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Not sure Flanagan would be our ideal manager. Good club and football man, but limited at inter county level and has already managed there with no notable results. We need a man with modern ideas to cut it at this level. Hopefully Longford will take him and that will solve the problem. ideally, we will have some choice in who we choose and not just pick up some journey man.

Rossie4ever22 (Longford) - Posts: 1 - 24/08/2022 14:03:33    2438560

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Replying To endgame:  "Mayo are always charged meeting Galway. There was only 1 point in it at the end of their championship clash in Castlebar last April. I agree that the Roscommon county Board need to get this appointment right. There's potential in this Roscommon team but time isn't infinite and both Mayo and Galway will be tough next Summer. Galway will want to go one step further than this year and Mayo will get a bounce under Kevin McStay. I do wonder however with Mayo are there too many big hitters in the back room team. Rochford, Buckley and McHale. Not sure that will work."
I did wonder the same, that's a lot of cooks in the kitchen.

Just read in the Irish News that Jason Sherlock and his assistant pulled out of the running for the Monaghan job after being interviewed last week for reasons unknown.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 330 - 24/08/2022 14:10:52    2438562

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Replying To MachaireConnacht:  "I did wonder the same, that's a lot of cooks in the kitchen.

Just read in the Irish News that Jason Sherlock and his assistant pulled out of the running for the Monaghan job after being interviewed last week for reasons unknown."
I wonder would the county board consider Jason Sherlock? Not sure how great he'd be either but you'd have to imagine Sherlock would have learned loads from his time within the Dublin setup under Jim Gavin. I just don't think Pat Flanagan is up to the task. Granted he did very well with Pearses but inter county football is a different animal again and I just feel maybe he's too old school. Wally Burke from Faithleachs could be a wild card option for the job. He did very well with Faithleachs last year and also worked well with John Evans a number of years ago. He's still young and would have a good way with the players. I just find it a bit worrying that Flanagan's name is the only one supposedly put forward at this stage.

ComainRos (Roscommon) - Posts: 63 - 24/08/2022 16:35:11    2438584

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Replying To ComainRos:  "I wonder would the county board consider Jason Sherlock? Not sure how great he'd be either but you'd have to imagine Sherlock would have learned loads from his time within the Dublin setup under Jim Gavin. I just don't think Pat Flanagan is up to the task. Granted he did very well with Pearses but inter county football is a different animal again and I just feel maybe he's too old school. Wally Burke from Faithleachs could be a wild card option for the job. He did very well with Faithleachs last year and also worked well with John Evans a number of years ago. He's still young and would have a good way with the players. I just find it a bit worrying that Flanagan's name is the only one supposedly put forward at this stage."
It is worrying as you say but hopefully the County Board are doing something in the background that we don't know about. In them we trust.!

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 1831 - 24/08/2022 18:25:45    2438595

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Unless there is going to be a financial package put together we will be dealing with the normal run of the mill candidates including Fergal O Donnell and Nigel Dineen.

SmokieRoss (Roscommon) - Posts: 213 - 23/08/2022 18:42:39

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Not saying either will or should be in the running but run of the mill? Nigel Dineen led Roscommon to a couple of Connacht U21 titles in 3 years and reached two AI finals losing to star studded Dublin teams name another Roscommon manager that had such successful period for your county in the last 30 years? Fergal O'Donnell is the last Roscommon All-Ireland winning manager and won a Connacht senior title with a struggling Roscommon team.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 2948 - 24/08/2022 18:25:54    2438596

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Replying To crafty:  "With McStay in Mayo and Flanagan in Roscommon it must be happy days for Galway."
Happy days….Ye would want to find another scoring forward to go with Shane Walsh if ye are to go one step further in 2023.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11031 - 24/08/2022 19:21:23    2438601

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Replying To Gaa_lover:  "Unless there is going to be a financial package put together we will be dealing with the normal run of the mill candidates including Fergal O Donnell and Nigel Dineen.

SmokieRoss (Roscommon) - Posts: 213 - 23/08/2022 18:42:39

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Not saying either will or should be in the running but run of the mill? Nigel Dineen led Roscommon to a couple of Connacht U21 titles in 3 years and reached two AI finals losing to star studded Dublin teams name another Roscommon manager that had such successful period for your county in the last 30 years? Fergal O'Donnell is the last Roscommon All-Ireland winning manager and won a Connacht senior title with a struggling Roscommon team."
When was the last time Dineen managed anyone? From what I hear castlerea st Kevin's were in desperate need for a manager and he wasn't interested in taking on his own club with some brilliant young players coming through so I doubt he will be interested in Roscommon job. As for Fergal O Donnell he's really struggled at the last few jobs so we need to forget what people have done 10 to 15 years ago. Personally I'd love someone like Sherlock for 3/4 years with a strong backroom team. It's something different and I just have a feeling whoever gets him will be lucky.

dave1988 (Roscommon) - Posts: 893 - 25/08/2022 09:34:09    2438619

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Replying To dave1988:  "When was the last time Dineen managed anyone? From what I hear castlerea st Kevin's were in desperate need for a manager and he wasn't interested in taking on his own club with some brilliant young players coming through so I doubt he will be interested in Roscommon job. As for Fergal O Donnell he's really struggled at the last few jobs so we need to forget what people have done 10 to 15 years ago. Personally I'd love someone like Sherlock for 3/4 years with a strong backroom team. It's something different and I just have a feeling whoever gets him will be lucky."
Wonder why he pulled out of Monaghan at the last minute?
Expenses?
All we know about our "process" is Pat Flanagan was the only Club nomination and Co Board won't be making any comment till the "process" is complete.
I presume the Committee are approaching various individuals?

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 509 - 25/08/2022 10:58:05    2438639

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "Wonder why he pulled out of Monaghan at the last minute?
Expenses?
All we know about our "process" is Pat Flanagan was the only Club nomination and Co Board won't be making any comment till the "process" is complete.
I presume the Committee are approaching various individuals?"
I'd imagine he went in and said what he needs and who he wants as his backroom team and Monaghan county board could do it for him. For Roscommon this is a massive appointment and I bloody hope we don't just go for the easiest option and cheapest option. We have some very good young lads coming up when you think of Cahal Heneghan Shane Cunnane Keith Doyle Ben O'Carroll Daire Cregg Collin Walsh and few more. We need to go big or forget about it next year because without a proper set up with top class coaching especially in defense we will be hammered back to division 2.

dave1988 (Roscommon) - Posts: 893 - 25/08/2022 12:06:42    2438652

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Replying To dave1988:  "When was the last time Dineen managed anyone? From what I hear castlerea st Kevin's were in desperate need for a manager and he wasn't interested in taking on his own club with some brilliant young players coming through so I doubt he will be interested in Roscommon job. As for Fergal O Donnell he's really struggled at the last few jobs so we need to forget what people have done 10 to 15 years ago. Personally I'd love someone like Sherlock for 3/4 years with a strong backroom team. It's something different and I just have a feeling whoever gets him will be lucky."
My point is regards to the run of mill comment. Doesn't say a lot if you can't show a bit more respect to both who have given loads of service and success to Roscommon football as players and managers over the years.

On Jason Sherlock he's never had outright inter County managerial position before and can imagine he doesn't come cheap. Is a rookie manager learning on the job what Roscommon required as they look to remain in Div 1?

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 2948 - 25/08/2022 13:57:53    2438667

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Replying To Gaa_lover:  "My point is regards to the run of mill comment. Doesn't say a lot if you can't show a bit more respect to both who have given loads of service and success to Roscommon football as players and managers over the years.

On Jason Sherlock he's never had outright inter County managerial position before and can imagine he doesn't come cheap. Is a rookie manager learning on the job what Roscommon required as they look to remain in Div 1?"
Never said I don't have respect for both managers that done great things for Roscommon football 10+ years ago. I know Fergal personally and he's a great football man but that doesn't change my opinion.

dave1988 (Roscommon) - Posts: 893 - 25/08/2022 14:27:07    2438672

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I see Malachy O'Rourke is in for the Donegal job. I think he'd be a good fit for Roscommon.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 1831 - 25/08/2022 14:58:35    2438677

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Replying To endgame:  "I see Malachy O'Rourke is in for the Donegal job. I think he'd be a good fit for Roscommon."
Donegal club nominated him, none of our clubs thought of doing that when our county board sent emails asking for nominations, many didn't even respond.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3309 - 25/08/2022 15:49:11    2438690

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Replying To Gaa_lover:  "My point is regards to the run of mill comment. Doesn't say a lot if you can't show a bit more respect to both who have given loads of service and success to Roscommon football as players and managers over the years.

On Jason Sherlock he's never had outright inter County managerial position before and can imagine he doesn't come cheap. Is a rookie manager learning on the job what Roscommon required as they look to remain in Div 1?"
The fact that Jason Sherlock is being touted around for any inter county job says it all about the state of the GAA at the moment. He hasn't managed any club in Dublin (that I'm aware of) and was a member of the backroom staff ... a 30 odd strong backroom staff... If this is the best available, Roscommon would be better off appointing a local management team and save the money to invest in the grassroots game.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 453 - 25/08/2022 16:47:06    2438699

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MOR was approached by a person outside the committee and stated he had no interest in the position. The amount of counties looking still is alarming and it goes to show how covid has altered the landscape for players and coaches/managers. The amount of time involved for both, COVID has highlighted a life outside GAA while still having an interest in it but at a manageable level.

It will be interesting tonsee how the minor and u20 teams get in in their search for managers or is that already sorted.

SmokieRoss (Roscommon) - Posts: 248 - 25/08/2022 16:58:10    2438704

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Replying To Square_B:  "The fact that Jason Sherlock is being touted around for any inter county job says it all about the state of the GAA at the moment. He hasn't managed any club in Dublin (that I'm aware of) and was a member of the backroom staff ... a 30 odd strong backroom staff... If this is the best available, Roscommon would be better off appointing a local management team and save the money to invest in the grassroots game."
Says the man from the County who appointed Andy Moran......

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 509 - 25/08/2022 17:56:29    2438708

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "Says the man from the County who appointed Andy Moran......"
Who brought in one of the best coaches there is around with him, who was in the running for mayo senior job and won all Ireland at u21 level. But don't let that get in the way of your little dig there. Thank you.

howdareu (USA) - Posts: 220 - 26/08/2022 10:53:53    2438735

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Replying To howdareu:  "Who brought in one of the best coaches there is around with him, who was in the running for mayo senior job and won all Ireland at u21 level. But don't let that get in the way of your little dig there. Thank you."
I don't know why Michael Solan is second to Andy Moran. Solan should be off doing his own thing as manager. He's a good manager but not sure on coaching side of things.

dave1988 (Roscommon) - Posts: 893 - 26/08/2022 15:01:28    2438762

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So the latest news in the pubs in Carrick last night is that Don Connellan is going to be proposed as manager at next county board meeting for the clubs to accept or reject. No experience at county level I am informed. Is that a negative?. Played for Roscommon alright but that has little bearing on whether he can cut it as a manager at this level first time around. Currently involved with NUIG and a club in Galway I believe.

Good appointment for Longford I note in Paddy Christie and I see Dessie Sloyan manager iof sligo u20s this year on his backroom ticket also. Jack Cooney leaving Westmeath also sees another county similar to ourselves looking for a manger out of the same limited pool. I thought Christie would have been a good fit for Ross along with a relatively fresh coach like Sloyan or Connellan.

Roscommon were lucky to get Cunningham last minute the last time around and he got them out of a tight slot as options were exhausted at that stage. Dublin ladies county board meeting tomrrow night amd Mick Bohans name is nominated for the position of ladies senior manager again. I note his counterpart in Meath has stepped down after winning back to back All Ireland senior titles.

After the COE debacle and the hundreds of thousands lost on same and we no nearer to having a base for all our teams the pressure is really on the county board.

SmokieRoss (Roscommon) - Posts: 248 - 28/08/2022 10:10:10    2438869

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "Says the man from the County who appointed Andy Moran......"
I've been fairly damming of Moran as well. Unfortunately I'm not on the auld selection committee ya know?

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 453 - 28/08/2022 10:48:21    2438873

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