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Replying To suckvalleypaddy: "Its not an anti-GAA agenda but we need a channel for the GAA, men and women. Let RTE show what ever they like." Funded by who? It wouldnt be viable for GAA to run their own channel unless its online only KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3758 - 03/04/2022 15:28:22 2409224 Link
Replying To Gleebo: "It's not a part of RTÉ and hasn't been for some time. https://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2006/0817/407632-tg4/" Splitting hairs here. The licence fee pays for it. They have their own budget and their own governance but are part of the overall organisation. PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 2018 - 03/04/2022 15:35:02 2409232 Link
Replying To brisbane: "So RTE will show a game of rugby between the ladies of wales and Italy but wont show the league finals of our national games. RTE has been a disgrace in its coverage of the GAA its time to make a change" Should they show GAA matches and programmes all day, everyday do you think? Not every RTE viewer is into any sport, never mind GAA. Not too hard to grasp that is it? GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7991 - 03/04/2022 21:10:20 2409393 Link
I'm convinced that all these people who say that all these GAA matches "should" be on free-to-air TV like RTE have absolutely no idea of the sort of expense and resources involved in doing a live broadcast. No interest myself in a women's rugby match between Wales and Italy, but it's probably part of the package that RTE have in order to show the Ireland matches. So if they chose not to show something they'd already paid for, and instead fork out thousands extra to show something else instead, they'd be lambasted by others. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2863 - 04/04/2022 10:57:35 2409449 Link
Replying To GreenandRed: "Should they show GAA matches and programmes all day, everyday do you think? Not every RTE viewer is into any sport, never mind GAA. Not too hard to grasp that is it?" RTE do not have the rights to show the league finals. The got the Saturday evening games this year by default when Eir Sport closed. TG4 are the national league broadcasters Seeking_silver (Limerick) - Posts: 411 - 04/04/2022 17:56:44 2409623 Link
Replying To Seeking_silver: "RTE do not have the rights to show the league finals. The got the Saturday evening games this year by default when Eir Sport closed. TG4 are the national league broadcasters" True. But that's nothing to do with question I was asking. I'm not a fan of RTE TV by the way, but they have to cater to a wider audience than sports fans. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7991 - 05/04/2022 14:38:58 2409776 Link
With the championship less than two weeks away,what is the story with live tv coverage??o know sky are showing saturday games but what about when matches clash,will they be shown by tg4??im wondering about the tv due to having elderly parents who love their Gaa but don't have sky.. CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2513 - 05/04/2022 15:15:15 2409792 Link
Am fairly sure TG4 have never had the rights to show senior inter-county championship matches. They show all sorts of other stuff all right, and are rightly lauded for doing it, but I reckon your parents are out of luck if they're hoping to see senior championship stuff there. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2863 - 05/04/2022 15:34:35 2409802 Link
Replying To CTGAA10: "With the championship less than two weeks away,what is the story with live tv coverage??o know sky are showing saturday games but what about when matches clash,will they be shown by tg4??im wondering about the tv due to having elderly parents who love their Gaa but don't have sky.." Good question CT. Sky Sports games here, don't know about TG4. link There's a €19:50 a month deal for Sky Sports on NOW TV that might suit them. Can cancel any time but make sure to cancel after the 4 months or it'll go to €39 p/m. link GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7991 - 05/04/2022 16:16:08 2409815 Link
Story from Offaly about lads being dropped from an U14 panel for playing soccer doing the rounds at the moment. I'm sure there's more to it then what's being reported, it's mostly coming from soccer people from what I can see, and that's another thing. But why is it only reported when it's GAA? It happens with other sports as well yet nothing is said. If a fella was told to pick between soccer and GAA by a soccer manager we'd never hear it reported on. Same thing with Rugby. oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1640 - 08/04/2022 08:56:39 2410206 Link
Replying To oneoff: "Story from Offaly about lads being dropped from an U14 panel for playing soccer doing the rounds at the moment. I'm sure there's more to it then what's being reported, it's mostly coming from soccer people from what I can see, and that's another thing. But why is it only reported when it's GAA? It happens with other sports as well yet nothing is said. If a fella was told to pick between soccer and GAA by a soccer manager we'd never hear it reported on. Same thing with Rugby." 100%. In the last four or five years, my own club has lost three very good young hurlers and footballers to other sports. One went to one of the big soccer clubs in Dublin, and the other two are with the Leinster rugby academy. All have been told not to play hurling or football any more, even in the soccer and rugby off-season. We haven't gone running to the papers about it, or kicking up a stink on social media. Maybe we should! Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2863 - 08/04/2022 10:17:23 2410218 Link
Replying To oneoff: "Story from Offaly about lads being dropped from an U14 panel for playing soccer doing the rounds at the moment. I'm sure there's more to it then what's being reported, it's mostly coming from soccer people from what I can see, and that's another thing. But why is it only reported when it's GAA? It happens with other sports as well yet nothing is said. If a fella was told to pick between soccer and GAA by a soccer manager we'd never hear it reported on. Same thing with Rugby." link It's not very clear what happened according to this article. Very harsh on U14s. For me if they knew about a training session for county development squad they should be at it unless there's circumstances preventing it. I know they're just U14 but missing training to go playing another sport isn't showing much commitment to the development squad. Or explaining it to the county development squad manager in advance. It's a chance to play for their county. Hopefully they can resolve this and get back in development squad. As one parent says they weren't told they couldn't play other sports if they're in development squad. True, kids want to play and hopefully will play as many sports as they can and if they're good enough choose one to try at a higher level. But skipping training to go playing another sport is a no go. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7991 - 08/04/2022 11:19:39 2410224 Link
Replying To Pikeman96: "100%. In the last four or five years, my own club has lost three very good young hurlers and footballers to other sports. One went to one of the big soccer clubs in Dublin, and the other two are with the Leinster rugby academy. All have been told not to play hurling or football any more, even in the soccer and rugby off-season. We haven't gone running to the papers about it, or kicking up a stink on social media. Maybe we should!" I'd have the same experience. I coached a bunch of under 14s 8 and 9 years ago and 4 of them were good enough to make a Kennedy Cup squad. Those in charge of that squad told the chaps to drop the football and hurling. One of them refused and returned to the GAA immediately. The other three followed yer man's rules. Missed championship games, a league final etc. By the time they were 17, there wasn't even a soccer club in the parish. All 4 played underage for county and one progressed to be a county senior. CmonAymonow (Laois) - Posts: 160 - 08/04/2022 11:55:06 2410232 Link
Replying To GreenandRed: "link It's not very clear what happened according to this article. Very harsh on U14s. For me if they knew about a training session for county development squad they should be at it unless there's circumstances preventing it. I know they're just U14 but missing training to go playing another sport isn't showing much commitment to the development squad. Or explaining it to the county development squad manager in advance. It's a chance to play for their county. Hopefully they can resolve this and get back in development squad. As one parent says they weren't told they couldn't play other sports if they're in development squad. True, kids want to play and hopefully will play as many sports as they can and if they're good enough choose one to try at a higher level. But skipping training to go playing another sport is a no go." Straight up I'm not anti GAA, if anything i am pro GAA who tries to be objective. I don't know the details in this case but I do believe that the GAA are going down a dangerous path. Young lads are being enticed into development squad which are essentially professional. It seems that it may become a chore after a while and I would think that the enjoyment may go out of it with increased demands and expectations. I think in many ways the GAA behaves like a professional organisation and may expect young lads to buy into a professional ethos but without any rewards being attached to the dream. Maybe young lads see the light and say this is not for me. Or maybe they see soccer as a more leisurely past time with excessive demands and expectations. wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 2103 - 08/04/2022 12:20:49 2410235 Link
In my own parish at the moment there are gas and soccer clubs..it is the same young fellas who play both,some of these are also playing rugby..some are also included in development squads..what I've seen now is parents approaching coaches and saying the kids are suffering from tiredness and they need time off..a lot of the problem comes from the parents who want the kids involved in everything,it's next to impossible to do it all..the gas is getting bad publicity over the Offaly incident,however it's happening to with soccer and rugby telling young fellas they can't play Gaa..with training with all the codes some young fellas are now out 5/6 nights a week.. CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2513 - 08/04/2022 12:30:49 2410238 Link
100%. In the last four or five years, my own club has lost three very good young hurlers and footballers to other sports. One went to one of the big soccer clubs in Dublin, and the other two are with the Leinster rugby academy. All have been told not to play hurling or football any more, even in the soccer and rugby off-season. We haven't gone running to the papers about it, or kicking up a stink on social media. Maybe we should! Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 847 - 08/04/2022 10:17:23 when you say Leinster rugby academy i guess you mean south east development squads at under 15/16 as academy doesnt start until players are in third level. Even sub academy is for students in third level. The players who are training with provincial rugby squads train 3/4 times a week during the summer from early July until Middle of August/September so hard to play much else when doing that kind of training load. KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3758 - 08/04/2022 12:55:36 2410243 Link
Replying To oneoff: "Story from Offaly about lads being dropped from an U14 panel for playing soccer doing the rounds at the moment. I'm sure there's more to it then what's being reported, it's mostly coming from soccer people from what I can see, and that's another thing. But why is it only reported when it's GAA? It happens with other sports as well yet nothing is said. If a fella was told to pick between soccer and GAA by a soccer manager we'd never hear it reported on. Same thing with Rugby." link The Offaly Express article is mild and measured. But this fella, a so-called journalist, with his clickbait heading. Plagiarising the Offaly Express article. I can see how people think there's anti-GAA bias when they see a headline like this, designed to get views for ads beside the article online. They'll have a cricket match fixing article tomorrow and on Sunday telling all about some soccer star's new car! A good few Twitter/Facebook/YouTube posting whingers will be all over headlines like that. They're only happy if other people aren't happy. If people want to rant about the GAA from their high stool or behind a keyboard they don't know what they're missing. Best ignored. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7991 - 08/04/2022 15:04:50 2410271 Link
Replying To KillingFields: "100%. In the last four or five years, my own club has lost three very good young hurlers and footballers to other sports. One went to one of the big soccer clubs in Dublin, and the other two are with the Leinster rugby academy. All have been told not to play hurling or football any more, even in the soccer and rugby off-season. We haven't gone running to the papers about it, or kicking up a stink on social media. Maybe we should! Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 847 - 08/04/2022 10:17:23 when you say Leinster rugby academy i guess you mean south east development squads at under 15/16 as academy doesnt start until players are in third level. Even sub academy is for students in third level. The players who are training with provincial rugby squads train 3/4 times a week during the summer from early July until Middle of August/September so hard to play much else when doing that kind of training load." I apologise if I didn't have the terminology correct, but basically yes, they went to join whatever player development pathway that rugby run. And I'm in no way suggesting that players in the rugby development system don't train hard, or that it doesn't take big commitment. But point remains that as soon as these lads committed to the rugby development squads, they were told to forget about GAA, and that's what they did, even though one of them in particular was very reluctant to do so. I'm sure that if either or both ignored rugby orders and came to play a hurling match with us when they wanted to, they'd have got their marching orders from the rugby set-up too. So it's no different in essence to the lads in Offaly committing to the GAA development squads there, but then deciding to go play soccer one day instead. And then we hear these "GAA stops young lads from playing soccer" stories....but as pointed out above, we never hear "Soccer (or rugby) stops young lads from playing hurling and football". Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2863 - 08/04/2022 16:17:52 2410286 Link
Replying To Pikeman96: " Replying To KillingFields: "100%. In the last four or five years, my own club has lost three very good young hurlers and footballers to other sports. One went to one of the big soccer clubs in Dublin, and the other two are with the Leinster rugby academy. All have been told not to play hurling or football any more, even in the soccer and rugby off-season. We haven't gone running to the papers about it, or kicking up a stink on social media. Maybe we should! Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 847 - 08/04/2022 10:17:23 when you say Leinster rugby academy i guess you mean south east development squads at under 15/16 as academy doesnt start until players are in third level. Even sub academy is for students in third level. The players who are training with provincial rugby squads train 3/4 times a week during the summer from early July until Middle of August/September so hard to play much else when doing that kind of training load." I apologise if I didn't have the terminology correct, but basically yes, they went to join whatever player development pathway that rugby run. And I'm in no way suggesting that players in the rugby development system don't train hard, or that it doesn't take big commitment. But point remains that as soon as these lads committed to the rugby development squads, they were told to forget about GAA, and that's what they did, even though one of them in particular was very reluctant to do so. I'm sure that if either or both ignored rugby orders and came to play a hurling match with us when they wanted to, they'd have got their marching orders from the rugby set-up too. So it's no different in essence to the lads in Offaly committing to the GAA development squads there, but then deciding to go play soccer one day instead. And then we hear these "GAA stops young lads from playing soccer" stories....but as pointed out above, we never hear "Soccer (or rugby) stops young lads from playing hurling and football"." How much do soccer or rugby stop kids from playing hurling or football. on the development squads these players also are often in residential camps if under 18/19 for provincial squads. the players in these squads are not told to forget about GAA or any other sports for that matter but to reduce the training load they will do in the summer period ahead of the interpros. KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3758 - 12/04/2022 14:33:19 2410685 Link
Replying To KillingFields: " Replying To Pikeman96: "[quote=KillingFields: "100%. In the last four or five years, my own club has lost three very good young hurlers and footballers to other sports. One went to one of the big soccer clubs in Dublin, and the other two are with the Leinster rugby academy. All have been told not to play hurling or football any more, even in the soccer and rugby off-season. We haven't gone running to the papers about it, or kicking up a stink on social media. Maybe we should! Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 847 - 08/04/2022 10:17:23 when you say Leinster rugby academy i guess you mean south east development squads at under 15/16 as academy doesnt start until players are in third level. Even sub academy is for students in third level. The players who are training with provincial rugby squads train 3/4 times a week during the summer from early July until Middle of August/September so hard to play much else when doing that kind of training load." I apologise if I didn't have the terminology correct, but basically yes, they went to join whatever player development pathway that rugby run. And I'm in no way suggesting that players in the rugby development system don't train hard, or that it doesn't take big commitment. But point remains that as soon as these lads committed to the rugby development squads, they were told to forget about GAA, and that's what they did, even though one of them in particular was very reluctant to do so. I'm sure that if either or both ignored rugby orders and came to play a hurling match with us when they wanted to, they'd have got their marching orders from the rugby set-up too. So it's no different in essence to the lads in Offaly committing to the GAA development squads there, but then deciding to go play soccer one day instead. And then we hear these "GAA stops young lads from playing soccer" stories....but as pointed out above, we never hear "Soccer (or rugby) stops young lads from playing hurling and football"." How much do soccer or rugby stop kids from playing hurling or football. on the development squads these players also are often in residential camps if under 18/19 for provincial squads. the players in these squads are not told to forget about GAA or any other sports for that matter but to reduce the training load they will do in the summer period ahead of the interpros."]https://www.change.org/p/bring-back-u13-u14-u15-u16-gaelic-football-in-craughwell?recruiter=850347167&utm_campaign=signature_receipt&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=share_petition&fbclid=IwAR2BFDhJ8U6E_YOxiN0Uk_tiSg0pDOWrpSuLNTMopkGeXjPxhGWzxxgq890 Had this sent to me last week. A club in Galway stopping young lads playing Gaelic Football. I have heard it all now! hashtag2017 (Galway) - Posts: 173 - 12/04/2022 15:03:13 2410697 Link