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Replying To TearsIn85: "So Armagh in the QF.
We'll be tortured with those bloody horns they keep blowing at every game." I agree but not just Armagh fans, I was at the Munster Hurling Final a few weeks ago and the place was full of them
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Best of luck this weekend lads, would leave to see ye beat Armagh.
TobeaRossie (Roscommon) - Posts: 164 - 27/06/2023 09:13:17
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Not getting slightly ahead, just curious... has the semi final draw been made too?
MrPBoylan (Monaghan) - Posts: 235 - 27/06/2023 11:29:50
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Tickets not looking too plentiful.
Usual resources have already been tapped up!!
Will there be breaking ball closer to the weekend?
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Replying To GerryD: "Tickets not looking too plentiful.
Usual resources have already been tapped up!!
Will there be breaking ball closer to the weekend?" Do you trust Ticketmaster ?
monaghanmad (Monaghan) - Posts: 410 - 27/06/2023 14:21:46
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Replying To monaghanmad: "Do you trust Ticketmaster ?" No they are trying to scare us into buying ****** seats by pretending the good seats are sold out
armaghfan02 (Armagh) - Posts: 39 - 27/06/2023 14:45:29
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Grugan, Campbell, Duffy....Tubritt, Murnin, and O'Neill. A lot of expectation around this Armagh forward line.
Have Monaghan 6 backs to match up?
Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 1201 - 27/06/2023 15:01:12
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Replying To armaghfan02: "No they are trying to scare us into buying ****** seats by pretending the good seats are sold out" Exactly
monaghanmad (Monaghan) - Posts: 410 - 27/06/2023 16:40:57
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Replying To MrPBoylan: "Not getting slightly ahead, just curious... has the semi final draw been made too?" No
Semi finals may not need a draw. Depending on winners of QF, semi finalists may be allocated automatically on the basis of teams that previously met should not meet again
If this does not give rise to only one possible set of semi final pairings, a draw will be made
TearsIn85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 208 - 27/06/2023 17:26:52
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Following on from a thread on the main page about trains to matches, with 3 Ulster teams competing on Saturday taking the train from Dundalk is a useful option for avoiding traffic congestion going into and out of Dublin and also at the M1 Toll Plaza. I booked tickets yesterday and got them for under €13 each way, I checked again this evening and some trains seem to be sold out but there are still a selection of services still available for anyone interested.
monaghan_ultra (None) - Posts: 213 - 27/06/2023 17:59:53
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Replying To armaghfan02: "No they are trying to scare us into buying ****** seats by pretending the good seats are sold out" Ticketmaster put rubbish seats up first to ensure season ticket holders have first pick. Just bought good tickets in lower deck.
Shelbourne1 (Monaghan) - Posts: 408 - 27/06/2023 20:00:37
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Replying To monaghanmad: "Exactly" 2017 QF v Dublin was exactly the same.
Scarce at the start of the week
Plentiful at the end
Knoxboya (Monaghan) - Posts: 369 - 27/06/2023 21:36:55
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Replying To monaghan_ultra: "Following on from a thread on the main page about trains to matches, with 3 Ulster teams competing on Saturday taking the train from Dundalk is a useful option for avoiding traffic congestion going into and out of Dublin and also at the M1 Toll Plaza. I booked tickets yesterday and got them for under €13 each way, I checked again this evening and some trains seem to be sold out but there are still a selection of services still available for anyone interested." Best public transport from Dundalk to Dublin is via Matthews Express bus from Marshes Shopping Centre, Dundalk. 50 mins to Drumcondra and stops at top of Clonliffe Rd. On the return the stop is outside Drumcondra railway station.
expat345 (Monaghan) - Posts: 31 - 27/06/2023 23:19:36
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Replying To Knoxboya: "So the Minor All Ireland Final is in Armagh.
Wouldn't we have expected a trip to HQ ?" The young lads deserve a game in Croker. Tge Minor and Tailteann finals should be in Croke Park on same day.
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Replying To expat345: "Best public transport from Dundalk to Dublin is via Matthews Express bus from Marshes Shopping Centre, Dundalk. 50 mins to Drumcondra and stops at top of Clonliffe Rd. On the return the stop is outside Drumcondra railway station." This is on a normal day not when there's probably 30 thousand going the one direction to croke park around the same time. The M1 is going to be mental. Just please every person drive on as best they can and don't be holding the thing up.
Buses will be plentiful up the road also. Hopefully be a great sporting day out and the weather is good to us. Good to see such a representation from Ulster left in all competitions. Shows how competitive things are up here unlike other provinces.
Armagh are going to be tough opposition but we can be confident that if we play well we can beat them. Selection will be different from the Kildare game I think, just not sure where. How would leaving one man always in the Armagh 13 yard area work? Would it make Rafferty stay in goal?? I think if we can nullify his contribution out field we are in a good place.
Be great to see both teams let the shackles off and go at it. Would be a shoot out and really have the crowd going.
Massive best of luck to VC and backroom team. This is good start to his managerial career and long may it continue.
countymonaghan (Monaghan) - Posts: 289 - 28/06/2023 11:10:07
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Armagh are clear favourites, and the prevailing thinking is that an Armagh performance to potential will bring the win irrespective of what Monaghan can do. However.... it is a big opportunity for Monaghan. I had thought after the first Derry game that the group stages would be a series of 3 post-season challenge games to build for next year, but here we are.
Luck, format, pure doggedness, and the odd flash of brilliance have brought Monaghan to this point. We need more of the latter on Saturday, without compromising the capacity to grind out the win.
The play just before half time in Tullamore was an excruciating example of all that has been wrong with the Monaghan this year-a turnover and a point to Kildare after a blunt Monaghan attack went nowhere fast for 4 minutes. There was a lad in the stand roaring at everyone who would listen what was going to happen. Sure enough it played out that way-we thought he was going to have an aneurysm on the spot.
The point is, supporters could see it coming, Kildare could see it coming, Armagh will have taken note too; did the Monaghan team not see it coming? It might turn out to be a watershed moment because surely they can't fall into that pattern again. Game over on Saturday of they do.
One big positive from the Kildare game however was the defence restricted the opposition to 13 points, a big drop from previous outings. That said, it could have been 3-11 easily enough. Lavelle did very well covering the mark threat from Kildare.
Given the tight panel available to VC, the response and plan for Armagh can't and won't be about large scale personnel changes. It must be down to a few key elements; ambition in attack, getting the matchups right defensively; and having absolute clarity on Conor Lane's style of refereeing.
Wylie to start ahead of O'Toole for Turbitt; Duffy for Murnin; Lavelle(?) on O'Neill; McAnespie for Jason Duffy; O'Connell for Campbell and Boyle on Grugan. You'd be happy enough on 5/6 here
In attack, need to get Connor McCarthy moved up from attacking wing back to half forward, albeit playing deeper. Monaghan absolutely need to create a threat inside too. Micheal Bannigan hasn't been influencing games as much recently. Start him at no.14, he's a scoring threat and can play as a ball winner with his back to goal. O'Hanlon pushed further on the inside too- his goals and assists for goals are becoming crucial in tight games.
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Replying To Eddie the Exile: "Armagh are clear favourites, and the prevailing thinking is that an Armagh performance to potential will bring the win irrespective of what Monaghan can do. However.... it is a big opportunity for Monaghan. I had thought after the first Derry game that the group stages would be a series of 3 post-season challenge games to build for next year, but here we are.
Luck, format, pure doggedness, and the odd flash of brilliance have brought Monaghan to this point. We need more of the latter on Saturday, without compromising the capacity to grind out the win.
The play just before half time in Tullamore was an excruciating example of all that has been wrong with the Monaghan this year-a turnover and a point to Kildare after a blunt Monaghan attack went nowhere fast for 4 minutes. There was a lad in the stand roaring at everyone who would listen what was going to happen. Sure enough it played out that way-we thought he was going to have an aneurysm on the spot.
The point is, supporters could see it coming, Kildare could see it coming, Armagh will have taken note too; did the Monaghan team not see it coming? It might turn out to be a watershed moment because surely they can't fall into that pattern again. Game over on Saturday of they do.
One big positive from the Kildare game however was the defence restricted the opposition to 13 points, a big drop from previous outings. That said, it could have been 3-11 easily enough. Lavelle did very well covering the mark threat from Kildare.
Given the tight panel available to VC, the response and plan for Armagh can't and won't be about large scale personnel changes. It must be down to a few key elements; ambition in attack, getting the matchups right defensively; and having absolute clarity on Conor Lane's style of refereeing.
Wylie to start ahead of O'Toole for Turbitt; Duffy for Murnin; Lavelle(?) on O'Neill; McAnespie for Jason Duffy; O'Connell for Campbell and Boyle on Grugan. You'd be happy enough on 5/6 here
In attack, need to get Connor McCarthy moved up from attacking wing back to half forward, albeit playing deeper. Monaghan absolutely need to create a threat inside too. Micheal Bannigan hasn't been influencing games as much recently. Start him at no.14, he's a scoring threat and can play as a ball winner with his back to goal. O'Hanlon pushed further on the inside too- his goals and assists for goals are becoming crucial in tight games." Would agree with most of this, Vinny mentioned Monaghan having another level to move up to, we have seen small flashes of this but Kildare performance was very much back to basics , reluctant to try any kick passes , everything through the hands , chances are that won't be enough to beat Armagh but I don't think any supporter say that we haven't overachieved this year given the changes in the squad
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Rory Beggan;
Conor Boyle,
Kieran Duffy;
Ryan O'Toole,
Ryan McAnespie
Dessie Ward
Karl O'Connell;
Gary Mohan,
Darren Hughes;
Conor McCarthy,
Jack McCarron.
Stephen O'Hanlon;
Karl Gallagher,
Michael Bannigan,
Sean Jones
Now there's a team that'd pin Armagh back. Workers and scorers up top, Jack in space to pick passes/shoot from range. The halfback line would be strong pacy and fit to get back and offer protection to the men best suited to armaghs attack. I reckon Dessie could do a job on a roaming Rian o Neil.
To be honest I think Saturday will tell us a lot about Vinnie's celing as a manager - if he were to start Jack or Conor inside with forker picking them up then it'd be curtains early doors. Forker is like Chrissy McCague, he's too tall, strong, fast and fit all in one for Conor and Jack - he'd do all the attacking/ball carrying for Armagh too and leave the lads nullified in our attacks. If he were to pick up say bannigan, Gallagher or Jones - they'd be well fit to track him or even take him for a spin out the field while we're holding possession to tire him out!
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Replying To Jjoniel79: "Rory Beggan;
Conor Boyle,
Kieran Duffy;
Ryan O'Toole,
Ryan McAnespie
Dessie Ward
Karl O'Connell;
Gary Mohan,
Darren Hughes;
Conor McCarthy,
Jack McCarron.
Stephen O'Hanlon;
Karl Gallagher,
Michael Bannigan,
Sean Jones
Now there's a team that'd pin Armagh back. Workers and scorers up top, Jack in space to pick passes/shoot from range. The halfback line would be strong pacy and fit to get back and offer protection to the men best suited to armaghs attack. I reckon Dessie could do a job on a roaming Rian o Neil.
To be honest I think Saturday will tell us a lot about Vinnie's celing as a manager - if he were to start Jack or Conor inside with forker picking them up then it'd be curtains early doors. Forker is like Chrissy McCague, he's too tall, strong, fast and fit all in one for Conor and Jack - he'd do all the attacking/ball carrying for Armagh too and leave the lads nullified in our attacks. If he were to pick up say bannigan, Gallagher or Jones - they'd be well fit to track him or even take him for a spin out the field while we're holding possession to tire him out!" Firstly not sure how much you know about Armagh as forker is not a tall full back by any means, actually quite small for a full back.
Secondly glad you're not picking the team, Conor McCarthy our player of the year at wingback and you want to move him to wing forward?
Jack mccarron at no 11 who can't track a man whatsoever?
Farney2022 (Monaghan) - Posts: 44 - 28/06/2023 19:44:20
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2003 : Monaghan win
2004 and 2006 : Armagh win
2010: Monaghan win
2014: Monaghan win
2019 : Armagh win
2021 : Monaghan win
Kind of felt after 2019, armagh who finished malachys tenure would have pushed on, they haven't, we edged them in a classic in 2021 in difficult circumstances. Definitely on paper Saturday, armagh have the more settled established team against a monaghan team who although we say are in transition have lots of experience. I thibk vinnie will mix and match the veterans in this game when needed. It's a huge game for Mc geeney really and his team to push on. I have yet to see monahan play well in croke park in championship, even the wins over kildare were sloppy at the best of times. There is probably more going for armagh going into Saturday to win it but it will be close you would think either way.
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