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Replying To carlowman:  "Perhaps a little unfair in that while the footballers have not won anything, when Carew came into the management he had the Job of building almost a totally new team as so many had retired.
All he could do was work with the players he was given and that chose to be involved
Most of these were and are young.
I think its easy to be dismissive when a manager does not achieve results when the mitigating factors clearly show that getting results would be against the grain.
There has been a narrative.doing the rounds that Niall Carew was not up to it, that he should have resigned years ago. I think that has been out there and many have bought into that narrative and yet never went to a game themselves and looked at all the factors determining progress.

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I am not totally blaming Niall Carew for all of Carlows football misfortunes far from it however he must take his share of blame and some for his back-room management set up. I will give him credit for staying on as Carlow senior football manager for 5 years after all it's a hell of a long time when things are not going to plan. The Carlow County board can't be coming out of this year after year smelling of roses either.

A noted experience manager from a division 2 or 3 county is needed or from a division 1 county if he can be got along with a valued performance coach. That would be a start.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2949 - 04/06/2024 20:50:07    2549534

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Dan st ledger might be another candidate, former captain great servant, young, up to date with the modern game.

Barrowsider (Carlow) - Posts: 1623 - 04/06/2024 21:49:30    2549553

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Replying To Barrowsider:  "Dan st ledger might be another candidate, former captain great servant, young, up to date with the modern game."
I would love to know who your 2nd choice would be.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2949 - 04/06/2024 23:50:05    2549579

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Replying To supersub15:  "I am not totally blaming Niall Carew for all of Carlows football misfortunes far from it however he must take his share of blame and some for his back-room management set up. I will give him credit for staying on as Carlow senior football manager for 5 years after all it's a hell of a long time when things are not going to plan. The Carlow County board can't be coming out of this year after year smelling of roses either.

A noted experience manager from a division 2 or 3 county is needed or from a division 1 county if he can be got along with a valued performance coach. That would be a start."
I wouldn't be in a panic just yet. Within a month or 6 weeks there'll be no shortage of managers (complete with large backroom teams) jockeying for the next lucrative gig.
Don't be fooled by their standard line of guff (this isn't the time for hasty decisions/ I'm going to reflect on the year/ we'll be talking with the CB) these lads are willing and ready to dazzle your board officials with their carefully cultivated lines of patter and promise.
The potential of the squad is secondary to the depth of the pockets in many of these cases.

Boxtyeater (Leitrim) - Posts: 693 - 06/06/2024 11:14:23    2549816

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Anyone any idea when the Football championship draw will be on. Usually the draw is done by now.
Hard to see who will be in the running to replace Carew, in fairness 5 years is a long time to be at the helm. I wouldnt be surprised to see another Kildare man take the role, we always seem to head that direction for management. Karl O Dwyer son of a famous dad has been mentioned. I see Joe Murphy and Dan St Ledger mentioned as well and Turlo. Be interesting to see who is appointed.

jigger (None) - Posts: 100 - 06/06/2024 18:10:12    2549895

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Replying To jigger:  "Anyone any idea when the Football championship draw will be on. Usually the draw is done by now.
Hard to see who will be in the running to replace Carew, in fairness 5 years is a long time to be at the helm. I wouldnt be surprised to see another Kildare man take the role, we always seem to head that direction for management. Karl O Dwyer son of a famous dad has been mentioned. I see Joe Murphy and Dan St Ledger mentioned as well and Turlo. Be interesting to see who is appointed."
I'd assume they are waiting to clear up the leagues first then make the draws. So probably another couple of weeks

Barrowsider (Carlow) - Posts: 1623 - 07/06/2024 19:59:48    2550087

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Would anyone be against Sean Murphy (Fennagh) becoming the new Carlow bainisteoir?
We would have the fastest manger in Ireland possibly even in world sport

Carlowrising (Carlow) - Posts: 137 - 08/06/2024 14:28:47    2550170

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Replying To Carlowrising:  "Would anyone be against Sean Murphy (Fennagh) becoming the new Carlow bainisteoir?
We would have the fastest manger in Ireland possibly even in world sport"
Posted at 2.48pm? Suggest you wait until the sun goes down before opening the wine bottle.

CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 651 - 09/06/2024 14:35:45    2550319

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County football draw
2 groups, one group loaded and the other looks easy on paper.
Gp 1 Tinryland, Old Leighlin, MLR, Bagenalstown
Very favourable group with very little between all, fancy Old Leighlin to top the group and go to semis, Tinryland would expect to qualify. Looks like between MLR and Bagenalstown for relegation final.The reason for Bagenalstown they didnt play any football in the league.
Gp 2 EO, Rathvilly,Palatine and Clonmore
Looks like a tough draw with the last 3 champions in the group. Clonmore after a very impressive league campaign will be under pressure to get a result. On paper doomed to a relegation final. Rathvilly to top group with Pal or EO as runners up. These 3 will make semis with OL from Gp 1. If draw is favourable Rathvily v EO final.

jigger (None) - Posts: 100 - 14/06/2024 13:48:30    2551426

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Replying To jigger:  "County football draw
2 groups, one group loaded and the other looks easy on paper.
Gp 1 Tinryland, Old Leighlin, MLR, Bagenalstown
Very favourable group with very little between all, fancy Old Leighlin to top the group and go to semis, Tinryland would expect to qualify. Looks like between MLR and Bagenalstown for relegation final.The reason for Bagenalstown they didnt play any football in the league.
Gp 2 EO, Rathvilly,Palatine and Clonmore
Looks like a tough draw with the last 3 champions in the group. Clonmore after a very impressive league campaign will be under pressure to get a result. On paper doomed to a relegation final. Rathvilly to top group with Pal or EO as runners up. These 3 will make semis with OL from Gp 1. If draw is favourable Rathvily v EO final."
Tough draw for clonmore, it's hard coming up from inter and then landing in the group of death, you would have to fancy rathvilly and eire og to go 1/2 then pal but clonmore will push them, the other group definitely is easier. You would imagine old leighlin will top that and after that any of the 3 could go second.

Intermediate as always will be tight. Can fenagh bounce back on their day they are probably a bit ahead of the rest, that grade looks weak enough but all to play for in it. Tullow will be looking to go one better than last year.Grange might be a team to watch over the coming years, they have some good underage talent coming through. Kildavin are always there abouts and eire og can't be ruled out either.

Junior A again like senior you have 3 of the stronger 4 in one group, leighlin ballon and the cocks, leighlin are in flying form, young and very mobile it will take a good team to stop them they walked the league, the other side will probably be between the blues and kilbride although asca should take a spot there too, palatine were decent in the league but might lose one or two to senior.

I'll go with rathvilly senior
Tullow intermediate
Leighlinbridge junior.

Barrowsider (Carlow) - Posts: 1623 - 14/06/2024 18:07:27    2551483

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Any whispers, can Messiah be persuaded I think he can.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2949 - 20/06/2024 18:43:57    2553251

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Naomh Brid not fielding a senior team this year. Are they dropping into the interimediate championship? Would be very short notice as the fixtures are out. More Senior teams we need not less if we are to continue to develop the game in the county. Hard to believe with a big parish like leighlin that they can't field a senior team. However with 3 football clubs the football probably comes first. I remember a few years back that Ballinabranna tried to reform their hurling team but the Co. Board wouldn't allow it. The feeling was it would break up a senior team but now they can't field one anyway.... Would be great to see Carlow town or Kildavin win the interimediate but perhaps they not ready for Senior yet & for Burren Rangers to win the the Junior to continue their success. Anyone Know why Palatine haven't fielded a Junior team in last few years?? Also I remember Tullow used to filed a Junior team but haven't in a while. The more hurling clubs we have the better

carlo (Carlow) - Posts: 226 - 22/06/2024 13:44:08    2553596

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Replying To supersub15:  "Any whispers, can Messiah be persuaded I think he can."
The messiah being who.. Poacher?
Before we, get anywhere we need to develop under age
You can't make a, silk purse out of a sows ear
We need good minor and u 20s similar to the ones that made the backbone of our Risinh era, of 2017 to 2019

Blackbog (Carlow) - Posts: 708 - 22/06/2024 15:40:29    2553614

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Replying To carlo:  "Naomh Brid not fielding a senior team this year. Are they dropping into the interimediate championship? Would be very short notice as the fixtures are out. More Senior teams we need not less if we are to continue to develop the game in the county. Hard to believe with a big parish like leighlin that they can't field a senior team. However with 3 football clubs the football probably comes first. I remember a few years back that Ballinabranna tried to reform their hurling team but the Co. Board wouldn't allow it. The feeling was it would break up a senior team but now they can't field one anyway.... Would be great to see Carlow town or Kildavin win the interimediate but perhaps they not ready for Senior yet & for Burren Rangers to win the the Junior to continue their success. Anyone Know why Palatine haven't fielded a Junior team in last few years?? Also I remember Tullow used to filed a Junior team but haven't in a while. The more hurling clubs we have the better"
It's disappointing Naomh Brid had to withdraw from the senior championship especially at such late notice. Imo it would be better for hurling in the parish for St Fintans to be allowed reform. I feel selecting from 3 football clubs playing different grades is hampering hurling in the parish there. I agree that more clubs are needed and would like to see those clubs you've mentioned continue to progress and succeed on the field.

Unusedsub (Carlow) - Posts: 84 - 22/06/2024 16:02:44    2553623

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Replying To Unusedsub:  "It's disappointing Naomh Brid had to withdraw from the senior championship especially at such late notice. Imo it would be better for hurling in the parish for St Fintans to be allowed reform. I feel selecting from 3 football clubs playing different grades is hampering hurling in the parish there. I agree that more clubs are needed and would like to see those clubs you've mentioned continue to progress and succeed on the field."
I agree St Fintans should be allowed to reform. Noamh Brid not working by the look of things so let the Ballinabranna lads have their own team again. There was always a great tradition of hurling out there & after the first few years they didn't seem to buy into Naomh Brid. Parnells could be reformed for the leighlin & Old leighlin lads. I never understood how 3 seperate football clubs with hugh rivalry could come together for hurling & have it work long term.

carlo (Carlow) - Posts: 226 - 22/06/2024 17:17:13    2553643

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Replying To Blackbog:  "The messiah being who.. Poacher?
Before we, get anywhere we need to develop under age
You can't make a, silk purse out of a sows ear
We need good minor and u 20s similar to the ones that made the backbone of our Risinh era, of 2017 to 2019"
The rising era team had struggled badly before Stephen Poacher. Taking some awful hidings.

So don't downplay what a good manager can do.

I think we've a decent bunch now, but they do lack size and natural midfielders.

As it happens, my club's man at the county board says it won't be Poacher or Joe Murphy.

CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 651 - 22/06/2024 18:05:34    2553659

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Replying To Unusedsub:  "It's disappointing Naomh Brid had to withdraw from the senior championship especially at such late notice. Imo it would be better for hurling in the parish for St Fintans to be allowed reform. I feel selecting from 3 football clubs playing different grades is hampering hurling in the parish there. I agree that more clubs are needed and would like to see those clubs you've mentioned continue to progress and succeed on the field."
Absolutely. What we need is more dual clubs. Not area teams.

They don't work.

Never have, never will.

CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 651 - 22/06/2024 18:06:58    2553660

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Replying To CARPS:  "Absolutely. What we need is more dual clubs. Not area teams.

They don't work.

Never have, never will."
MLR are a reasonably successful area team

Carlowrising (Carlow) - Posts: 137 - 23/06/2024 14:04:15    2554017

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Replying To Carlowrising:  "MLR are a reasonably successful area team"
MLR are not an area team. They're a dual club.

That's precisely what I was saying.

CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 651 - 23/06/2024 18:10:17    2554076

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Replying To CARPS:  "MLR are not an area team. They're a dual club.

That's precisely what I was saying."
An amalgamated area team Rathanna, Borris and Ballymurphy

Carlowrising (Carlow) - Posts: 137 - 23/06/2024 21:04:43    2554158

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