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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Did you listen to Sunday Sport yesterday? True it seems any GAA rows are more highlighted than rugby. But there are a lot less playing rugby than hurling or gaelic football.

Gaelic Football and Hurling are contacts sports though, Rugby is a collision sport, different rules, not comparing like with like. Scuffing is encouraged in rugby. At professional rugby level they have hired PR people to do down any scuffles that get reported. Gaa slower to react. The Wicklow parents row at U15 game a few months ago was a mad overreaction. Why was no-one ringing Joe Duffy saying a few adults lost their heads, we have some great young fellas playing ball here, not at home playing Xbox, drinking, doing drugs or joyriding. Social media and clickbait is the enemy here. Misreporting events. Today it could be a club hurling game, tomorrow a rugby team not adhering to COVID rules, the next day Aubameyang moves for stupid money. Don't believe most of what you read and none of what you hear.

Anyways, going sideways, I'm no fan of banks. But this is a great ad.

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Same over in England. I was in London in 2015 and it seemed most people didn't care about or even know that the world cup was on. The cricket in 2019 took over even though england were in the final. The media will highlight the negatives of soccer all the time but rarely rugby. Nothing about young lads getting hazed by clubs or their history of trying to ban rugby league in the North of england. They did that in France by working alongside the Germans.

Rolo2010 (Donegal) - Posts: 746 - 31/01/2022 18:23:43    2397575

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Did you listen to Sunday Sport yesterday? True it seems any GAA rows are more highlighted than rugby. But there are a lot less playing rugby than hurling or gaelic football.

Gaelic Football and Hurling are contacts sports though, Rugby is a collision sport, different rules, not comparing like with like. Scuffing is encouraged in rugby. At professional rugby level they have hired PR people to do down any scuffles that get reported. Gaa slower to react. The Wicklow parents row at U15 game a few months ago was a mad overreaction. Why was no-one ringing Joe Duffy saying a few adults lost their heads, we have some great young fellas playing ball here, not at home playing Xbox, drinking, doing drugs or joyriding. Social media and clickbait is the enemy here. Misreporting events. Today it could be a club hurling game, tomorrow a rugby team not adhering to COVID rules, the next day Aubameyang moves for stupid money. Don't believe most of what you read and none of what you hear.

Anyways, going sideways, I'm no fan of banks. But this is a great ad.

link"
There is less playing rugby than GAA but the proportion of incidents isnt near the same. There is far more incidents in GAA of crowds getting involved, brawls etc.
For example a few years back there was less than 10 red cards awarded in an entire season in Connacht rugby between adult and age grade rugby so if there is that few reds then there is also few brawls.
what PR people have been hired to down play incidents and care to show how "scuffing" is encouraged in rugby?

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3758 - 31/01/2022 18:29:46    2397578

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Replying To mod:  "Of course RTE have an Anti GAA agenda. Any scuffle is immediately highlighted by rte news as well as sport prog which is fair enough but there are similar bust ups in rugby which are always ignored. Why the difference?"
What similar bust ups in rugby and which are ignored?
There isnt tv cameras or people dont send in videos from rugby games,
if rte were being sent on a semi regular basis fights in rugby games involving spectators, subs etc then they would of course show them but theyre not sent in
even with that and taking into account less matches there is far fewer incidents in rugby

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3758 - 31/01/2022 18:46:51    2397586

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Did you listen to Sunday Sport yesterday? True it seems any GAA rows are more highlighted than rugby. But there are a lot less playing rugby than hurling or gaelic football.

Gaelic Football and Hurling are contacts sports though, Rugby is a collision sport, different rules, not comparing like with like. Scuffing is encouraged in rugby. At professional rugby level they have hired PR people to do down any scuffles that get reported. Gaa slower to react. The Wicklow parents row at U15 game a few months ago was a mad overreaction. Why was no-one ringing Joe Duffy saying a few adults lost their heads, we have some great young fellas playing ball here, not at home playing Xbox, drinking, doing drugs or joyriding. Social media and clickbait is the enemy here. Misreporting events. Today it could be a club hurling game, tomorrow a rugby team not adhering to COVID rules, the next day Aubameyang moves for stupid money. Don't believe most of what you read and none of what you hear.

Anyways, going sideways, I'm no fan of banks. But this is a great ad.

link"
also far less incidents in rugby.
there was a season a few years back in connacht where there wasnt 1 red card in the entire season which is how many hundreds and hundreds of matches.
how is scuffing encouraged in rugby and who are these PR people hired to talk down any scuffles in games?

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3758 - 31/01/2022 18:48:59    2397587

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Replying To mod:  "Of course RTE have an Anti GAA agenda. Any scuffle is immediately highlighted by rte news as well as sport prog which is fair enough but there are similar bust ups in rugby which are always ignored. Why the difference?"
Similar bust ups which involve management and supporters like many of the incidents in GAA?
At what levels and what games have these similar bust ups happened?

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3758 - 31/01/2022 21:19:01    2397606

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Did you listen to Sunday Sport yesterday? True it seems any GAA rows are more highlighted than rugby. But there are a lot less playing rugby than hurling or gaelic football.

Gaelic Football and Hurling are contacts sports though, Rugby is a collision sport, different rules, not comparing like with like. Scuffing is encouraged in rugby. At professional rugby level they have hired PR people to do down any scuffles that get reported. Gaa slower to react. The Wicklow parents row at U15 game a few months ago was a mad overreaction. Why was no-one ringing Joe Duffy saying a few adults lost their heads, we have some great young fellas playing ball here, not at home playing Xbox, drinking, doing drugs or joyriding. Social media and clickbait is the enemy here. Misreporting events. Today it could be a club hurling game, tomorrow a rugby team not adhering to COVID rules, the next day Aubameyang moves for stupid money. Don't believe most of what you read and none of what you hear.

Anyways, going sideways, I'm no fan of banks. But this is a great ad.

link"
even with less playing rugby than gaelic football there is way less major incidents proportionally in rugby
what is scuffing? and how is it encouraged in rugby?
Who are these PR people in rugby who dismiss any reports of fighting etc? Care to name names?

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3758 - 31/01/2022 21:21:01    2397608

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Did you listen to Sunday Sport yesterday? True it seems any GAA rows are more highlighted than rugby. But there are a lot less playing rugby than hurling or gaelic football.

Gaelic Football and Hurling are contacts sports though, Rugby is a collision sport, different rules, not comparing like with like. Scuffing is encouraged in rugby. At professional rugby level they have hired PR people to do down any scuffles that get reported. Gaa slower to react. The Wicklow parents row at U15 game a few months ago was a mad overreaction. Why was no-one ringing Joe Duffy saying a few adults lost their heads, we have some great young fellas playing ball here, not at home playing Xbox, drinking, doing drugs or joyriding. Social media and clickbait is the enemy here. Misreporting events. Today it could be a club hurling game, tomorrow a rugby team not adhering to COVID rules, the next day Aubameyang moves for stupid money. Don't believe most of what you read and none of what you hear.

Anyways, going sideways, I'm no fan of banks. But this is a great ad.

link"
even with less playing rugby than gaelic football there is way less major incidents proportionally in rugby
what is scuffing? and how is it encouraged in rugby?
Who are these PR people in rugby who dismiss any reports of fighting etc? Care to name names?

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3758 - 31/01/2022 21:21:12    2397609

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Did you listen to Sunday Sport yesterday? True it seems any GAA rows are more highlighted than rugby. But there are a lot less playing rugby than hurling or gaelic football.

Gaelic Football and Hurling are contacts sports though, Rugby is a collision sport, different rules, not comparing like with like. Scuffing is encouraged in rugby. At professional rugby level they have hired PR people to do down any scuffles that get reported. Gaa slower to react. The Wicklow parents row at U15 game a few months ago was a mad overreaction. Why was no-one ringing Joe Duffy saying a few adults lost their heads, we have some great young fellas playing ball here, not at home playing Xbox, drinking, doing drugs or joyriding. Social media and clickbait is the enemy here. Misreporting events. Today it could be a club hurling game, tomorrow a rugby team not adhering to COVID rules, the next day Aubameyang moves for stupid money. Don't believe most of what you read and none of what you hear.

Anyways, going sideways, I'm no fan of banks. But this is a great ad.

link"
even with less playing rugby than gaelic football there is way less major incidents proportionally in rugby
what is scuffing? and how is it encouraged in rugby?
Who are these PR people in rugby who dismiss any reports of fighting etc? Care to name names?

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3758 - 31/01/2022 21:21:27    2397610

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Replying To KillingFields:  "
Replying To GreenandRed:  "Did you listen to Sunday Sport yesterday? True it seems any GAA rows are more highlighted than rugby. But there are a lot less playing rugby than hurling or gaelic football.

Gaelic Football and Hurling are contacts sports though, Rugby is a collision sport, different rules, not comparing like with like. Scuffing is encouraged in rugby. At professional rugby level they have hired PR people to do down any scuffles that get reported. Gaa slower to react. The Wicklow parents row at U15 game a few months ago was a mad overreaction. Why was no-one ringing Joe Duffy saying a few adults lost their heads, we have some great young fellas playing ball here, not at home playing Xbox, drinking, doing drugs or joyriding. Social media and clickbait is the enemy here. Misreporting events. Today it could be a club hurling game, tomorrow a rugby team not adhering to COVID rules, the next day Aubameyang moves for stupid money. Don't believe most of what you read and none of what you hear.

Anyways, going sideways, I'm no fan of banks. But this is a great ad.

link"
Well that is a load of lies.
Scuffing encouraged in rugby? Care to show proof of that.
Pro rugby doesnt hire PR people to talk down scuffles. Care to show that?"
Lies? You think there's no scuffling or hitting in rugby compared to gaelic games?

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7990 - 31/01/2022 22:00:01    2397614

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I like rugby and the fanboy RTÉ thing is not their responsibility. Indeed I recall O'Gara laughing at that Kenny fella when he put a Munster jersey over his suit on Late Late years ago!

However, there is no doubt it exists and during the lockdown there were no calls for rugby to be stopped. Oh no. And yet one well known TV and radio presenter ran a poll with the clear objective of having our championships banned.

And endless radio fretting about a few lads in Cork and Waterford and elsewhere having the audacity to celebrate winning county finals out in the peeing rain and wind!

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3540 - 01/02/2022 10:20:48    2397638

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "
Replying To KillingFields:  "[quote=GreenandRed:  "Did you listen to Sunday Sport yesterday? True it seems any GAA rows are more highlighted than rugby. But there are a lot less playing rugby than hurling or gaelic football.

Gaelic Football and Hurling are contacts sports though, Rugby is a collision sport, different rules, not comparing like with like. Scuffing is encouraged in rugby. At professional rugby level they have hired PR people to do down any scuffles that get reported. Gaa slower to react. The Wicklow parents row at U15 game a few months ago was a mad overreaction. Why was no-one ringing Joe Duffy saying a few adults lost their heads, we have some great young fellas playing ball here, not at home playing Xbox, drinking, doing drugs or joyriding. Social media and clickbait is the enemy here. Misreporting events. Today it could be a club hurling game, tomorrow a rugby team not adhering to COVID rules, the next day Aubameyang moves for stupid money. Don't believe most of what you read and none of what you hear.

Anyways, going sideways, I'm no fan of banks. But this is a great ad.

link"
Well that is a load of lies.
Scuffing encouraged in rugby? Care to show proof of that.
Pro rugby doesnt hire PR people to talk down scuffles. Care to show that?"
Lies? You think there's no scuffling or hitting in rugby compared to gaelic games?"]What are you calling "scuffing" any way?
Lies are when you say its encouraged in rugby. that is a complete lie.

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3758 - 01/02/2022 12:23:48    2397675

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "I like rugby and the fanboy RTÉ thing is not their responsibility. Indeed I recall O'Gara laughing at that Kenny fella when he put a Munster jersey over his suit on Late Late years ago!

However, there is no doubt it exists and during the lockdown there were no calls for rugby to be stopped. Oh no. And yet one well known TV and radio presenter ran a poll with the clear objective of having our championships banned.

And endless radio fretting about a few lads in Cork and Waterford and elsewhere having the audacity to celebrate winning county finals out in the peeing rain and wind!"
Rugby is professional so no games means players out of work/losing work. Completely different to GAA though which despite all the work put in by players, coaches is not these peoples full time careers.

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3758 - 01/02/2022 12:25:31    2397676

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Replying To KillingFields:  "
Replying To GreenandRed:  "Did you listen to Sunday Sport yesterday? True it seems any GAA rows are more highlighted than rugby. But there are a lot less playing rugby than hurling or gaelic football.

Gaelic Football and Hurling are contacts sports though, Rugby is a collision sport, different rules, not comparing like with like. Scuffing is encouraged in rugby. At professional rugby level they have hired PR people to do down any scuffles that get reported. Gaa slower to react. The Wicklow parents row at U15 game a few months ago was a mad overreaction. Why was no-one ringing Joe Duffy saying a few adults lost their heads, we have some great young fellas playing ball here, not at home playing Xbox, drinking, doing drugs or joyriding. Social media and clickbait is the enemy here. Misreporting events. Today it could be a club hurling game, tomorrow a rugby team not adhering to COVID rules, the next day Aubameyang moves for stupid money. Don't believe most of what you read and none of what you hear.

Anyways, going sideways, I'm no fan of banks. But this is a great ad.

link"
There is less playing rugby than GAA but the proportion of incidents isnt near the same. There is far more incidents in GAA of crowds getting involved, brawls etc.
For example a few years back there was less than 10 red cards awarded in an entire season in Connacht rugby between adult and age grade rugby so if there is that few reds then there is also few brawls.
what PR people have been hired to down play incidents and care to show how "scuffing" is encouraged in rugby?"
Yourself perhaps? If not the IRFU should give you serious consideration

UtahBlaine (Galway) - Posts: 153 - 01/02/2022 18:31:55    2397795

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Replying To KillingFields:  "What similar bust ups in rugby and which are ignored?
There isnt tv cameras or people dont send in videos from rugby games,
if rte were being sent on a semi regular basis fights in rugby games involving spectators, subs etc then they would of course show them but theyre not sent in
even with that and taking into account less matches there is far fewer incidents in rugby"
I know I should'nt get involved but sure what the hell. If you want an example of how both codes are treated differently here's a recent example . Mountbellews players and management were castigated , both in print and on social media, for their behaviour after their Connacht semifinal most of which was justified in fairness . Bundee stepped out of line at the end of the Leicester game a couple of weeks ago and 'while it was relatively minor in comparison to the Mountbellew game the reaction was entirely different, as he's a gentleman apparently.

UtahBlaine (Galway) - Posts: 153 - 01/02/2022 18:57:15    2397806

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Rugby is professional so no games means players out of work/losing work. Completely different to GAA though which despite all the work put in by players, coaches is not these peoples full time careers."
I think UtahBlaine has your number.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3540 - 01/02/2022 22:03:27    2397841

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Replying To UtahBlaine:  "I know I should'nt get involved but sure what the hell. If you want an example of how both codes are treated differently here's a recent example . Mountbellews players and management were castigated , both in print and on social media, for their behaviour after their Connacht semifinal most of which was justified in fairness . Bundee stepped out of line at the end of the Leicester game a couple of weeks ago and 'while it was relatively minor in comparison to the Mountbellew game the reaction was entirely different, as he's a gentleman apparently."
Completely different situations and Bundee was criticised and came out immediately unprompted and apologised.
None of what the mountbellow players or managerment did was justified regardless of what mistakes the officials made

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3758 - 02/02/2022 10:50:26    2397874

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "I think UtahBlaine has your number."
Bit SAD that people jump on me like this. and dont do it to others on the forum. no wonder number of posters is dropping off considerably here

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3758 - 02/02/2022 11:34:19    2397892

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Bit SAD that people jump on me like this. and dont do it to others on the forum. no wonder number of posters is dropping off considerably here"
Apologies if I offended you! I was partly messing although you do appear to seem to believe that the IRFU and rugby chaps in general are a bit ahead of us in most things.

At least no one has looked forward to your passing!

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3540 - 02/02/2022 19:09:26    2398026

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Bit SAD that people jump on me like this. and dont do it to others on the forum. no wonder number of posters is dropping off considerably here"
You jump on everyone who dares says something about rugby.

Rolo2010 (Donegal) - Posts: 746 - 02/02/2022 20:51:52    2398041

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Replying To UtahBlaine:  "I know I should'nt get involved but sure what the hell. If you want an example of how both codes are treated differently here's a recent example . Mountbellews players and management were castigated , both in print and on social media, for their behaviour after their Connacht semifinal most of which was justified in fairness . Bundee stepped out of line at the end of the Leicester game a couple of weeks ago and 'while it was relatively minor in comparison to the Mountbellew game the reaction was entirely different, as he's a gentleman apparently."
Different circumstances. Bundee issued an apology immediately off his own back. did the same happen with the mountbellow players? No.
and what happened with those players and coaches meant they deserved the treatment they got in the media
Its very different when its multiple people and when its coaches and players(think there were 7 or 8) involved

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3758 - 02/02/2022 21:41:53    2398046

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