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Replying To Seanfanbocht: "Jealous begrudging Cavanites make thecGAA special?" You're not exactly Mayo's greatest fans!! Tribalism is what makes supporting your county worthwhile. Or do you support Mayo in the championship? Fontofwisdom (Cavan) - Posts: 128 - 16/07/2023 20:17:59 2494914 Link
A very enjoyable day to be a monaghan fan yesterday. Although I was gutted that we lost, I was so proud of the lads and what they gave, although they wont be proud and will be devastated they didn't see it out. Our future is so bright and yesterday will be the foundations of future success. We have a crop of 22-26yr olds coming through at the moment who are as good as there is. Take Mc manus, Karl, Darren out and people think we will crumble, we wont, we will flourish and new leaders will form basking from the confidence and the experience they will take from yesterday. Vinny is doing an amazing job and the youth he is taking in want to play for him and the county. We were tactically on point yesterday and it was so encouraging to see us not park the bus and actually go for dubin. monaghanmad (Monaghan) - Posts: 409 - 16/07/2023 20:22:39 2494918 Link
Replying To shaggylegend: "Players will probably feel its a chance left behind. The first half was the real killer, had 14 shots in the first half only converted 7. I thought Dublin got a couple of dubious/soft frees while at the game and after second viewing today I still think the same. Two frees against Lavelle in partulicular where soft in particular, it was also strange that out the two fouls for holding off the ball went against Monaghan even though both teams where at it all day. Dublin turned the screw with 10 to go and unfortunately the depth wasn't in the panel to help in that crucial period. Overall its been a great Journey this year with drama tension and some great days notably. Tyrone, Mayo,Kildare and Armagh. For next season if Vinny can unearth a few more players. There is about three of this year under 20 panel that should be able to step up the senior level. Vinny has used 36 players during the year which is incredible compared to previous seasons. Also if we could get Kearns and Woods back on board for 2024 then we should be in a much stronger place." I LL add Davy garland to that list, man of the match in the sigerson a couple of years ago , any other county would have found a way to fit him in Monaghan78 (Monaghan) - Posts: 22 - 16/07/2023 23:00:03 2494948 Link
Replying To Monaghan78: "I LL add Davy garland to that list, man of the match in the sigerson a couple of years ago , any other county would have found a way to fit him in" Garland was asked (more than once) to join the panel and he chose not to but I hope to see him in there next year along with the others previously mentioned. monaghan_ultra (None) - Posts: 213 - 17/07/2023 12:51:06 2495075 Link
Replying To monaghan_ultra: "Garland was asked (more than once) to join the panel and he chose not to but I hope to see him in there next year along with the others previously mentioned." Garland a good lad but was given numerous chances & didn't cut it. Anyway we have better options & these will increase with our production line coming through from minors. Shelbourne1 (Monaghan) - Posts: 406 - 17/07/2023 13:57:33 2495105 Link
Replying To Shelbourne1: "Garland a good lad but was given numerous chances & didn't cut it. Anyway we have better options & these will increase with our production line coming through from minors." I think garland can cut it if he gets a run in the team. Also would like to see mulligan get a chance. Kearns is the crucial one to get back in.I think we would have won on Saturday with kearns in the team. I remember Fenton exhausted in clones trying to keep with him last year Dcgael (Monaghan) - Posts: 11 - 17/07/2023 16:44:43 2495188 Link
Niall Kearns changes the entire shape that team. Andrew Woods adds massively to options. Mulligan needed badly also. Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 1184 - 17/07/2023 17:41:28 2495219 Link
Here's hoping that's not the last of McManus. Put in another fantastic performance at an age when most are retired from their club. He had way more impact on the game than half the Mayo players who are supposed to be in their prime! Vinny managed him superbly this year - no need to be wheeling him out in January. Hold him in the paddock until the business end of the season and let him loose fresh on the big stages either from the bench or the start. He's clearly nowhere near finished at the top and barring a serious injury he could hopefully manage his other issues in the meantime Jjoniel79 (Monaghan) - Posts: 199 - 17/07/2023 21:26:21 2495252 Link
Lads Mulligan was on the panel all year up until armagh game, if he was doing it in training and was good enough Vinny would have played him.. Farney2022 (Monaghan) - Posts: 44 - 18/07/2023 10:03:37 2495307 Link
Agree with comments on Kearns as would free up Gary Mohan to play full forward. Who knows through if he will be back. Wonder if there was any efforts to get him over last few months. Woods would be another great option to have along with conor leonard if he can avoid injuries. Dessie Ward never looked properly fit since his return from injury but will be back next year 100% hopefully. These lads along with Mccarthy mcenespie bannigan will be key players next few years. Jones another one who is well capable of stepping up but injuries have stalled his progress also. Monaghan could do with pace in inside line and goals in big matches. Saw a stat there recently apart from Tommy freeman's penalty v kerry in 07 monaghan haven't scored a goal in 7 or 8 quarter semi finals last 16 years in croke Park. V hard to win the big ganes with 13 or 14 pts. seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1880 - 18/07/2023 10:32:07 2495328 Link
Replying To Jjoniel79: "Here's hoping that's not the last of McManus. Put in another fantastic performance at an age when most are retired from their club. He had way more impact on the game than half the Mayo players who are supposed to be in their prime! Vinny managed him superbly this year - no need to be wheeling him out in January. Hold him in the paddock until the business end of the season and let him loose fresh on the big stages either from the bench or the start. He's clearly nowhere near finished at the top and barring a serious injury he could hopefully manage his other issues in the meantime" It was just unfortunate on Saturday he wasnt held until the last 20, it showed our lack of depth really and pace in some of the other forwards. Mick Fitzsimons done very well on him but Mc manus finished very strongly. He could very well play on next year but the mental roll that must take is massive, absolutely no guarantee monanagan will be back there and who knows Saturday might be a fitting way to bow out. Monaghan were unfortunate that dublins big players finished the game strongly in the last 10, that ultimately that was the difference between the teams. Fenton came alive as did Mc carthy. J small was excellent. 222 (UK) - Posts: 844 - 18/07/2023 11:14:33 2495352 Link
Replying To seanie08: "Agree with comments on Kearns as would free up Gary Mohan to play full forward. Who knows through if he will be back. Wonder if there was any efforts to get him over last few months. Woods would be another great option to have along with conor leonard if he can avoid injuries. Dessie Ward never looked properly fit since his return from injury but will be back next year 100% hopefully. These lads along with Mccarthy mcenespie bannigan will be key players next few years. Jones another one who is well capable of stepping up but injuries have stalled his progress also. Monaghan could do with pace in inside line and goals in big matches. Saw a stat there recently apart from Tommy freeman's penalty v kerry in 07 monaghan haven't scored a goal in 7 or 8 quarter semi finals last 16 years in croke Park. V hard to win the big ganes with 13 or 14 pts." We have the structure of a good team. We lack pace upfront. I was impressed with Vinny's handling of the second Derry game. The new manager seems to be a good tactician. The jury is still out whether we have sufficient talent to win an All Ireland. Great to get to a semi final but history does not tend to remember semi finals. History tends to be interested in winners of medal. Bernardo (Monaghan) - Posts: 611 - 18/07/2023 11:41:21 2495357 Link
Replying To Bernardo: "We have the structure of a good team. We lack pace upfront. I was impressed with Vinny's handling of the second Derry game. The new manager seems to be a good tactician. The jury is still out whether we have sufficient talent to win an All Ireland. Great to get to a semi final but history does not tend to remember semi finals. History tends to be interested in winners of medal." Pauric Duffys influence from the stand cannot be underestimated either - he's as shrewd as they come and it doesn't surprise me that Monaghan were far more tactically astute than we have been in a while once Duffy came into the setup. Another man that will hopefully still be in the mix next year Jjoniel79 (Monaghan) - Posts: 199 - 18/07/2023 13:36:30 2495401 Link
Replying To Jjoniel79: "Pauric Duffys influence from the stand cannot be underestimated either - he's as shrewd as they come and it doesn't surprise me that Monaghan were far more tactically astute than we have been in a while once Duffy came into the setup. Another man that will hopefully still be in the mix next year" Some waffle this post! veterngaa (Monaghan) - Posts: 745 - 18/07/2023 15:50:27 2495443 Link
Replying To veterngaa: "Some waffle this post!" Go on… Jjoniel79 (Monaghan) - Posts: 199 - 18/07/2023 16:26:02 2495458 Link
Replying To veterngaa: "Some waffle this post!" I agree he was head of logistics. Above in Derry when the team was in the Derry room his job was to try and get seats for the extended panel in the stand.. shaggylegend (Monaghan) - Posts: 1948 - 18/07/2023 17:12:59 2495477 Link
Replying To Bernardo: "We have the structure of a good team. We lack pace upfront. I was impressed with Vinny's handling of the second Derry game. The new manager seems to be a good tactician. The jury is still out whether we have sufficient talent to win an All Ireland. Great to get to a semi final but history does not tend to remember semi finals. History tends to be interested in winners of medal." Few weeks ago you were saying we should be aiming at Ulster titles, and had no hope of an All Ireland. Now the jury is out I think McManus and O Connell are playing well enough to hang on for one more year, they can be used strategically through the league in preparation for the championship, we need to unearth a couple of forwards to add to the squad and get Kearns back someway. We'd be there or thereabouts next year mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 1066 - 18/07/2023 18:19:58 2495493 Link
Replying To shaggylegend: "I agree he was head of logistics. Above in Derry when the team was in the Derry room his job was to try and get seats for the extended panel in the stand.." Exactly.. booking buses and sorting our tickets for the team players family ! Original poster thinks he's making tactical decisions lol veterngaa (Monaghan) - Posts: 745 - 18/07/2023 21:52:58 2495514 Link
Replying To veterngaa: "Some waffle this post!" He was also one of the men that selected the previous manager, I'd have my doubts as to what actual benefit he is to the set up stoneygrey (Monaghan) - Posts: 229 - 19/07/2023 10:08:32 2495551 Link
Replying To mhunicean_abu: "Few weeks ago you were saying we should be aiming at Ulster titles, and had no hope of an All Ireland. Now the jury is out I think McManus and O Connell are playing well enough to hang on for one more year, they can be used strategically through the league in preparation for the championship, we need to unearth a couple of forwards to add to the squad and get Kearns back someway. We'd be there or thereabouts next year" I was being polite about the jury being out. 2015 is the last time Monaghan won Ulster. Despite all the self congratulatory praise history will dictate that Monaghan have no won any medals in 8 years. I often heard about the great Monaghan team of the1940s but they won nothing and are forgotten. The same will happen this team. McManus will always be mentioned in the company of great Monaghan played like Pat McGrane, Peter Mccarney, and Nudie Hughes. Bernardo (Monaghan) - Posts: 611 - 20/07/2023 14:25:17 2495821 Link