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Replying To ballydalane:  "Deliberately breaking an opponent's hurl in an All Ireland final, right in front of the linesman and referee? Post me a link to where a Kilkenny player has done the same, like a good man."
Word of advice.. Pay no attention to that particular poster.. He's our version of Katser. Not to be taken too seriously.

skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 900 - 24/08/2021 20:11:45    2374487

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I'm still on a high after Sunday,this Limerick team are one of the greatest hurling teams ever.Its great to read all the accolades of informed hurling fans.Its also nice to see that there is very little begrudgery except form a few full time begrudgers.Onwards and upwards for this Limerick team,we are so lucky and so privileged in Limerick....we know it won't last forever but its a wonderful experience.

ONdeDITCH (Limerick) - Posts: 863 - 24/08/2021 20:47:29    2374494

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "Yes, that wasn't very nice out of Mulcahy at all. No such rule exists for breaking a hurley like that. Congress better convene fast and lively before the league begins to introduce a rule to deal with it, or we might not have an ash stick left in the game."
No need. Aggressive fouls, rule 5.3, "to threaten or to use abusive or provocative language or gestures to an opponent" - yellow card offence.

Deliberately stamping on an opponent's hurl to break it falls under "provocative gesture to an opponent" for me.

Also, it shows absolutely zero class, which is one thing unfortunately JP can't buy.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1178 - 24/08/2021 21:25:30    2374503

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Replying To Breezy:  "It was childish in fairness.

On a side note you really are a true Dub with your talk of "hurley sticks" : )"
Yep its remarkable how "Limerick" syntax is A language all its own, maybe for thick I will draw a picture for you.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4727 - 24/08/2021 21:34:42    2374506

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I suppose every game will have it's darker moments, which inevitably becoming talking points in this era of social media and message boards like this one. But that was a rotten and pointless thing to do, especially with the game so clearly in the bag, and play halted at the time so the Cork lad would have no problem getting a replacement. Just a pointless, malicious act of poor sportsmanship. Things like that have a habit of biting the perpetrator on the arse though.

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 2899 - 24/08/2021 21:47:37    2374509

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Replying To ballydalane:  "No need. Aggressive fouls, rule 5.3, "to threaten or to use abusive or provocative language or gestures to an opponent" - yellow card offence.

Deliberately stamping on an opponent's hurl to break it falls under "provocative gesture to an opponent" for me.

Also, it shows absolutely zero class, which is one thing unfortunately JP can't buy."
Nearly as bad as a player splitting a ref open with his hurl.....

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1362 - 24/08/2021 22:04:17    2374516

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Replying To arock:  "Yep its remarkable how "Limerick" syntax is A language all its own, maybe for thick I will draw a picture for you."
Good man Arock.
On a more interesting note, should Liam Cahill head back to Tipp and get them to play for 70 mins or stay with Waterford considering De Burca and Mahony will be back next year??

Shocs07 (Limerick) - Posts: 90 - 24/08/2021 22:05:25    2374517

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Replying To ballydalane:  "No need. Aggressive fouls, rule 5.3, "to threaten or to use abusive or provocative language or gestures to an opponent" - yellow card offence.

Deliberately stamping on an opponent's hurl to break it falls under "provocative gesture to an opponent" for me.

Also, it shows absolutely zero class, which is one thing unfortunately JP can't buy."
Real class comment out of you there ballydalane

updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 519 - 24/08/2021 22:06:50    2374519

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Replying To St.Mologga:  "I agree. Always thought September finals date should be maintained. Maybe this matter could addressed again possibly in Congress."
Not a hope. Congress is nothing more than a nodding shop. The delegates just nod their consent to the motions. The top table don't want the finals played in September. The delegates will just nod their heads and agree with the top table.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 5667 - 24/08/2021 22:53:53    2374541

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Replying To ballydalane:  "No need. Aggressive fouls, rule 5.3, "to threaten or to use abusive or provocative language or gestures to an opponent" - yellow card offence.

Deliberately stamping on an opponent's hurl to break it falls under "provocative gesture to an opponent" for me.

Also, it shows absolutely zero class, which is one thing unfortunately JP can't buy."
But there was no opponent there at all. The hurley was just lying on the ground. He picked it up and snapped it with his foot. Therefore there was neither "abusive or provocative language or gesture to an opponent."

Do we even know whose hurley it was?

Therefore, that rule isn't fit for purpose! Congress had better convene posthaste to promulgate a new rule to cover such an incident.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 697 - 24/08/2021 22:57:47    2374543

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Replying To ONdeDITCH:  "I'm still on a high after Sunday,this Limerick team are one of the greatest hurling teams ever.Its great to read all the accolades of informed hurling fans.Its also nice to see that there is very little begrudgery except form a few full time begrudgers.Onwards and upwards for this Limerick team,we are so lucky and so privileged in Limerick....we know it won't last forever but its a wonderful experience."
Delighted for you. Fair play. Enjoy it. Class side. Well ahead of the rest.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3870 - 24/08/2021 23:01:29    2374545

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Replying To ballydalane:  "Referees and the GAA hierarchy have already shown they don't have the stomach to clamp down on illegal handpassing in the face of pressure from players, fans, coaches and media.

The only thing to do then is to curb the use of the handpass. Can't give one if you receive one, something like that.

It's a great skill, Dj Carey with his handball prowess was a beautiful exponent of it, but it's been made a mockery of now. It's like players picking the ball straight off the ground instead of rising it and people saying "ah shur, let the game flow!""
DJ was indeed great with the handpass, both left and right. Of course, he was a fine hand-baller, too back then. That helped. But DJ is retired the bones of 20 years now. The game does move on.

But back then, that type of handpass, you'd get away with. The fellas today are way too fast for that. If a modern player left the ball in the air as long as DJ used to, it'd be snapped, turned over, and back down the field for a point against Kilkenny.

In the modern game, it's just a slight nudge up, and then the quickest flick of the wrist and open palm to get the ball away. It's gone so advanced since DJ's time that the naked eye at times believes that it's seeing a throw. But the ball isn't thrown at all. Look, it's like watching a magician, you believe you see something but what you see isn't what you see at all.

It contributes significantly to a faster, more skillful game. Everything now is done at such speed.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 697 - 24/08/2021 23:10:01    2374547

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Replying To Westfester:  "Spouting absolutel rubbish as usual.
Of course it was unsporting behaviour and could/should have been punished with a yellow card."
Forecast for tomorrow is for sunshine. you really should get outside and take advantage of the opportunity to brighten your outlook. Be well, PS ....and take your brother in arms ,blooyban with you. You know the old saying" "sunshine, the best disinfectant." Bottle it for the winter if you can.
Limerick were magnificent yesterday. I'm delighted ,beyond words.

PatOLogical (Limerick) - Posts: 1295 - 25/08/2021 01:10:40    2374555

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Replying To Bon:  "Nearly as bad as a player splitting a ref open with his hurl....."
"Splitting a ref open"!!

Go have a lie down, Bon, you're hallucinating over events from 10 years ago, they seem to have been exaggerated in your memory.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1178 - 25/08/2021 01:21:40    2374559

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Replying To updwell:  "Real class comment out of you there ballydalane"
From a Limerick standpoint, absolutely he should go back to Tipp. My reasons are not for public airing.

PatOLogical (Limerick) - Posts: 1295 - 25/08/2021 01:50:14    2374560

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I think there's been a theme of indiscipline associated with Limerick all year. I can't believe kiely hasn't tackled it. We hear about what great guys they are but they are damaging their own reputations.

gahfan (Wexford) - Posts: 593 - 25/08/2021 06:13:06    2374562

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Replying To festinog:  "I suppose every game will have it's darker moments, which inevitably becoming talking points in this era of social media and message boards like this one. But that was a rotten and pointless thing to do, especially with the game so clearly in the bag, and play halted at the time so the Cork lad would have no problem getting a replacement. Just a pointless, malicious act of poor sportsmanship. Things like that have a habit of biting the perpetrator on the arse though."
Was Downey correct in using said hurley to slash down on Lynchs shoulder when as you said the game was well over.

updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 519 - 25/08/2021 08:20:56    2374565

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Replying To ballydalane:  "No need. Aggressive fouls, rule 5.3, "to threaten or to use abusive or provocative language or gestures to an opponent" - yellow card offence.

Deliberately stamping on an opponent's hurl to break it falls under "provocative gesture to an opponent" for me.

Also, it shows absolutely zero class, which is one thing unfortunately JP can't buy."
So JP has bought the three All Irelands and the skill and commitment of the players had nothing to do with it. Your someone to talk about class alright. And yes, I do not condone what Graeme Mulcahy did in this case. However overall the game was played in a fine sporting fashion and there is none of the players having their meals through a straw to day. In fact, I dont think there a single drop of blood spilt throughout the and Thank God nobody hit the referee a belt of a hurley.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 3258 - 25/08/2021 08:36:36    2374568

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Replying To katser:  "The only folk taking "chill pills" will be the limrik crowd after Cork ambush them in the All Ireland Final?"
If we had been beaten, as they will some day, we would not have insulted our opposition by claiming they ambushed us, as that would be to suggest that they were in some way not the better team. The better team is the team that wins- end of story. Tom Morrissey was asked about the 2019 defeat by Kilkenny, after the match on Sunday and said they were beaten by a better team that day and he refused to make an issue of the '65 they were denied at the death. He was right. This 'ambush' crack is a load of rubbish.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 3258 - 25/08/2021 09:21:18    2374574

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Looking back, id say it's now apparent Cork aren't the second best team in the country. I very much doubt they would have beaten Clare if they hadn't been out 4 weeks on the trot at the stage. And even then Clare were a final second shot at goal away from progressing. I see themselves and Waterford at full strength with de Burca, Fives and maybe even the Mahony's available, Clare with Peter Duggan and SOD back hopefully, as the ones who can be Limericks biggest challengers next year.

mr305 (Galway) - Posts: 30 - 25/08/2021 09:51:52    2374581

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