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Replying To Jack L:  "Getting into the business end of the championship and no County team manager unveiled sounds ominous for 2022. Particularly when competing in D1. Will it be a rushed appointment like before.
We need stability rather than being a yo-yo team.
Selecting a manager when the championship is over seems like a pointless exercise"
What will we do so have no manager for the year and wait and appoint next year - from seeing the matches over the last few weeks i dont think there is many other than what is in with the county that are good enough tbh

Tarismelting22 (Roscommon) - Posts: 738 - 30/08/2022 08:06:39    2439108

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Replying To The_analyser:  "Group stage reaches its conclusion this weekend,

Senior

Oran v Elphin a dead rubber with one team already into the knock out stages and Elphin into the relegation play off. Oran by 4

Glaveys v Roscommon Gaels low scoring contest with the Gaels to edge it by 2 points

Strokestown v Pearses - this doubles up as league relegation play off. Reaction needed for the defending champs, Pearses by 3

Tulsk v Brigids - Brigids will likely rest a few starters here but still win Brigids by 2

Western Gaels v St Faltheachs probably the game of the weekend winner into the knock out stages and the loser has the unwanted relegation play off. Draw which will mean Faithleachs will finish ahead of W Gaels

Clann v Boyle winner will top the group i think Boyle will edge it by 1


Intermediate

Fuerty v Creggs - another game whereby the winner will top the group. Niall Kilroy hurling championship season finished yesterday and even without him should have the experience to win this game by at least 2 points

Croans v Kilmore - Croans by 3 their better scoring should be enough to win here

Clann B v Kilbride - Clann have been very competitive in their games far while Kilbride have struggled badly. Clann by 4

Castlerea v Eire Og top of the table derby clash in Ballinlough. I'd give Castlerea the slight edge by 1 won't be surprised with a draw

St. Dominic's v St Aidans. the championship favourites have done as expected thus far and haven't needed to hit top form, probably the same here, dominics by 4

Shannon Gaels v St Brigids Brigids have more than held their own higher level of competition the Gaels are struggling to retain their intermediate status. St Brigids by 3.


In the Junior A championship wins for St Michael's,Ballinameen,St Ronans,Western Gaels,Pearses,Kilglass"
Oran v Elphin - Oran

Glaveys v Roscommon Gaels - Gaels

Strokestown v Pearses - Pearses (though wouldn't put it past Strokestown to get a result either)

Tulsk v Brigids - Brigids

Western Gaels v St Faltheachs - Faithleachs

Clann v Boyle - Clann


Intermediate

Fuerty v Creggs - Draw

Croans v Kilmore - Croans

Clann B v Kilbride - Clann

Castlerea v Eire Og - Castlerea

St. Dominic's v St Aidans - Dominics

Shannon Gaels v St Brigids - Brigids


What has happened Kilbride? You would think they would have enough to keep safe in any relegation play off but hard to believe they are potentially knocking around the bottom tier of intermediate.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 330 - 30/08/2022 10:01:02    2439117

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Replying To Tarismelting22:  "What will we do so have no manager for the year and wait and appoint next year - from seeing the matches over the last few weeks i dont think there is many other than what is in with the county that are good enough tbh"
Absolutely some very poor fare.
No sign of 3 or 4 good standard backs with height and speed.
Might be better off a candidate didn't go to some of the matches or he would run hopefully improves now as players start to return.

OhtobeARossie (Roscommon) - Posts: 1689 - 30/08/2022 13:42:53    2439156

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Why are we producing so few (or none) decent defenders?
Is it lack of coaching or just prioritising "runny/passy" attacking wing back types in both club and county?

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 509 - 30/08/2022 15:31:24    2439175

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "Why are we producing so few (or none) decent defenders?
Is it lack of coaching or just prioritising "runny/passy" attacking wing back types in both club and county?"
Haha, runny/passy is right! You'd wonder, is it a development issue?

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 330 - 30/08/2022 21:37:49    2439208

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "Why are we producing so few (or none) decent defenders?
Is it lack of coaching or just prioritising "runny/passy" attacking wing back types in both club and county?"
Nothing wrong with having strong athletic ("runny/passy") backs as long as they can read the game well, can man mark, are strong in the tackle and have a good engine. The names Lee Keegan and Carl Lacey come to mind.
Having said all that, the last time the Rossies played in a senior All Ireland Final our full back line was Harry Keegan, Pat Lindsay and Gerry Connellan and the team only conceded 1-9 to a fantastic Kerry team. You would not get past them three lads too easy, and they did not concede that many frees either. If it was a free, you can be sure it was hard earned.

letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 96 - 31/08/2022 08:40:55    2439213

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Replying To letsgetgoing:  "Nothing wrong with having strong athletic ("runny/passy") backs as long as they can read the game well, can man mark, are strong in the tackle and have a good engine. The names Lee Keegan and Carl Lacey come to mind.
Having said all that, the last time the Rossies played in a senior All Ireland Final our full back line was Harry Keegan, Pat Lindsay and Gerry Connellan and the team only conceded 1-9 to a fantastic Kerry team. You would not get past them three lads too easy, and they did not concede that many frees either. If it was a free, you can be sure it was hard earned."
Unfortunately, we only scored 1-6 that day. Harry Keegan was as good a right full back as ever played the game and Pat Lindsay was a teak tough and outstanding full back. Subsequently, Pat Doory was a good full back but Roscommon have not had a natural full back for some time. Brian Stack is converted really. We're short at the back as we all know. Pity because we have good forwards.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 1831 - 31/08/2022 11:58:36    2439237

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What was the story at the minor match last night in Roscommon? Saw the video and it didn't even look a free so no idea why the manager was so aggrieved with the referee. Appreciate people like this are involved in every club in the country but that is a shocking video and a disgrace to Roscommon football.

Monaghansclown (Monaghan) - Posts: 136 - 01/09/2022 10:24:47    2439279

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Replying To Monaghansclown:  "What was the story at the minor match last night in Roscommon? Saw the video and it didn't even look a free so no idea why the manager was so aggrieved with the referee. Appreciate people like this are involved in every club in the country but that is a shocking video and a disgrace to Roscommon football."
what happened in the game is irrelevant. that man should be arrested and be in court for assault

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 2864 - 01/09/2022 10:43:16    2439281

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Replying To KillingFields:  "what happened in the game is irrelevant. that man should be arrested and be in court for assault"
Where did I say what happened in the game was relevant? It's a disgrace I don't care how good or bad any decision is that someone behaves like that and in front of kids too. Have clubs not got a vetting process for putting underage managers in place? Looks like anyone can take over a team now and take out their frustration during the game on anyone that will listen to them. Ban for the club should be given as well as lifetime ban for the individual.

Monaghansclown (Monaghan) - Posts: 136 - 01/09/2022 11:19:18    2439287

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Replying To Monaghansclown:  "Where did I say what happened in the game was relevant? It's a disgrace I don't care how good or bad any decision is that someone behaves like that and in front of kids too. Have clubs not got a vetting process for putting underage managers in place? Looks like anyone can take over a team now and take out their frustration during the game on anyone that will listen to them. Ban for the club should be given as well as lifetime ban for the individual."
I was simply saying what happened was irrelevant. Even if it was shown that it was the worst of worst bias and it was coverage of a full game of a referee blatantly screwing over that coaches team then that behavior was still out of order and the man in question should still be in court for assault.

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 2864 - 01/09/2022 11:36:21    2439291

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Replying To Monaghansclown:  "What was the story at the minor match last night in Roscommon? Saw the video and it didn't even look a free so no idea why the manager was so aggrieved with the referee. Appreciate people like this are involved in every club in the country but that is a shocking video and a disgrace to Roscommon football."
The story was that a man who gave up his time, as he has done for years in this county, so that young lads could play a game of football was assaulted by a thug, presumably because he didn't agree with a decision in the game.

D.Hyde (Roscommon) - Posts: 59 - 01/09/2022 11:48:23    2439293

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This is a very serious matter..no one can get away with what this individual has done..I won't pass many more comments for fear that it becomes a criminal matter..not sure about the club ban,this would stop all the players from playing who have nothing to do with this stupidity..it is I'm my opinion a very serious asssult..I take it apart from local Gaa investigation that gardai have to be involved??what i can't understand is no one seemed to tackle the individual who seems to have been involved..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 1780 - 01/09/2022 12:02:50    2439296

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Replying To Monaghansclown:  "What was the story at the minor match last night in Roscommon? Saw the video and it didn't even look a free so no idea why the manager was so aggrieved with the referee. Appreciate people like this are involved in every club in the country but that is a shocking video and a disgrace to Roscommon football."
It sure is a disgrace. For a referee to be layed out on the field with a box is a pure disgrace... the background to the act itself is irrelevant. The gas thing is most of the 'abusers' are cowards who wouldn't have the balls to get in the middle of a field and officiate a game themselves.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 453 - 01/09/2022 13:00:41    2439304

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After a thorough investigation Tyrone and Armagh will probably get a 6 month ban.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9528 - 01/09/2022 13:13:03    2439307

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The GAA has always had double standards of hypocrisy when it comes to discipline matters.
Appeal everything, no one saw anything, red cards overturned at the drop of a hat etc.
Anyone interfering with a ref or other match official should be a lifetime ban.
Club involved should get a heavy fine and don't use their pitch as a neutral venue for a number of years.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 509 - 01/09/2022 13:15:53    2439308

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "This is a very serious matter..no one can get away with what this individual has done..I won't pass many more comments for fear that it becomes a criminal matter..not sure about the club ban,this would stop all the players from playing who have nothing to do with this stupidity..it is I'm my opinion a very serious asssult..I take it apart from local Gaa investigation that gardai have to be involved??what i can't understand is no one seemed to tackle the individual who seems to have been involved.."
Disagree with you here re club ban. Clubs are responsible for putting underage coaches in place and monitoring their behaviour. If they don't do this then they should face a ban. If GAA make an example of this club it will make other clubs sit up and take notice.

Monaghansclown (Monaghan) - Posts: 136 - 01/09/2022 13:35:32    2439310

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Replying To Monaghansclown:  "Disagree with you here re club ban. Clubs are responsible for putting underage coaches in place and monitoring their behaviour. If they don't do this then they should face a ban. If GAA make an example of this club it will make other clubs sit up and take notice."
Should be a criminal matter. Assaulting another human being.....life ban too

greatgalway (Galway) - Posts: 29 - 01/09/2022 14:02:23    2439313

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If it transpires that what we think happened actually happened then the man should of course be given a lifetime ban, and the club should be banned from all fundraising and competition for 12 months. Sounds harsh, but a message needs to be sent to every club to end the culture of abusing volunteers. No club would ever take a chance with Johnny-down-the-road who "loves his club" but roars abuse at referees, the opposition, and his own players every match.

SurelyToGod (Donegal) - Posts: 252 - 01/09/2022 15:42:40    2439331

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "The GAA has always had double standards of hypocrisy when it comes to discipline matters.
Appeal everything, no one saw anything, red cards overturned at the drop of a hat etc.
Anyone interfering with a ref or other match official should be a lifetime ban.
Club involved should get a heavy fine and don't use their pitch as a neutral venue for a number of years."
Agreed, needs to be repercussions for the club as well. Holding both the individual and club to account is the only way there will be progress. Very similar to what happened with Mountbellew last year just the outcome was more severe for the official.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 330 - 01/09/2022 16:00:27    2439334

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