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Ha yes you're right! Cork "only" won 11 out of 12 All Irelands and merely did a 6 in a row. Ladies football must have been as dead as a dodo after that!
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 21/12/2020 12:14:52 2325041 Link 1 |
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NO way. You watch back old clips of All_irelands-a lot of so called "classic" matches were actually muck. Balls hoofed aimlessly out of defence, goalkeepers just going for distance on the kick outs, the abomination that was the open handed pass (more likely a throw). Also pulling and dragging were part and parcel of the game. I agree on points people have made about the hand pass. Lateral passing and retention of possession don't make for a great spectacle but I'd still argue that football can still make for a compelling spectacle.
avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 21/12/2020 12:22:31 2325042 Link 8 |
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Leave yourself 2 on 2 in acres of space the other end. Get killed on the break.
cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 21/12/2020 12:24:10 2325043 Link 7 |
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Just looking at the programme from Saturdays match and Dublin had a backroom team of 29 named. fantasybrown (Roscommon) - Posts: 26 - 21/12/2020 12:24:51 2325044 Link 1 |
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Just wondering, when exactly in the "old days" are referring to? Football has evolved constantly over the decades. I played inter-county in the 1980s (is that "old" enough??) and the standard in Division 4 was muck - I wouldn't want to go back there! In the previous decade, I remember Kerry scoring 9-21 in a championship game v Clare; and Clare's score of 1-9 with the biggest Kerry conceded in the championship that year. Wouldn't want to be going back there either. Looking back over the record books, in 1927 Kildare beat Kerry 0-5 to 0-3: doesn't look like much free-flowing football played there? Laois failed to score in the 1889 final - not much good forward play on show there either? People said football was dead in 1980 and 81 due to Kerry's dominance, and the 80 final was a dour affair. Skill levels today are so much better at all levels. Appreciate the beauty of what we have... football first (None) - Posts: 1259 - 21/12/2020 13:08:13 2325064 Link 1 |
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Mayo done better than any other amateur team against a professional team to be fair
Irishcelt (Wicklow) - Posts: 149 - 21/12/2020 13:24:58 2325072 Link 1 |
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Did you make that all up by yourself?
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 21/12/2020 13:54:11 2325077 Link 6 |
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Which game this year would you regard as a "compelling spectacle??" there were all snooze fests as players are not allowed to express themselves anymore. has to be to a system so that all these managers and bluffer coaches can take credit for the win- oh we had the better system in place. Very rarely you see a player trying anything random nowadays as it is not tolerated by the sideline gurus.
the creeler (Cavan) - Posts: 512 - 21/12/2020 13:58:49 2325078 Link 2 |
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How are Dublin a professional team to be fair They all are students or work jobs just like players in every other county. They have lots of coaches, just like many other counties - tipp and limerick hurlers have similar/more as do many football sides. KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3510 - 21/12/2020 14:04:31 2325080 Link 1 |
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Dublin are far from a professional team. Explain how they are near a pro team? All are in college or have full time jobs to work... KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3510 - 21/12/2020 14:55:50 2325092 Link 0 |
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Aww poor dubs getting annoyed that noone cares about the farce of a championship that only 1 team can win
Irishcelt (Wicklow) - Posts: 149 - 21/12/2020 15:24:33 2325104 Link 3 |
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Okay yeah your right there not professional atall compared to wicklow carlow leitrim etc... take your point
Irishcelt (Wicklow) - Posts: 149 - 21/12/2020 15:26:07 2325105 Link 2 |
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People threw the same lazy jibes at the Kerry "Golden Years" team - citing their arrangements with Adidas and Bendix (who remembers the infamous washing machine ads??) as evidence that money was helping them to buy all-Irelands. Despite all that has changed in Ireland over the past 40 years, begrudgery is still alive and well.
football first (None) - Posts: 1259 - 21/12/2020 15:39:27 2325113 Link 3 |
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Your right there, every ball kicked was anybody's, drop kicks, frees kicked with ball rolling along , pure muck as you say. Kerry Golden Years tape, great at the time but not so great when you look at it now. Give me today's football anytime with all it's problems.
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2012 - 21/12/2020 15:43:20 2325117 Link 1 |
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And you don't think that money was of any benefit to the Kerry team then? Kerry had talented players who probably should have won eight in a row, but easily could have been beaten by Roscommon in 1980 and that really should have won the 1982 final against Offaly. But once that crop of players got old Kerry went into a very big slump by their standards and Cork took over. That isn't happening with Dublin, the old players are getting replaced by even better and fitter ones.
republicofcloone (Leitrim) - Posts: 375 - 21/12/2020 15:50:57 2325120 Link 2 |
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Getting annoyed? Ha, we're loving it lad Oh the virus outside is frightful But the Dubs are so delightful We're not letting Sam Maguire go 6 in a row, 6 in a row, 6 in a row Don't worry, your county will get out of Munster next year. Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 21/12/2020 16:22:47 2325129 Link 7 |
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You'd imagine a limerick person would know about being next door to professional with the hurling set up they have and endless money pouring into the thing. You see the problem is just because it's not explicitly stated that this is a professional outfit people can't see past that. For example people say the GAA is an amateur organisation, so does anybody in the whole organisation gets paid?!?!? It's silly. It's not amateur and has been on the verge of professionalism for some time. Managers, administrators, coaches, physios, assistant goalkeeping coaches all get paid. So just because Dublin say they're amateur doesn't mean they are. Yes I'm sure they all have jobs or are in college but again that is being too rigid in the professionalism definition. What people mean is that the amount of money being spent on Dublin and being given to Dublin is of an amount that renders them professional. They have a professional set up, not professional players but they have access to all those professional structures which were largely funded by central gaa money! that is not Dublin's fault but that is the difference. Other counties simply do not have that luxury. the creeler (Cavan) - Posts: 512 - 21/12/2020 16:35:21 2325131 Link 1 |
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so ..ehh they're not professional but they're actually professional....hmmmm...
avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 21/12/2020 16:54:37 2325138 Link 5 |
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Every county is professional when measured against Wicklow Carlow & Leitrim.
lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 758 - 21/12/2020 16:58:23 2325139 Link 0 |
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But this is just more waffle of course. McStay, a Mayo man, stated that Mayo were just as prepared S&C wise as Dublin and have access to top class facilities and coaches. So can you pinpoint what is underpinning this "professionalism" that you keep banging on about because if you can't then you are just waffling-on trying to make a point with nothing to substantiate it. "Money" blah, blah, blah "professionalism" blah, blah, blah. It's just words.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 21/12/2020 17:00:07 2325141 Link 5 |