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Candidates for the U20 job are getting interviewed this weekend and appointment expected to be made soon after. Enda Nugent remains the front runner.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 4043 - 02/09/2022 21:30:40    2439485

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Replying To SmokieRoss:  "The end of a tumultuous week for Roscommon GAA. First of all hopefully the referee is okay and makes a full recovery and hopefully does return to reffing.

Secondly no abuse of any official is acceptable and the person involved will face a long ban. Whether there is any additional legal matters that should be left to the authorities to deal with. The amount of coverage it received was staggering considering we have seen similar events elsewhere and not a quarter of the coverage nor national media coverage like this received. The amount of fake news, rumours and misinformation circulated and anyone who posted or shared videos is as guilty as anyone regarding that side of things. Our local journalists or radio station certainly jumped the gun without doing their due diligence it appears.

In addition our county board were incompetent at best and let the story get ahead of them running wild. A statement in font of the cameras or microphones yesterday morning would have killed a lot of the rumours by saying they were currently investigating an incident and people should refrain from posting or circulating videos until the full facts are known. This morning they should have issued a statement locally that they were engaging with refs to see could the weekend action take place. Personally I think it's best there is a bit of breathing room for refs and players.

Back to the football scene and it looks like every county is getting sorted bar Roscommon. Media repirt tonight that Don Connellan is now the No.1 candidate. No management experience at county level whatsoever and I see monaghan players rejected Ger Brennan for that reason. Apparently they are favouring a local man who was involved with u20s past few years.

I'm surprised Pat Flanagan has actually left his name in the hat at this stage given the media article on Don."
"The amount of coverage it received was staggering considering we have seen similar events elsewhere and not a quarter of the coverage nor national media coverage like this received."

"Similar events"??? So, tell us all when and where these other referees have been laid out cold on the pitch and have had to have been admitted to hospital after the events?

The media and every sane person in the country is right in highlighting and publicizing this absolute despicable act of thuggery that happened in Roscommon, your county, and as far as I am aware has not happened anywhere else in all of Gaeldom!

Face up to the consequences now!

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2221 - 02/09/2022 21:59:49    2439493

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Replying To royaldunne:  "No matches this weekend. Fair play to the refs. They had to take a stand"
Would you have been in favour of a country wide ban? Every adult game in the country called off yesterday morning?

Rossie2022 (Roscommon) - Posts: 26 - 03/09/2022 09:35:31    2439503

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Replying To foreveryoung:  ""The amount of coverage it received was staggering considering we have seen similar events elsewhere and not a quarter of the coverage nor national media coverage like this received."

"Similar events"??? So, tell us all when and where these other referees have been laid out cold on the pitch and have had to have been admitted to hospital after the events?

The media and every sane person in the country is right in highlighting and publicizing this absolute despicable act of thuggery that happened in Roscommon, your county, and as far as I am aware has not happened anywhere else in all of Gaeldom!

Face up to the consequences now!"
Absolutely there should be severe consequences but the video is misleading in that the ref was not attacked after the piece where the man throws something on the ground and walks on to the field. Everyone thinks he walked on and decked him but that wasn't the case. Regardless, hands on the official should be dealt with severely and I hope the ref makes a full recovery.


On the management front, I heard Pat Flanagan is now out of the running.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1000 - 03/09/2022 09:44:50    2439506

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Replying To foreveryoung:  ""The amount of coverage it received was staggering considering we have seen similar events elsewhere and not a quarter of the coverage nor national media coverage like this received."

"Similar events"??? So, tell us all when and where these other referees have been laid out cold on the pitch and have had to have been admitted to hospital after the events?

The media and every sane person in the country is right in highlighting and publicizing this absolute despicable act of thuggery that happened in Roscommon, your county, and as far as I am aware has not happened anywhere else in all of Gaeldom!

Face up to the consequences now!"
Not often but it did happen elsewhere it was just fortunate an official never had a serious injury up until now. Mountbellew players did the same thing last year.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1000 - 03/09/2022 10:58:09    2439511

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Replying To Rossie2022:  "Would you have been in favour of a country wide ban? Every adult game in the country called off yesterday morning?"
If a ref was hit in every other county like the ref in Roscommon, then yes. If not, no.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2221 - 03/09/2022 11:10:59    2439512

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "If a ref was hit in every other county like the ref in Roscommon, then yes. If not, no."
Not sure he was hit. Think it was a push but totally unacceptable and the person responsible needs to be held accountable. Let's hope there isn't a repeat any time in any county. The actions of Roscommon referees this weekend are totally understandable.Separately a lot of the Manager speculation seems to be focussed now on Don Connellan. As posted here Pat Flanagan seems to be out of the running if he was ever in it.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2406 - 03/09/2022 12:32:55    2439521

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Replying To MachaireConnacht:  "Not often but it did happen elsewhere it was just fortunate an official never had a serious injury up until now. Mountbellew players did the same thing last year."
You"re hardly comparing apples with apples there. The mountbellew incident was completely different . Wrong too. But on a completely different level in so many ways.

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 982 - 03/09/2022 13:44:54    2439527

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "If a ref was hit in every other county like the ref in Roscommon, then yes. If not, no."
But we are being told it's a GAA-wide issue, so therefore why not discommode every adult player and club in the country?

And yes, refs have been hit / assaulted in other counties.

Or is it a case that "I fully agree with protest when it doesn't affect my county"…?

Rossie2022 (Roscommon) - Posts: 26 - 03/09/2022 14:57:45    2439536

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What happened at the end of the Mountbellew v Pearses game is one of reason why even before that incident in St Aidans that refs needed to take a stand

One of our long time refs Brendan Healy has spoken out

"the message is getting lost on people who think this is solely about last Wednesday, it's not"

"it's about the culture that exists nationwide that allows for referee abuse and intimidation to be in the norm"

"If it saves one referee from being physically or verbally abused then it's been a success, if not then i don't know where the GAA is going"

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 4043 - 03/09/2022 15:24:00    2439542

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Replying To foreveryoung:  ""The amount of coverage it received was staggering considering we have seen similar events elsewhere and not a quarter of the coverage nor national media coverage like this received."

"Similar events"??? So, tell us all when and where these other referees have been laid out cold on the pitch and have had to have been admitted to hospital after the events?

The media and every sane person in the country is right in highlighting and publicizing this absolute despicable act of thuggery that happened in Roscommon, your county, and as far as I am aware has not happened anywhere else in all of Gaeldom!

Face up to the consequences now!"
Hardly ever agree with you. But you spot on here

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 03/09/2022 16:00:42    2439544

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Replying To Rossie2022:  "Would you have been in favour of a country wide ban? Every adult game in the country called off yesterday morning?"
I actually don't think it would be a bad idea. Verbals is one thing. This is a entirely different scenario. To walk onto pitch and do leave a ref unconscious and needing a stay in hospital, refs within Roscommon had no other option. Would you not agree ?

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 03/09/2022 16:02:34    2439545

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Replying To The_analyser:  "What happened at the end of the Mountbellew v Pearses game is one of reason why even before that incident in St Aidans that refs needed to take a stand

One of our long time refs Brendan Healy has spoken out

"the message is getting lost on people who think this is solely about last Wednesday, it's not"

"it's about the culture that exists nationwide that allows for referee abuse and intimidation to be in the norm"

"If it saves one referee from being physically or verbally abused then it's been a success, if not then i don't know where the GAA is going""
Please stop trying to equate this issue with the mountbellee pearses issue. I fully agree that a few mountbellew players were badly wrong and the punishment they received was not severe enough. But to equate that incident with this one or to suggest that it was some form of a precursor to it is not fair. Deal with the roscommon issue and stop trying to deflect blame by pointing fingers at other counties.

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 982 - 03/09/2022 18:28:54    2439568

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Replying To Rossie2022:  "But we are being told it's a GAA-wide issue, so therefore why not discommode every adult player and club in the country?

And yes, refs have been hit / assaulted in other counties.

Or is it a case that "I fully agree with protest when it doesn't affect my county"…?"
Classic whataboutery... referees aren't being assaulted in
every county every day of the week... this happened in YOUR county and the referees in YOUR county have took a stand to what happened. Own it.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1303 - 03/09/2022 18:58:55    2439571

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Replying To anotheralias:  "Please stop trying to equate this issue with the mountbellee pearses issue. I fully agree that a few mountbellew players were badly wrong and the punishment they received was not severe enough. But to equate that incident with this one or to suggest that it was some form of a precursor to it is not fair. Deal with the roscommon issue and stop trying to deflect blame by pointing fingers at other counties."
A Roscommon issue.? What happened in Ballyforan could happen anywhere in any county. There's usually some idiot on the sideline.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2406 - 03/09/2022 19:05:23    2439572

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Replying To anotheralias:  "Please stop trying to equate this issue with the mountbellee pearses issue. I fully agree that a few mountbellew players were badly wrong and the punishment they received was not severe enough. But to equate that incident with this one or to suggest that it was some form of a precursor to it is not fair. Deal with the roscommon issue and stop trying to deflect blame by pointing fingers at other counties."
Roscommon issue is well dealed with better than most counties. It's a nationwide issue if you don't realise that i don't know what to say. The actions of the Mountbellew players is well worth comparing regardless of how much you are trying to claim otherwises.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 4043 - 03/09/2022 19:12:27    2439573

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Replying To Square_B:  "Classic whataboutery... referees aren't being assaulted in
every county every day of the week... this happened in YOUR county and the referees in YOUR county have took a stand to what happened. Own it."
You need google the definition of whatsboutery

Rossie2022 (Roscommon) - Posts: 26 - 03/09/2022 19:27:36    2439577

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Replying To royaldunne:  "I actually don't think it would be a bad idea. Verbals is one thing. This is a entirely different scenario. To walk onto pitch and do leave a ref unconscious and needing a stay in hospital, refs within Roscommon had no other option. Would you not agree ?"
If other counties were happy to:
1. Accept representation from a handful of refs who didn't bother consulting with the rest of refs in the county,
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2. Not be willing to wait for a disciplinary process take place and appropriate sanctions be applied,
And
3. Wait until less than 6 hours before championship games to call them off
…then yeah, I'd agree with that

Rossie2022 (Roscommon) - Posts: 26 - 03/09/2022 19:28:46    2439578

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Replying To The_analyser:  "What happened at the end of the Mountbellew v Pearses game is one of reason why even before that incident in St Aidans that refs needed to take a stand

One of our long time refs Brendan Healy has spoken out

"the message is getting lost on people who think this is solely about last Wednesday, it's not"

"it's about the culture that exists nationwide that allows for referee abuse and intimidation to be in the norm"

"If it saves one referee from being physically or verbally abused then it's been a success, if not then i don't know where the GAA is going""
The could have taken a stand after the McStay incident in 2018. An inter county game on tv.

giveitlong (Galway) - Posts: 1278 - 03/09/2022 19:57:51    2439583

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Replying To Square_B:  "Classic whataboutery... referees aren't being assaulted in
every county every day of the week... this happened in YOUR county and the referees in YOUR county have took a stand to what happened. Own it."
In the last 2 weeks there have been incidents of referees in 4 counties being assaulted and a further case where a referee was followed from the ground and threatened

reffingmad (Roscommon) - Posts: 378 - 03/09/2022 20:23:28    2439586

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