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Replying To Afinestick: "I agree both were very good last year. Be interesting to see if Egan goes for Lawlor or Fanning on Saturday" Need to make a change and give Lawlor his chance.
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Replying To Yellow: "I have never been less excited for championship or had less expectations since Liam Dunne era
Salt hill is probably the toughest place to start the round robin
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Fanning
S Reck Ryan Donohue
DOK
C Foley D Reck Hanlon
R Lalor Chin
Oisin Foley Jacko Rory O Conor
Mac C Hearne
Jacks job would be to take the CB out of the game - be it Burke or Mc Inerney and be a big physical presence and stop them dominating and using the half back line as a launch pad for attack. Hook hassle Harry and never let his man past him. He would be instructed to not even try and catch the ball but break it down every time for Chin/ lalor or whoever to run onto. We need to push up and not concede the short pick out too" I would be happy with this team also. Id keep Rory in close to Mac hopefully we could get enough ball in to cause the Galway defence problems
Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 19/04/2023 15:50:34
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Replying To Yellow: "I have never been less excited for championship or had less expectations since Liam Dunne era
Salt hill is probably the toughest place to start the round robin
I'd go with
Fanning
S Reck Ryan Donohue
DOK
C Foley D Reck Hanlon
R Lalor Chin
Oisin Foley Jacko Rory O Conor
Mac C Hearne
Jacks job would be to take the CB out of the game - be it Burke or Mc Inerney and be a big physical presence and stop them dominating and using the half back line as a launch pad for attack. Hook hassle Harry and never let his man past him. He would be instructed to not even try and catch the ball but break it down every time for Chin/ lalor or whoever to run onto. We need to push up and not concede the short pick out too" Jacko should be capable of all that but hasn't delivered consistently at senior level really for whatever reason. Big strong mobile lad with plenty of skill, should be a Hegarty or Joseph Cooney like player for us.
Hope to be proven wrong but from the likely team on Saturday we are still reliant on a core of players whose best days are behind them. Player development obviously a huge problem that we don't have too many ready to step up and hold their own in a championship game in Salthill.
Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 444 - 19/04/2023 16:26:10
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Replying To Timbertony: "Need to make a change and give Lawlor his chance." Id agree 100% . Feel sorry for Mark hes been a great servant but his confidence looks gone in the last year or so
Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 19/04/2023 16:53:12
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Replying To Timbertony: "Jacko should be capable of all that but hasn't delivered consistently at senior level really for whatever reason. Big strong mobile lad with plenty of skill, should be a Hegarty or Joseph Cooney like player for us.
Hope to be proven wrong but from the likely team on Saturday we are still reliant on a core of players whose best days are behind them. Player development obviously a huge problem that we don't have too many ready to step up and hold their own in a championship game in Salthill." I think the best i've ever seen Jacko play in a Wexford jersey was the 2nd half off the bench against Kilkenny in 2019 in Wexford Park.
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 19/04/2023 17:11:02
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Replying To Yellow: "I have never been less excited for championship or had less expectations since Liam Dunne era
Salt hill is probably the toughest place to start the round robin
I'd go with
Fanning
S Reck Ryan Donohue
DOK
C Foley D Reck Hanlon
R Lalor Chin
Oisin Foley Jacko Rory O Conor
Mac C Hearne
Jacks job would be to take the CB out of the game - be it Burke or Mc Inerney and be a big physical presence and stop them dominating and using the half back line as a launch pad for attack. Hook hassle Harry and never let his man past him. He would be instructed to not even try and catch the ball but break it down every time for Chin/ lalor or whoever to run onto. We need to push up and not concede the short pick out too" You have named out all Jackos weaknesses as a reason to pick him. The hooking, hassling and harrying.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16842 - 19/04/2023 17:29:31
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Replying To TerribleFootwork: "My team for Saturday if O'Hanlon is fit
Lawlor
S Reck
Ryan
Devitt
Dee (Sweeper)
Donohoe
O'Hanlon
D Reck
McGovern
Dunbar
R Lawlor
Chin
McGuckin
ROC
Conor Mac
Hopefully no injuries picked up during the game and from the 6 of Hearne, Jacko, Dwyer, K Foley, O Foley, Flood there's 5 lads who can make a difference coming in." Think I'd start O Foley instead of Richie or Charlie for his size as much as anything else. And swap Damien and Matthew. But other than that I was going to name the same team. Also I'd let Dee roam forward sometimes as he usually does, play a deep midfielders job covering back. Effectively 3 in midfield.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16842 - 19/04/2023 17:32:57
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Replying To TerribleFootwork: "My team for Saturday if O'Hanlon is fit
Lawlor
S Reck
Ryan
Devitt
Dee (Sweeper)
Donohoe
O'Hanlon
D Reck
McGovern
Dunbar
R Lawlor
Chin
McGuckin
ROC
Conor Mac
Hopefully no injuries picked up during the game and from the 6 of Hearne, Jacko, Dwyer, K Foley, O Foley, Flood there's 5 lads who can make a difference coming in." Not that confident either to be honest.
Lawlor
S Reck, Ryan, Devitt
Donohoe, D Reck, matt
Dee, Lawlor
Mcguckian, chin, Foley
Rory, mac, Mogie
Dee sweeper of course with Mogie dropping back around midfield and mac and roc inside.
Agree we have 5 or 6 on the bench who can add something which we haven't really had in the past.
I think that's the most potent attack we could have and jacko is the first to come on for me.
Lawlor has to start in the goal.
I think when fit Oisín is nailed on too.
Mcguckian has improved massively this year so hopefully that can continue.
It's not all doom and gloom.
R Lawlor, Foley, Devitt, Hearne, Higgins, Mcguckian, Clancy, Banville are all still inexperienced. They may not be chin or mac but they can develop into very good players.
I think seamie o hagan is one to watch.
You don't see many exploding onto the scene any more. Chin and mac were exceptions for us really
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3885 - 19/04/2023 17:58:52
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Replying To Yellow: "I have never been less excited for championship or had less expectations since Liam Dunne era
Salt hill is probably the toughest place to start the round robin
I'd go with
Fanning
S Reck Ryan Donohue
DOK
C Foley D Reck Hanlon
R Lalor Chin
Oisin Foley Jacko Rory O Conor
Mac C Hearne
Jacks job would be to take the CB out of the game - be it Burke or Mc Inerney and be a big physical presence and stop them dominating and using the half back line as a launch pad for attack. Hook hassle Harry and never let his man past him. He would be instructed to not even try and catch the ball but break it down every time for Chin/ lalor or whoever to run onto. We need to push up and not concede the short pick out too" Jack has let us down too many times when given a starting position.
I hope he goes well but I wouldn't be relying on him.
Past hurler (None) - Posts: 977 - 19/04/2023 18:45:01
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Unlikely we'll win on Saturday but what I will be looking at will be performance. Will some of our newer lads survive the onslaught which is sure to come from Galway? Will our returning injured players be match fit? Will Darragh have a game plan that will give the tribesmen problems?
Will our backs be able to keep Whelan and company quiet? Can we keep the wides down to single figures? Will we score goals? ( a rarity for us these days) will our lack of support on enemy soil be a factor in our performance?
I can't answer any of the above questions but most if not all of them will have to come good on the day or we may be heading for a heavy defeat.
Let's hope the boys rise to the occasion and throw everything at them. If we lose but show promising form then it will build confidence for the remainder of the games in the round Robin.
Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 545 - 19/04/2023 19:31:10
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Replying To Yellow: "I have never been less excited for championship or had less expectations since Liam Dunne era
Salt hill is probably the toughest place to start the round robin
I'd go with
Fanning
S Reck Ryan Donohue
DOK
C Foley D Reck Hanlon
R Lalor Chin
Oisin Foley Jacko Rory O Conor
Mac C Hearne
Jacks job would be to take the CB out of the game - be it Burke or Mc Inerney and be a big physical presence and stop them dominating and using the half back line as a launch pad for attack. Hook hassle Harry and never let his man past him. He would be instructed to not even try and catch the ball but break it down every time for Chin/ lalor or whoever to run onto. We need to push up and not concede the short pick out too" Yellow by name and nature . Never been less excited for championship or less expectations since Liam Dunne era.
A very disapointind post i have to say . Liam Dunne had to chop a lot of dead wood from wexford hurling when he took over the team and start to build a new team . Wexford Hurling was in a much better place after his era than what our great Davy left behind. Yellow has a very short memory how bad and the state Wexford hurling was in before Liam took over . The Clare man gave no player a chance for 5 years only Rory O Connor. Paying a heavy price now.
Davy Loved Wexford with Waterford now and Antrim next.Now we have Egan a Tipperary man.
Only going one way for us now boys.
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Replying To castletownman: "Yellow by name and nature . Never been less excited for championship or less expectations since Liam Dunne era.
A very disapointind post i have to say . Liam Dunne had to chop a lot of dead wood from wexford hurling when he took over the team and start to build a new team . Wexford Hurling was in a much better place after his era than what our great Davy left behind. Yellow has a very short memory how bad and the state Wexford hurling was in before Liam took over . The Clare man gave no player a chance for 5 years only Rory O Connor. Paying a heavy price now.
Davy Loved Wexford with Waterford now and Antrim next.Now we have Egan a Tipperary man.
Only going one way for us now boys." That's a negative ending to a post you put up yourself lad!
Yes Dunne rescued us from oblivion and did a great job bringing lads through. Agreed Davy only brought through Damien and Rory really. He gave a little time at the end to Joe OC, Mikey, Conor Hearne, Gavin Bailey. And maybe Darren Byrne. I agree that's why we are where we are this year. Egan had no choice doing what he did so far this year or in a couple of years time we would've started being hammered by everyone again in the Championship as lads started retiring and their replacements would've had next to no Senior intercounty experience or development, S and C or even training.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16842 - 20/04/2023 10:28:48
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Have to admit that I am getting Colm Bonnar era vibes about our progression this season. Our performances in the league (even when taking into account the injuries) were bad enough, but the fact we had no discernible game-plan was the biggest worry. But this is championship and I am obviously rowing in fully behind the lads and preversely, despite my reservations, am still looking forward to it.
I'd say the team is pretty much nailed on along similar lines to what has been submitted on here, but no way Jacko starts when as always he was flitted between half-back and half-forward across the last few games. I see the front eight being:
Dee-Mogie
Hearne-Chin-McGuckin
Rory-Mac-Dwyer.
Just a broader comment. This phenomenon in GAA of 'not wanting to show your full hand'. We are at such a low ebb that why don't we go the full hog and play Rory, Mac and Chin inside together? As Cyril Farrell mentioned on the podcast this week, the era of a three-man full-forward is gone so it would be novel, and certainly more preferable than playing ROC in a sweeper role.
Only the GAA could dilute the premier competition in both codes that teams are happy enough not to go full throttle. Apparently Davy won't want to beat Limerick this weekend as it may be too early- this despite Waterford having a horrendous campaign last year and there is no better man to instill belief in a group than Davy. The format of the under-20 is laughable and like something from go games-participation medals for everyone. In football, seemingly Mayo and Tyrone were better off getting knocked out of their respective provinces as it allows them a longer block of training!
The authorities have started the championship season too early and there just isn't that feel to it yet. The pricing structure is too high. I was more interested in the Masters the first weekend it returned, and in all honesty am more likely to be invested in the conclusion of the Premier League etc, especially when the general consensus is 'ah shure teams aren't showing their full hand'.
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Replying To castletownman: "Yellow by name and nature . Never been less excited for championship or less expectations since Liam Dunne era.
A very disapointind post i have to say . Liam Dunne had to chop a lot of dead wood from wexford hurling when he took over the team and start to build a new team . Wexford Hurling was in a much better place after his era than what our great Davy left behind. Yellow has a very short memory how bad and the state Wexford hurling was in before Liam took over . The Clare man gave no player a chance for 5 years only Rory O Connor. Paying a heavy price now.
Davy Loved Wexford with Waterford now and Antrim next.Now we have Egan a Tipperary man.
Only going one way for us now boys." I meant pre- Liam Dunne era (and pretty sure I typed that too) but whatever Castletownman - Im sure you know loads about hurling coming from Castletown
Yellow (Wexford) - Posts: 589 - 20/04/2023 11:23:20
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Replying To beano: "Have to admit that I am getting Colm Bonnar era vibes about our progression this season. Our performances in the league (even when taking into account the injuries) were bad enough, but the fact we had no discernible game-plan was the biggest worry. But this is championship and I am obviously rowing in fully behind the lads and preversely, despite my reservations, am still looking forward to it.
I'd say the team is pretty much nailed on along similar lines to what has been submitted on here, but no way Jacko starts when as always he was flitted between half-back and half-forward across the last few games. I see the front eight being:
Dee-Mogie
Hearne-Chin-McGuckin
Rory-Mac-Dwyer.
Just a broader comment. This phenomenon in GAA of 'not wanting to show your full hand'. We are at such a low ebb that why don't we go the full hog and play Rory, Mac and Chin inside together? As Cyril Farrell mentioned on the podcast this week, the era of a three-man full-forward is gone so it would be novel, and certainly more preferable than playing ROC in a sweeper role.
Only the GAA could dilute the premier competition in both codes that teams are happy enough not to go full throttle. Apparently Davy won't want to beat Limerick this weekend as it may be too early- this despite Waterford having a horrendous campaign last year and there is no better man to instill belief in a group than Davy. The format of the under-20 is laughable and like something from go games-participation medals for everyone. In football, seemingly Mayo and Tyrone were better off getting knocked out of their respective provinces as it allows them a longer block of training!
The authorities have started the championship season too early and there just isn't that feel to it yet. The pricing structure is too high. I was more interested in the Masters the first weekend it returned, and in all honesty am more likely to be invested in the conclusion of the Premier League etc, especially when the general consensus is 'ah shure teams aren't showing their full hand'." Oisin Foley has to start in my opinion.
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Replying To Yellow: "I meant pre- Liam Dunne era (and pretty sure I typed that too) but whatever Castletownman - Im sure you know loads about hurling coming from Castletown" Liam Dunne's era was a turning point for Wexford but he was feeding off an excellent u21 team which wasn't of his making.
His teams were the start of great days out again. Wins vs Clare, Waterford and Cork standing out. But those days were rare enough for a five year tenure. Imo he stayed on too long and was a poor man manager
Slating Jack Guiney in the national papers when he was only a teenager was a low point for me. I was glad when he left and Wexford improved a lot under Davy.
Yellow (Wexford) - Posts: 589 - 20/04/2023 11:47:27
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Don't post much on here but have been an interested reader for a few years now. I know we had a very poor league and things are not looking good, but the negativity on here is unbelievable. Don't get me wrong I have no illusions of where we are and how much work is needed, but the league is done and in the rear view now. Fresh slate for championship and get behind the lads and see what they are really capable of, these lads have given us some great days over the years and I believe they are capable of giving us a few more yet !
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Replying To Afinestick: "Oisin Foley has to start in my opinion." For sure Afinestick. Can't wait for the team announcement
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16842 - 20/04/2023 12:53:16
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Replying To Yellow: "Liam Dunne's era was a turning point for Wexford but he was feeding off an excellent u21 team which wasn't of his making.
His teams were the start of great days out again. Wins vs Clare, Waterford and Cork standing out. But those days were rare enough for a five year tenure. Imo he stayed on too long and was a poor man manager
Slating Jack Guiney in the national papers when he was only a teenager was a low point for me. I was glad when he left and Wexford improved a lot under Davy." Liam Dunne got us back near the rest of the top counties as regards organisation, S and C programmes and even basic fitness. I think he did an excellent job with us.
Davy is another manager who I'd have massive respect for. The only criticism I'd have would have been bringing players on and getting newer lads up to intercounty standard. Apart from that he was excellent.
I agree Dunne was wrong to go to the papers but remember Davy did his best to get Guiney to commit to an intercounty lifestyle too but it just wasn't for him. And that's not a criticism of Guiney. His life is his to lead and really none of our business. I just hope he doesn't have too many regrets over it all when he gets older.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16842 - 20/04/2023 13:00:32
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Replying To Yellow: "Liam Dunne's era was a turning point for Wexford but he was feeding off an excellent u21 team which wasn't of his making.
His teams were the start of great days out again. Wins vs Clare, Waterford and Cork standing out. But those days were rare enough for a five year tenure. Imo he stayed on too long and was a poor man manager
Slating Jack Guiney in the national papers when he was only a teenager was a low point for me. I was glad when he left and Wexford improved a lot under Davy." Liam Dunne got us back near the rest of the top counties as regards organisation, S and C programmes and even basic fitness. I think he did an excellent job with us.
Davy is another manager who I'd have massive respect for. The only criticism I'd have would have been bringing players on and getting newer lads up to intercounty standard. Apart from that he was excellent.
I agree Dunne was wrong to go to the papers but remember Davy did his best to get Guiney to commit to an intercounty lifestyle too but it just wasn't for him. And that's not a criticism of Guiney. His life is his to lead and really none of our business. I just hope he doesn't have too many regrets over it all when he gets older.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16842 - 20/04/2023 13:00:40
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