 - 24/04/2022 09:41:55    2412659

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There may be one last kick in the auld horse yet good second half pity we did not score a few goals. The standard of refereeing in ulster is brutal if i was an antrim supporter i would have had some choice words for the referee at full time he gave everything to cavan and the sending off was very harsh it would have made no difference to the outcome as we should have been ten points up at half time. This follows on from the standard in the under 20 final the evening before while not as bad but i watched the game again and three of the frees scored against cavan were for minimal if not zero contact and frees were then taken from 5 to 10 metres closer to goals and although we should have been out of site at half time the ref decided the outcome in the end.

breffnibluewhite (Cavan) - Posts: 454 - 24/04/2022 10:12:29    2412668

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "A very good win but nothing to get carried away with.. Antrim were woefully poor and looked far from fit… Cavan looked in great nick but this walking pace backwards passing game will be of absolutely no use when we come up against Donegal/Armagh.. Paddy Lynch looked very good but some of the Antrim defending was laughable…. The one thing to come from this for me is that Cavan should with the right attitude of course have no bother winning Div3 next year and get back to a proper level of competition.. Roll on the semifinals.."
So you're finally agreeing we were not Division 4 standard, as we're way better than a team who challenged for Division 3 promotion? :) It was clear we were around Division 2 standard team. Mickey Harte says as much on the live coverage yesterday. We look a very different animal to the League. We look right for Championship here, which is what I hoped

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2383 - 24/04/2022 10:55:27    2412677

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