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Limerick against Waterford. All Ireland Hurling Final 2020

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Replying To Armchairreporter:  "Well done to Limerick. 2 All Ireland's in 3 years. It's a pity they're style of hurling is so boring....."
Boring is the word...I feel asleep watching the game. One of the worst All Ireland Finals ever.

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2193 - 14/12/2020 14:19:15    2322304

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Replying To republicofcloone:  "They coach the goalkeeper to do what exactly?"
Or what exactly does the assistant goalie coach do to help the goalie coach to coach the goalie ? What does the the goalie coach and assistant goalie coach together do to coach the goalie ? Maybe all three hold a 8 X 4 sheet of plywood in the goal to keep the ball out during training. Practicing puck outs the assistant (lowest on the totem pole) is the target for the goalie to hit and the coach keeps count of hits.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2658 - 14/12/2020 14:19:17    2322305

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Replying To Armchairreporter:  "Well done to Limerick. 2 All Ireland's in 3 years. It's a pity they're style of hurling is so boring....."
Agreed they are a brilliant team and I'm glad that there is another county other than the big 3 winning all Irelands. But yes there style of hurling this year in particular is a pure bore fest. In 18 they played excitein brand but this year it would put you asleep

Irishcelt (Wicklow) - Posts: 149 - 14/12/2020 14:35:10    2322311

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Simply delighted :-)

What a brilliant few years we've had, great to be alive & witness this after the dark days of the past.

I hope that if Limerick do not win the all Ireland in 2021 that Waterford do it. A fine team, a county that has had a lot of hurling heartbreak and a very talented Manager.

Luimneach Abú

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 14/12/2020 14:40:29    2322315

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Welcome back to the very bitter katser..limerick are lucky to be where they are..I would have been happy to se us winning one,now I want them to keep going and win as much as possible..these years won't last forever..do some people want to see the so called big 3 back and dominating?if so why?i want Waterford to win an all ireland senior title but not at Limerick's expense..I've said before we need clare,Wexford,Waterford,Dublin and all other counties upsetting the dominant 3..cmon limerick!!!!!!

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2214 - 14/12/2020 15:00:29    2322319

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "Welcome back to the very bitter katser..limerick are lucky to be where they are..I would have been happy to se us winning one,now I want them to keep going and win as much as possible..these years won't last forever..do some people want to see the so called big 3 back and dominating?if so why?i want Waterford to win an all ireland senior title but not at Limerick's expense..I've said before we need clare,Wexford,Waterford,Dublin and all other counties upsetting the dominant 3..cmon limerick!!!!!!"
And who exactly are the "dominant three" these days?

Moyle (Tipperary) - Posts: 86 - 14/12/2020 15:40:09    2322328

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Replying To Moyle:  "And who exactly are the "dominant three" these days?"
The three amigos

the creeler (Cavan) - Posts: 512 - 14/12/2020 16:41:08    2322351

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Replying To Moyle:  "And who exactly are the "dominant three" these days?"
The 3 counties with 94 All Irelands between them.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 14/12/2020 17:36:38    2322367

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Replying To republicofcloone:  "They coach the goalkeeper to do what exactly?"
Keep goals

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 14/12/2020 18:14:34    2322383

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "The 3 counties with 94 All Irelands between them."
Yes even though Cork haven't won it for 15 years.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2162 - 14/12/2020 18:46:29    2322399

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Replying To endgame:  "Yes even though Cork haven't won it for 15 years."
Hardly matters Tipp did not win one for 18 years, KK won no All Ireland until 03, won one from '13 to '32 and won one from 39 to 57, Cork went 15 years without one before.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 14/12/2020 20:45:17    2322442

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Replying To McFan88:  "Incorrect. From the city division NaP, Monaleen, Ballybrown and Patrickswell are all senior clubs and will be joined by Kildimo Pallaskenry in 2021. Mungret narrowly missed out on promotion from premier intermediate.

Only 2 Limerick rugby clubs have maintained top tier status over the past number of years, another formerly great club went up and got relegated again straight away, A few other Limerick rugby clubs are listed as "senior" but play in the lower leagues and have all seen their adult teams fare poorly over the past number of years - rugby in Limerick has fallen off a cliff in terms of its strength compared to what it used to be (a huge problem that Munster rugby are actively trying to address).

Although not necessarily a true indicator of popularity - soccer, followed by hurling has the highest participation at adult level in Limerick. Gaelic football and rugby have similar participation rates (this is not conjecture - its based on player registrations i.e. paid up memberships and was published in a local paper article earlier in the year)."
Ah come on. Kildimo, Patrickswell,Ballybrown aren't in the city...Shur my uncle is a Farmer in Ballybrown. Are you having a laugh.
Garryowen,Bohemians, Young Munster,Old Crescent, Shannon all senior and top quality sides with multiple teams...St Mary's, Richmond ,Thomond ... So no comparison . I get your point that hurling is making more of an impact in the city but Limerick will always be a rugby heartland...with many hurlers and soccer players . Gaelic football is played by no one in the city really..Monaleen that's it.. Na Piarsaigh to keep fit..ect. Limerick badly needs a top class inner city hurling club thats run aswell as Na Piarsaigh

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 14/12/2020 21:16:37    2322454

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Hardly matters Tipp did not win one for 18 years, KK won no All Ireland until 03, won one from '13 to '32 and won one from 39 to 57, Cork went 15 years without one before."
It could definitely be argued that Kilkenny made up for it since.!

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2162 - 14/12/2020 21:24:49    2322455

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Replying To endgame:  "It could definitely be argued that Kilkenny made up for it since.!"
And so did Cork and Tipp and they all will again

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 14/12/2020 21:32:05    2322460

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Replying To katser:  "Boring is the word...I feel asleep watching the game. One of the worst All Ireland Finals ever."
Ah Katser you will be very welcome to join us in Limerick for the celebrations - whenever they do happen. Would you like a signed Limerick jersey?

johnocarroll17 (Limerick) - Posts: 408 - 14/12/2020 21:45:29    2322468

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Replying To katser:  "Boring is the word...I feel asleep watching the game. One of the worst All Ireland Finals ever."
LOL. A team gets 10 points from play in an All Ireland Semi Final and fails to draw a single save from the opposition goalkeeper and one of their supporters lectures a team that got 24 points from play, and from all angles and distances, in an All Ireland Final about been boring.. You could not make it up.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 14/12/2020 22:49:38    2322489

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Replying To katser:  "Boring is the word...I feel asleep watching the game. One of the worst All Ireland Finals ever."
Even though I'd like to have seen Waterford win it, Limerick were awesome. Probably the most complete AI final performance since KK in 2008, and before that, KK in 1982. And that's no bad reflection on WAT. They threw what they had at Limerick, but were just up against an articulated truck of a side, but one with brains. 
 
Limerick play with a formidable style, but also a very scientific, intelligent brand of hurling where they rarely give away possession or waste it. As the great Anthony Daly said in the Examiner, it is 'total hurling' 'at a new level', similar to Cruyff's great Dutch 'total football' side of the 1970's. Except Limerick have titles to show for it, and the Dutch do not. 
 
This intelligent hurling may not suit the traditional hit and hope merchants where you gave your opponent as much opportunity of winning the ball you hit as your own man. Trust me, Limerick were at if for years, too. That is not a smart way to play the game.  
 
But it's not just when they have the ball that Limerick are smart. They defend intelligently as well when a team comes at them. In fairness to Waterford, they got quite a few shots off on goal, but none that would really trouble a staunch 'keeper like Quaid. However, look at the semi-final. Look at poor Galway, with all those vaunted names in their 'big' attack, how many shots did Galway get off on goal in 80 minutes of hurling? A very quick and easy answer to that…none, NOT ONE in 80 minutes. That day it seemed like a little mini minor versus and articulated truck. At least Waterford looked like a bus.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1909 - 15/12/2020 03:06:27    2322505

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Replying To katser:  "Boring is the word...I feel asleep watching the game. One of the worst All Ireland Finals ever."
At least Katser we beat a full Waterford team. apart from Tadgh de Burca, a man of limerick parents anyway, not one that had issues with suspension controversies, injuries and Jamie Barron, their best player against Kilkenny that year having to go off early due to having been been ill all week.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 15/12/2020 09:10:52    2322516

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Replying To Irishcelt:  "Agreed they are a brilliant team and I'm glad that there is another county other than the big 3 winning all Irelands. But yes there style of hurling this year in particular is a pure bore fest. In 18 they played excitein brand but this year it would put you asleep"
A pure bore fest -really. Ex All Ireland players like Henry Shefflin, Donal Og Cusack, Eamon Grimes, Michael Duignan, Antony Daly and Babs Keating, among others, all laud this team them for their style, athleticism, accuracy under pressure, energy and generally fine play and yet you, a man from county with over 100, 000 that never even one Senior provincial title, dismiss them as boring.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 15/12/2020 09:17:54    2322519

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Ah come on. Kildimo, Patrickswell,Ballybrown aren't in the city...Shur my uncle is a Farmer in Ballybrown. Are you having a laugh.
Garryowen,Bohemians, Young Munster,Old Crescent, Shannon all senior and top quality sides with multiple teams...St Mary's, Richmond ,Thomond ... So no comparison . I get your point that hurling is making more of an impact in the city but Limerick will always be a rugby heartland...with many hurlers and soccer players . Gaelic football is played by no one in the city really..Monaleen that's it.. Na Piarsaigh to keep fit..ect. Limerick badly needs a top class inner city hurling club thats run aswell as Na Piarsaigh"
Not sure if you're ball hopping here - only 2 top division rugby clubs - Munsters and Garryowen. Shannon play in the second tier, Bohs and Crescent play in the third tier, none of the three are promotion contenders. Not sure what point you're making by listing off a few junior clubs that scrape teams together? All of these teams used to have a first team, second/junior team and a third team, now they can barely scrape second teams - surely you can accept the serious decline even in the last 10 years?

Leaving aside hurling which has far more adult players lets address your comment "Gaelic football is played by no one in the city". Using your logic by naming lower league teams, and excluding rural clubs that compete in the city division: Monaleen, Na Piarsaigh and Claughan all senior, St Pats and Mungret have strong intermediate teams, Monaleen have 3 different adult football teams, NaP have 2, Pats have 2, Mungret have 2, Abbey Sarsfields have 1, Ballinacurra Gaels have 1, Claughan have 1.

Easier to follow my point on participation? Again - per my original post, not claiming that participation is a true indicator of support/popularity but its valid to note the decline in rugby.

McFan88 (Limerick) - Posts: 447 - 15/12/2020 10:05:39    2322531

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