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Dublin Vs Kerry

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Replying To essmac:  "Kerry with last 2 scores great football working out how to beat the Dublin blanket.

Oh sorry, Dublin don't do blankets lol"
Correct!

DUBJOHN (Dublin) - Posts: 863 - 23/05/2021 15:31:36    2344522

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Hugely entertaining game. Con O'Callaghan is some talent. Fair play to Kerry for coming back in what was an uncharacteristic collapse from Dublin.

lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 757 - 23/05/2021 15:31:51    2344523

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Replying To MesAmis:  "An undeserved draw from my pov. Kerry were excellent in the 2nd half and deserved the full points for me.

They're forward line is so good it's scary!

If they can replicate their second half defensive display for the full game they'll be so hard to stop."
I'd agree that Kerry were the better team today.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8277 - 23/05/2021 15:32:39    2344524

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Replying To cavanman47:  "See the problem is. . If he refs it correctly he gets the ex Dublin players in the media calling him out, like Whelan did to David Gough after the drawn 2019 final.

Referees know which side their bread is buttered and god forbid they hold Dublin to account (see the Cormac Costello red card last November).

It's just another obstacle to be overcome when playing Dublin. Part and parcel of the game for a long long time now."
Pathetic. Grow up!

lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 757 - 23/05/2021 15:32:42    2344525

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Replying To MesAmis:  "An undeserved draw from my pov. Kerry were excellent in the 2nd half and deserved the full points for me.

They're forward line is so good it's scary!

If they can replicate their second half defensive display for the full game they'll be so hard to stop."
Whataboutery at its finest

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17787 - 23/05/2021 15:33:17    2344526

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Replying To cavanman47:  "See the problem is. . If he refs it correctly he gets the ex Dublin players in the media calling him out, like Whelan did to David Gough after the drawn 2019 final.

Referees know which side their bread is buttered and god forbid they hold Dublin to account (see the Cormac Costello red card last November).

It's just another obstacle to be overcome when playing Dublin. Part and parcel of the game for a long long time now."
You'd want to brush up on your rules btw.

lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 757 - 23/05/2021 15:33:22    2344527

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Replying To Northsidegaels:  "Disgraceful refereeing performance here, he shouldn't ref another game this summer. You'd have to wonder if some of these refs are gaa people at all as any gaa person would know to play those advantages for Kerry there. The Kerry defending is nearly as bad as the referee also!"
What rule in particular? The Kerry non goal? The one where Kerry player was fouled, Kerry player overcarries in advantage play and is called back for a free. Perfect refereeing.

lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 757 - 23/05/2021 15:35:26    2344529

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Replying To tonguey:  "The point is Dessie did know, of course he did- if he did not it would not say much for his authority in the group. Players doing things like organising illegal training sessions off their own bat with a lookout man.

If he did not know he should be asking why didn't I know???"
I didn't say Dessie did not know, whether he did or not makes no difference. Dublin county board decided to quickly suspend Dessie and gamble that Croke Park would be happy with that, which they more or less were, game over.

sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 383 - 23/05/2021 15:36:59    2344534

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Replying To cavanman47:  "See the problem is. . If he refs it correctly he gets the ex Dublin players in the media calling him out, like Whelan did to David Gough after the drawn 2019 final.

Referees know which side their bread is buttered and god forbid they hold Dublin to account (see the Cormac Costello red card last November).

It's just another obstacle to be overcome when playing Dublin. Part and parcel of the game for a long long time now."
Nonsense, RTE is full of Kerry stooges, even the muppet summarising was positively gushing.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4730 - 23/05/2021 15:36:59    2344535

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What we learned today will have absolutely nothing to do with or any bearing on the championship. Despite two dire teams struggling with the concept and essence of defending, it was a miserable draw.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4730 - 23/05/2021 15:41:01    2344541

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Replying To MesAmis:  "An undeserved draw from my pov. Kerry were excellent in the 2nd half and deserved the full points for me.

They're forward line is so good it's scary!

If they can replicate their second half defensive display for the full game they'll be so hard to stop."
When you think back at some of the defenders Kerry had over the years they've got no real leader in there at all... all over the shop, but their forward attack can be excellent, could be unstoppable but only if they can produce some defenders to back it up

GAAdundalk (Louth) - Posts: 638 - 23/05/2021 15:48:46    2344551

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Interesting fame. Very happy with Kerry midfield upwards but defense still needs alot of work. First half very poor with terrible shooting from both sides. Cream always rises to the top both David Clifford and Con Ó Callaghan show their true worth. Interesting to see Fenton play more forward today. Lucky with the weather. Kerry cant play in a league final as they have championship following week but I think the gaa are wrong on that one.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 2741 - 23/05/2021 15:50:56    2344552

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Replying To cavanman47:  "See the problem is. . If he refs it correctly he gets the ex Dublin players in the media calling him out, like Whelan did to David Gough after the drawn 2019 final.

Referees know which side their bread is buttered and god forbid they hold Dublin to account (see the Cormac Costello red card last November).

It's just another obstacle to be overcome when playing Dublin. Part and parcel of the game for a long long time now."
What is the issue with Costello's red last November, at the time no one knew what it was for. Refs report stated red was for abusive language to official, which is a yellow card offence, threatening language to an official is a red, so the appeal was an open and shut case.

sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 383 - 23/05/2021 15:51:32    2344553

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Replying To mayotyroneman:  "You obviously don't understand the rules. On both occasions Spillane and moynihan travelled for 8 or 9 steps while being fouled. Referee couldn't allow scores because both players had over carried. Correct decision on both occasions was to award free kick to Kerry as the foul was the initial transgression. Excellent refereeing decisions."
I fully agree mayotyroneman. The fact that a player is fouled doesn't give him a license to take unlimited steps. I think Moynihan took eleven! If the ref ignored the original foul he would have had to give a free out for over-carrying. The reaction of Tomas O Flaithearta and others displayed a complete ignorance of the rules.I thought the ref was quite good today, in so far as it's possible to officiate at the way the game is played now.

midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 315 - 23/05/2021 15:54:13    2344556

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Replying To mayotyroneman:  "You obviously don't understand the rules. On both occasions Spillane and moynihan travelled for 8 or 9 steps while being fouled. Referee couldn't allow scores because both players had over carried. Correct decision on both occasions was to award free kick to Kerry as the foul was the initial transgression. Excellent refereeing decisions."
Find it quite frustrating the blinkered view of some commentators and fans on this kind of thing. It's as clear as day that moynihan over carried the ball and it to brought back and free in awarded. The rte radio presenters were a torture to listen to about it.

Ulsterchamps_32 (Donegal) - Posts: 453 - 23/05/2021 15:59:04    2344559

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Whataboutery at its finest"
I don't think you understand what 'whataboutery' means.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13399 - 23/05/2021 16:01:19    2344561

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2 games in and already the same old names with the same old tired bitterness towards the Dubs.

dubdec99 (Dublin) - Posts: 176 - 23/05/2021 16:02:54    2344563

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Replying To mayotyroneman:  "You obviously don't understand the rules. On both occasions Spillane and moynihan travelled for 8 or 9 steps while being fouled. Referee couldn't allow scores because both players had over carried. Correct decision on both occasions was to award free kick to Kerry as the foul was the initial transgression. Excellent refereeing decisions."
Exactly!

lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 757 - 23/05/2021 16:12:24    2344571

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Replying To sligo joe:  "What is the issue with Costello's red last November, at the time no one knew what it was for. Refs report stated red was for abusive language to official, which is a yellow card offence, threatening language to an official is a red, so the appeal was an open and shut case."
That's not why he got off!

He got off, according to the Central Hearings Committee, because "there was insufficient evidence to substantiate the infraction".

So to put it simply, the evidence wasn't there. It came down to whether the linesman should be believed or not. And he wasn't.

Look, it's small beans. .he hardly impacted the championship subsequently. But Dublin footballers have gotten off the rap in the past because they had friends in high places.

As I said in my original post, you hold them to account at your peril.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4550 - 23/05/2021 16:14:44    2344573

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Replying To mayotyroneman:  "You obviously don't understand the rules. On both occasions Spillane and moynihan travelled for 8 or 9 steps while being fouled. Referee couldn't allow scores because both players had over carried. Correct decision on both occasions was to award free kick to Kerry as the foul was the initial transgression. Excellent refereeing decisions."
Completely agree, there is no advantage if the player with the ball fouls the ball, it would be a free against him. Most people on here clearly do not understand the rules of the game.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1274 - 23/05/2021 16:28:16    2344579

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