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the people on here looking for davy firz , be careful what you wish for nothing but drama with him . james skehill said on OTB the other night that he was chatting to a former clare player recently and clare lad said the biggest loss in clare was paul kinnerk. that says it all.

munsterchamps (Limerick) - Posts: 960 - 28/08/2021 13:49:50    2375411

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Hope we get a new manager here in Wexford soon. The rumour mill is just getting stupid down here:-)

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 3341 - 28/08/2021 17:33:40    2375503

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Replying To Viking66:  "Hope we get a new manager here in Wexford soon. The rumour mill is just getting stupid down here:-)"
Hopefully and there is no reason yere fortunes can't improve. A new voice. added players and a different approach might just do it. I don't think it will be from the lack of effort with a good leader/manager.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 1644 - 29/08/2021 23:21:14    2376217

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Replying To Viking66:  "Hope we get a new manager here in Wexford soon. The rumour mill is just getting stupid down here:-)"
Is there any viable options within wexford?

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1391 - 30/08/2021 13:12:50    2376384

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Replying To Bon:  "Is there any viable options within wexford?"
Not really but that doesn't stop every name under the sun being mentioned.
I suppose Jason Ryan is a de facto Wexford man. Others mentioned include Joe Fortune who had good success with Ballyboden.
But there must have been 20 names mentioned before our match at the weekend!

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1377 - 31/08/2021 15:52:05    2376800

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Would love to see Davy pitch up in Laois/Westmeath and see what he can do there

If he could get one of those to a Leinster final he would never let anyone hear the end of it

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 879 - 01/09/2021 03:01:30    2376920

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "Would love to see Davy pitch up in Laois/Westmeath and see what he can do there

If he could get one of those to a Leinster final he would never let anyone hear the end of it"
He wouldn't have a hope in hell of getting either to a Leinster title!
No offence to either. Davy knew he was taking over a team on the up in Wexford. He had seen 1st hand what they were capable of when his All-Ireland champions were turned over, and then 3 U21 titles were annexed as well as championship wins over Cork, Waterford and Clare.
There was enough there for him to see Wexford could do something. And we so nearly did.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1377 - 01/09/2021 16:16:57    2377056

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Two questions (1) Do you really thing modern day Tipp people would want either of those gentlemen, in those roles, at the present time. and (2) have you really the best interests of Tipperary Hurling at heart, when you propose those two candidates?"
To answer your 2 questions, I'd say 'no' to the first and a definite 'no' to the second. Id like to see Davy get the job because he'd cause consternation in Tipperary and it would be funny to watch. He'd set them back a decade.

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1572 - 01/09/2021 16:40:33    2377064

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Replying To bloodyban:  "To answer your 2 questions, I'd say 'no' to the first and a definite 'no' to the second. Id like to see Davy get the job because he'd cause consternation in Tipperary and it would be funny to watch. He'd set them back a decade."
Eddie Brennan was on Off the ball a few weeks ago and was asked if Eddie would be interested in the Tipp job.

Good idea he said, I will bring them down from the inside.

Can't see Brennan or Davy being considered.

carlovia (None) - Posts: 1350 - 01/09/2021 18:35:50    2377092

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Replying To bloodyban:  "To answer your 2 questions, I'd say 'no' to the first and a definite 'no' to the second. Id like to see Davy get the job because he'd cause consternation in Tipperary and it would be funny to watch. He'd set them back a decade."
Tipp would not touch him with a 40 foot pole. Davy has a good c.v. and I don't think anyone can deny that but unfortunately he is toxic. Tipp will only employ from within and will be there or there about because of what they have available. I think Wexford is a tricky one. Accepting that Davy has made them better the new person coming in needs to be another step up. Like Waterford despite having good former players a manager from within is difficult to find. Derek had his attributes and certainly Michael Ryan was an accomplished manager. However the players dealt unceremoniously with getting him dumped. One year and on loss as he was building, but out.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 1644 - 01/09/2021 21:30:05    2377124

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Whats the Limerick posters opinions on potential changes of their setup? Two people who are consistently mentioned are Currid and Kinnerk. Coud Caroline Currid be such a big loss? She has some CV behind her at this stage. I was lucky enough to be part of a team a fair few years ago now who she gave an hour or so too and she definitely changed my mind on how important she could be to a team. When Tipp failed to follow up All Irelands successes we often her of management or coaches who left who were so vital to the setup. Without being part of the panel we don't know but could she be a huge loss and irreplaceable in Limerick?
Also is there any hope Kinnerk might take a few years off?!!

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 3124 - 02/09/2021 17:22:37    2377321

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Davy fav for Galway now?

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 3124 - 02/09/2021 18:13:10    2377336

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Shane O Neill did the right thing to resign. Giving him a one year extension would have been no use to him or to Galway hurling. We have a rebuilding job ahead so the manager in charge next year needs to be at the helm for the next 3 years.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1617 - 02/09/2021 18:34:41    2377343

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "Shane O Neill did the right thing to resign. Giving him a one year extension would have been no use to him or to Galway hurling. We have a rebuilding job ahead so the manager in charge next year needs to be at the helm for the next 3 years."
He achieved nothing in the two years. At least he realised that unlike the Galway football Manager.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 1564 - 02/09/2021 19:10:02    2377352

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "Shane O Neill did the right thing to resign. Giving him a one year extension would have been no use to him or to Galway hurling. We have a rebuilding job ahead so the manager in charge next year needs to be at the helm for the next 3 years."
Yes to survive and be successful your trajectory needs to be up. You are done if it falls off from the previous year. Liam Cahill was coming from the bottom and climbed both years.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 1644 - 02/09/2021 19:53:09    2377367

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In last year's championship, Galway hammered Wexford, beat Tipperary in the quarter-final and pushed Limerick all the way in the semi-final - they were still leading late in the second-half and Limerick eventually only pulled ahead in injury time and won by 3 points. This year Galway were joint winners of the League. Yes, the 2021 championship campaign was a complete disaster but prior to that, he had been doing quite well. If his entire tenure can be written off as having "achieved nothing", then the same goes for pretty much every manager who did not win an all-Ireland during his time in charge.

Gaillimh_Abu (Galway) - Posts: 908 - 02/09/2021 20:07:10    2377373

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Replying To Bon:  "Is there any viable options within wexford?"
Looking like JJ Doyle is favourite at the minute. He is probably the most experienced and successful Wexford born candidate on balance. Won Camogie all Ireland's at senior and intermediate and u21 Leinsters. Has been on Davys management team the last few years also and like him or loathe him Davys the only manager ever to have won the Fitzgibbon cup, Munster and Leinster titles and the All Ireland and League. It's often said that Paul Kinnerk won that all Ireland for Clare in light of his achievements with Limerick since, but did anyone stop and think to themselves that maybe Kinnerk learned something from Davy too?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 3341 - 02/09/2021 20:40:23    2377388

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Replying To Canuck:  "Hopefully and there is no reason yere fortunes can't improve. A new voice. added players and a different approach might just do it. I don't think it will be from the lack of effort with a good leader/manager."
Not many ready made senior players around the county who werent already approached and didn't want to commit to the intercounty lifestyle. Some fringe players who got gametime in the league last year and this are improving year on year. A few good up and coming young players ok but probably not physically big enough yet for modern intercounty. From watching our minors and u20/21s for alot of years now we are usually smaller on average, and not just in height, than the team we are up against.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 3341 - 02/09/2021 20:46:16    2377389

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Replying To Canuck:  "Hopefully and there is no reason yere fortunes can't improve. A new voice. added players and a different approach might just do it. I don't think it will be from the lack of effort with a good leader/manager."
Not many ready made senior players around the county who werent already approached and didn't want to commit to the intercounty lifestyle. Some fringe players who got gametime in the league last year and this are improving year on year. A few good up and coming young players ok but probably not physically big enough yet for modern intercounty. From watching our minors and u20/21s for alot of years now we are usually smaller on average, and not just in height, than the team we are up against.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 3341 - 02/09/2021 20:46:29    2377390

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "He wouldn't have a hope in hell of getting either to a Leinster title!
No offence to either. Davy knew he was taking over a team on the up in Wexford. He had seen 1st hand what they were capable of when his All-Ireland champions were turned over, and then 3 U21 titles were annexed as well as championship wins over Cork, Waterford and Clare.
There was enough there for him to see Wexford could do something. And we so nearly did."
Our day isnt done yet Storeystash ;-)

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 3341 - 02/09/2021 20:49:12    2377391

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