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If Mayo beat Tipp by 10 pts+ there won't be an eyelid batted that's for sure. It'll be well done Mayo and sure Tipp is a hurling county anyway.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 06/12/2020 11:57:08 2319086 Link 10 |
They always had a larger pick though! Fifteen years ago they had and they couldn't win Leinster!
the creeler (Cavan) - Posts: 512 - 06/12/2020 11:58:50 2319087 Link 1 |
I think yer being very negative and defeatist. Most teams are beat before they cross the line to beat Dublin. I firmly believe that negative attitude and "poor us" "Dublin's advantages" "Croke Park factor" seeps into a players mentality. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11227 - 06/12/2020 11:59:51 2319089 Link 14 |
Sponsorship money has to be redistributed. The biggest money spinners need to have some of their money taxed. Say you've an average of €1m in sponsorship for each team and Dublin are bringing in €2.5m. I don't know how realistic those figures are but it's just illustrative. Dublin should be allowed to keep half of the excess over the average. So they'd keep 1.75m and the other 750k should be redistributed to teams with less funding. Say Carlow bring in 300k, they are 700k below the average, they'd be topped up by 350k to have 650k. The details would need to be ironed out to account for dual teams and there'd need to be incredibly strict penalties for non disclosure of monies (ejection from the Championship harsh) but it'd be a step towards some competitive balance. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4207 - 06/12/2020 11:59:55 2319090 Link 11 |
He was building off Mickey Harte's blueprint, who in turn came after a Kildare team who umployed the blanket defence to beat Dublin, Meath and Jerry in 1998.
Daith (Kildare) - Posts: 1171 - 06/12/2020 12:01:19 2319092 Link 0 |
Ha ha yep Michael Fitzsimons is a doctor too. I'm sure they are justing out training in the hospital car park all day no bother :) Cian O'Sullivan in PWC too.. probably just kicking ball against the wall all day... There is a serious disrespect being shown to the Dublin players recently. To dismiss their dedication, skill and drive and amazing achievements because they are 'professionals' is really low for any so-called GAA person. they are amateurs balancing work, families and life just like all other players. Dublin players ambition, focus, (incredible) skills and in particular their example set to young people off the pitch should not be dismissed whatever your views on funding or playing home games in CP are. bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4624 - 06/12/2020 12:08:02 2319094 Link 5 |
as I say, when you see the referee walking around the pitch for the majority of the game, the ball is being "pocketed" and he could easily go and have a cuppa and come back and the ball woud still be pocketed...if that is football, we may forget about it, I am looking at this now for the last 4/5 years, and if Dublin want to win fair enough, but they should not be classed as "greatest team of all time" or "great football side" because they are far from it...its rediculous they standard they have dropped to (I wont say rose to) ...I think the "no crowd" at games this year have showed up what Dublin are serving up as football...
Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 06/12/2020 12:08:33 2319095 Link 0 |
And he came back almost immediately, didn't he?
Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1316 - 06/12/2020 12:16:12 2319098 Link 9 |
Nonsense, no other county has ever been as fit as them , not 1 dublin player gets tired from 1st minute to last, how is this possible ? No other county can do it, why is that? and this isn't just a golden generation, team is basically a different team from 2015 and they're only getting better!
achara (Monaghan) - Posts: 561 - 06/12/2020 12:16:40 2319099 Link 2 |
Agree. Some (not all) Dublin fans are deluded into thinking this stuff is because just hard work not the financial stuff. It is literally like an alcoholic that will not admit they have an issue. GAA will die a slow death and it is dying. I live in Galway these days with work, went for a meal with the wife and kids. Wanted to watch the game, they had horse racing on for an all ireland semi final and debated with me that other people were watching the racing. They could put it on in a half hour and could "could see what they could do "...An AI semi was second best to a few horses running about. If that is not the slow death of GAA I don't know what is and Galway is a strong football county. I walked straight out , had the food and a pint ordered. To me that is the death of the game . Horse racing , jesus christ. GAA need to get themselves together if horse racing is put ahead of an all ireland semi in locals GameofTyronesIsBackhere (Tyrone) - Posts: 46 - 06/12/2020 12:28:19 2319101 Link 0 |
Agree yew they will be beaten sometime but doubt there beatable this year though. How do u see today going? Mayo will need to be at there very best to win I think. Best of luck to ye
JimmyNail (Leitrim) - Posts: 182 - 06/12/2020 12:37:56 2319104 Link 0 |
Yeah like most...I think he was only out there about 6 months. But top young Dublin talent isn't immune to AFL recruit - James Madden moved out there too. But it would certainly affect other counties with less players more. Maybe Kerry could share how they managed to persuade Clifford not to move the AF. Might be helpful to the other counties.
bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4624 - 06/12/2020 12:38:07 2319105 Link 0 |
It's clear you're trying to be noble and play the good loser.
Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 575 - 06/12/2020 12:48:05 2319111 Link 1 |
This is just a small sample of the " let's keep mediocre as the standard " so 4 or 5 teams have a better chance. catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 06/12/2020 12:48:48 2319112 Link 1 |
Attitude is everything yew tree. Listening to Tomas O Se last night, Cavan should have turned around and gone home, such was the negative comment. If counties want to throw in the towel before playing Dublin, then nothing will change. Tomas mourning the alleged demise of Leinster football, didn't complain when Kerry hammered the other Munster counties in the championship. Dublin are ahead of other counties, because they have better players, but they will lose eventually. MicktheMiller (Offaly) - Posts: 421 - 06/12/2020 12:53:11 2319114 Link 1 |
I'm saying the ball cannot be passed back beyond the 45m line by the attacking team. And I'm also saying that when Dublin are involved in such negative play as going back from midfield to the goalie that pundits call it out as being terrible football. But you simply won't hear that on rte. They're afraid to say anything about the money train. republicofcloone (Leitrim) - Posts: 375 - 06/12/2020 12:54:17 2319118 Link 1 |
I'm fairness the club scene in both codes is still very enjoyable. I'd highly recommend it,, Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1698 - 06/12/2020 12:54:30 2319119 Link 0 |
Those fitness levels will never be scrutinised or questioned either. Also Cavan had a two hour trip at least to Dublin and the Dublin lads could saunter into Croke Park from the comfort of their own homes. But good enough for Cavan, they wanted to play there instead of levelling the field a bit and insisting the game be held elsewhere. Donegal tried their best to get Dublin out of Croke Park and cowardly county boards voted against it. republicofcloone (Leitrim) - Posts: 375 - 06/12/2020 12:59:25 2319121 Link 0 |
Well if it was the promise of all Ireland wins he's probably already reconsidering his decision to stay.
Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1698 - 06/12/2020 13:01:52 2319125 Link 0 |
Most rural clubs would only live to have 300 members.
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 06/12/2020 13:04:57 2319127 Link 0 |