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Replying To Yellow:  "Where can the Galway match be watched - is it not on tv?"
Just to clarify, Senior on GAAGO, presumably u20 will be on Clubber again.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 17/04/2023 13:59:07    2471383

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Replying To Yellow:  "Where can the Galway match be watched - is it not on tv?"
It's on Gaa Go for 11.99

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 17/04/2023 14:05:03    2471385

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Replying To Viking66:  "I'd say all 4 teams are experimenting during this phase of the competition. I wouldn't be reading too much into that performance, same as I wasn't getting carried away after the last win. We don't know what physical work Kilkenny were doing during the week before last, or what we were doing during last week."
I reckon at u20 Leinster is the stronger province this year, arguably was last year too.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 17/04/2023 14:29:28    2471388

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "GAAGO"
It will be interesting to watch it back Sunday and see all the improvements they promised when my kids bought me the package for Xmas!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16841 - 17/04/2023 15:32:50    2471401

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⁴Not at all confident about Saturday.
Darragh said on South east radio that some of the injured players would be Back for this game
He didn't say which of them would be available.
Great if they have recovered enough but
are they match fit. It's going to be very physical in Salthill. The big question is will they survive the heat of battle. Even with a fully fit panel I would be hesitant to give us the vote.
As it stands we simply don't have a lot of quality on the bench. They are improving but it could take a year or two before some of them step up to the required standard.
I would love to be 100% wrong with the above but my head tells me otherwise.
Hopefully Dee, Mac Devit, Mogie, Richie Lawllor and Jippo are ready for action and give it their all.
Maybe the training they put in over the last few weeks will be sufficient but I wouldn't be too sure.
Verdict-- Galway to win by 7 points.

Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 545 - 17/04/2023 19:24:50    2471447

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Replying To Viking66:  "It will be interesting to watch it back Sunday and see all the improvements they promised when my kids bought me the package for Xmas!"
I have a season pass myself. I just hope Saturday's match will be worth watching back!

What I find curious though is nobody seems to be complaining yet about "terrible that it's only on GAA GO, what about all the old people who don't have internet?" in the way that they did about "terrible that it's on Sky Sports, what about all the old people who don't have Sky?"

People never seemed to realise that the matches on Sky were extra matches that otherwise wouldn't have been shown anywhere else. Surely it was better that they were shown at all, even if only accessible to some people, rather than not being shown at all.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3010 - 17/04/2023 21:13:56    2471465

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4 days out from championship how are we looking with injuries. I wish GAA teams were more transparent with injury updates. I realise the lads aren't professional but would it kill to give an update on lads status to the fans. 4 days out and I couldn't tell you what the team will be.

ChinCanHurl (Wexford) - Posts: 302 - 18/04/2023 08:29:13    2471485

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Replying To Magpie2:  "⁴Not at all confident about Saturday.
Darragh said on South east radio that some of the injured players would be Back for this game
He didn't say which of them would be available.
Great if they have recovered enough but
are they match fit. It's going to be very physical in Salthill. The big question is will they survive the heat of battle. Even with a fully fit panel I would be hesitant to give us the vote.
As it stands we simply don't have a lot of quality on the bench. They are improving but it could take a year or two before some of them step up to the required standard.
I would love to be 100% wrong with the above but my head tells me otherwise.
Hopefully Dee, Mac Devit, Mogie, Richie Lawllor and Jippo are ready for action and give it their all.
Maybe the training they put in over the last few weeks will be sufficient but I wouldn't be too sure.
Verdict-- Galway to win by 7 points."
Good post Magpie . Would agree with everything. If we had a fully fit panel and lads had game time in the bank I would fancy us to nick it. It's going to be very tough given we will probably be with out some players( we dont know who yet) and some lads coming back with limited game time. We just have to hope the work put in over the last month will be enough. I see people commenting on a post from Wexford Gaa yesterday saying Damien Reck is out? Really hope that is not the case I thought he just strained his hamstring in the Cork game which was 6 weeks ago

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 18/04/2023 09:49:23    2471493

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Replying To ChinCanHurl:  "4 days out from championship how are we looking with injuries. I wish GAA teams were more transparent with injury updates. I realise the lads aren't professional but would it kill to give an update on lads status to the fans. 4 days out and I couldn't tell you what the team will be."
You have to remember that giving such updates to fans would also be giving them to the opposition.

If I was Darragh Egan, I wouldn't want Galway knowing now that players A and B will be back from injury for Saturday, but players C and D will still be out. I'd be holding off as long as possible before having to release that information.

Matchday squads for championship have to be submitted to Croke Park on Thursdays and there's a new thing this year where they're given to the media on Friday mornings. You'll find out then. Presume Wexford GAA will have the usual team announcement thing up on their Facebook and Twitter then too.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3010 - 18/04/2023 09:58:41    2471494

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "You have to remember that giving such updates to fans would also be giving them to the opposition.

If I was Darragh Egan, I wouldn't want Galway knowing now that players A and B will be back from injury for Saturday, but players C and D will still be out. I'd be holding off as long as possible before having to release that information.

Matchday squads for championship have to be submitted to Croke Park on Thursdays and there's a new thing this year where they're given to the media on Friday mornings. You'll find out then. Presume Wexford GAA will have the usual team announcement thing up on their Facebook and Twitter then too."
The majority of other sports manage just fine with giving updates on injuries without worrying about the opposition knowing he/she will be back. If we had a clean bill of health going into the game which we would all prefer Galway would know everyone was available anyway so what's the difference.

ChinCanHurl (Wexford) - Posts: 302 - 18/04/2023 10:40:18    2471508

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "I have a season pass myself. I just hope Saturday's match will be worth watching back!

What I find curious though is nobody seems to be complaining yet about "terrible that it's only on GAA GO, what about all the old people who don't have internet?" in the way that they did about "terrible that it's on Sky Sports, what about all the old people who don't have Sky?"

People never seemed to realise that the matches on Sky were extra matches that otherwise wouldn't have been shown anywhere else. Surely it was better that they were shown at all, even if only accessible to some people, rather than not being shown at all."
To be fair I'm not sure when the Sky deal began in 2014 they were extra matches as they took over games from TV3/Virgin Media, I think the outrage then was games moving from free to air to behind a paywall.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 18/04/2023 10:49:53    2471510

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "
Replying To Pikeman96:  "I have a season pass myself. I just hope Saturday's match will be worth watching back!

What I find curious though is nobody seems to be complaining yet about "terrible that it's only on GAA GO, what about all the old people who don't have internet?" in the way that they did about "terrible that it's on Sky Sports, what about all the old people who don't have Sky?"

People never seemed to realise that the matches on Sky were extra matches that otherwise wouldn't have been shown anywhere else. Surely it was better that they were shown at all, even if only accessible to some people, rather than not being shown at all."
To be fair I'm not sure when the Sky deal began in 2014 they were extra matches as they took over games from TV3/Virgin Media, I think the outrage then was games moving from free to air to behind a paywall."
Yes, but TV3 (as it was then called) elected at the time to not show live GAA matches any more, on account of the resources and expense involved.

RTE didn't want to take on those additional matches either, on top of what they were already doing. They were showing around 30 live matches per year at the time, and they're still showing around 30 live matches per year today.

So, the matches that ended up on Sky wouldn't have been shown at all if the rights hadn't been given to Sky. TV3 didn't want them, RTE didn't want them either (and still don't), and there was nobody else.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3010 - 18/04/2023 11:00:06    2471512

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Just replying to Pikeman here as the thread was beginning to get messy and hard to read with multiple posts showing, I don't know the backstory but reading this article doesn't sound like TV3 as it was then wanted to give up the deal.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/sky-sports-in-tv3-out-as-gaa-announces-new-broadcasting-package-30145793.html

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 18/04/2023 11:30:22    2471518

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Replying To ChinCanHurl:  "4 days out from championship how are we looking with injuries. I wish GAA teams were more transparent with injury updates. I realise the lads aren't professional but would it kill to give an update on lads status to the fans. 4 days out and I couldn't tell you what the team will be."
According to Egan in the paper Carty, Higgins and Niall Murphy are definitely out. Matthew O Hanlon is touch and go. Everyone else is fully fit.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16841 - 18/04/2023 11:46:18    2471523

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Replying To Afinestick:  "Good post Magpie . Would agree with everything. If we had a fully fit panel and lads had game time in the bank I would fancy us to nick it. It's going to be very tough given we will probably be with out some players( we dont know who yet) and some lads coming back with limited game time. We just have to hope the work put in over the last month will be enough. I see people commenting on a post from Wexford Gaa yesterday saying Damien Reck is out? Really hope that is not the case I thought he just strained his hamstring in the Cork game which was 6 weeks ago"
Apparently he is fit after a bruised foot.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16841 - 18/04/2023 11:47:22    2471525

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Replying To ChinCanHurl:  "The majority of other sports manage just fine with giving updates on injuries without worrying about the opposition knowing he/she will be back. If we had a clean bill of health going into the game which we would all prefer Galway would know everyone was available anyway so what's the difference."
According to Michael Verney in the Indo Ian Carty, Rory Higgins and Niall Murphy defiantly out and O'Hanlon touch and go, sounds like everyone else good to go, with 2 or 3 defenders out of contention for the 26 I'd say there's a good chance the u20s will be missing Conor Foley on Friday evening.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 18/04/2023 11:58:20    2471535

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Another article in the Wexford People, the article in the indo was behind a paywall.

https://www.independent.ie/regionals/wexford/sport/gaa/matthew-ohanlon-and-damien-reck-big-doubts-for-wexford-hurlers-ahead-of-championship-tie-in-galway-42437198.html

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 18/04/2023 12:00:27    2471536

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Just replying to Pikeman here as the thread was beginning to get messy and hard to read with multiple posts showing, I don't know the backstory but reading this article doesn't sound like TV3 as it was then wanted to give up the deal.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/sky-sports-in-tv3-out-as-gaa-announces-new-broadcasting-package-30145793.html"
Here's some of the backstory you're not aware of, and which TV3 omitted to mention as it "expressed its disappointment" at the time. And trust me, because I have inside knowledge on this:

- TV3 had paid X amount per year, for six years running, to show 14 live matches per year.
- They then said they could no longer afford X amount. They also said they could no longer 100% commit to showing 14 matches because of personnel and equipment required each time.
- They instead offered a significantly reduced amount for eight matches, saying they would endeavour to cover the extra six if circumstances allowed and if was felt there'd be a sizeable enough viewing audience for them.
- They also sought exclusivity for one of the All-Ireland senior finals. RTE were unwilling to concede on this, and said they would have to significantly review their own offer if the GAA allowed TV3 what they were seeking.
- Sky then offered the same X amount for the same package of 14 matches, with no extra demands, and with a willingness to share the rights to the All-Ireland Finals with RTE.

The decision was taken that the TV3 proposal was unacceptable. This left a situation where either Sky would be given the rights, or else those matches wouldn't be shown at all. And obviously, Sky got the rights.

For what it's worth, main reason Sky have pulled out now is that they wanted championship matches fixed this year in such a way that no other match would be taking place at the same time as one of their live broadcasts (similar to how no other Premier League match ever clashes with one of their live broadcasts there, except on the last day of the season).

GAA told them this couldn't be done, on account of how so many matches need to be played each weekend. Sky then chose to take a hike. RTE still didn't want to commit to these extra matches, and so they're falling to GAA GO instead.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3010 - 18/04/2023 12:29:02    2471545

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Replying To Viking66:  "According to Egan in the paper Carty, Higgins and Niall Murphy are definitely out. Matthew O Hanlon is touch and go. Everyone else is fully fit."
Thats Good news considering how long our injury list was. Disappointing Carty misses out think he could have been a very good option at wing back. Touch wood Hanlon makes it he is a big leader for this team. Team could look something like Lawlor, Shane Reck, Jippo, Devitt, Donohoe , Damien Reck, Hanlon, Dee O Keeffe, Dunbar, Jacko , Oisin Foley, Chin, ROC, Mac, Hearne (third midfielder)
This would leave likes of McGovern, Dwyer, Richie Lawlor, Flood , McGuckian, Kevin Foley and David Clarke as options off the bench. I would leave Conor Foley with the 20s if we can atall.
If the we have these lads and all of them are fit and ready to go we can produce a performance on Saturday.

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 18/04/2023 13:08:56    2471562

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Replying To Afinestick:  "Thats Good news considering how long our injury list was. Disappointing Carty misses out think he could have been a very good option at wing back. Touch wood Hanlon makes it he is a big leader for this team. Team could look something like Lawlor, Shane Reck, Jippo, Devitt, Donohoe , Damien Reck, Hanlon, Dee O Keeffe, Dunbar, Jacko , Oisin Foley, Chin, ROC, Mac, Hearne (third midfielder)
This would leave likes of McGovern, Dwyer, Richie Lawlor, Flood , McGuckian, Kevin Foley and David Clarke as options off the bench. I would leave Conor Foley with the 20s if we can atall.
If the we have these lads and all of them are fit and ready to go we can produce a performance on Saturday."
Id have any of the 1st 6 subs named instead of Jacko tbh. He's looked really poor this year. Hopefully he starts and plays really well in Salthill after me saying that! Agree about Conor Foley.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16841 - 18/04/2023 15:20:12    2471599

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