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Replying To Past hurler: "Jacks timing under a high ball is terrible, it's shocking with all the coaching over the years it is still not perfected.
A man with his height and strength playing on a county team at wing forward should be winning all round him on our puck outs." He's a strong hurler, great stick man, can score off either side too. But he isn't and never has been a good high fielder.
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Replying To Timbertony: "Can't agree my man. Teams target running down our middle as he isn't forceful enough there and will foul. Refs are much sharper at spotting those spare hand pulls and he is constantly at it. Forwards don't work hard enough for sure but that's a different issue. Those goals don't come about from sharp deliveries from deep from half backs under no pressure. Puckouts into the centre right down the middle, our lads getting drawn to the ball leaving huge spaces in front of our goal. McGuckian shouldn't be even in that position for that catch, that's where our number 6 should be.
You can't blame the forwards for those." Maybe for the 2nd goal, where the puckout landed on top of the D, but O'Sullivan caught the ball for the 3rd goal on our 21, running back out so having momentum for his jump. That's where our fullback should've been. And Charlie caught the 1st ball inside our 21. Maybe some of the younger lads will develop into a dominant 3, possibly Dara Kehoe, but it's too early to tell. Hopefully Jippo is fully fit going forwards.
Agree none of those were the forwards fault. I was talking more about general play.
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Replying To Timbertony: "Damien Reck is not a 6! Id nearly try him at midfield at this point, doesn't hold centre and gives away frees constantly when he's ran at. Foley, Molloy, Lawlor would be an inexperienced HB line but think Rossi needs to be a bit braver and go for it. All three are able to deliver the ball anyway but they will be targeted in the air for sure.
Looking back at the Dubs goals, they were chronic really. McGuckian after a great catch then indecisive in possession and throws it back to nobody. But we have more than enough time to deal with the mistake. Somebody fall over the ball or at least foul outside the box. Can't stop the run yet again until Hearne fouls. Second one, long puck out all our defenders drawn into the middle. Our defensive organization from puck outs was really poor throughout. Foley ball watching again but that's an easy pass through for a one on one. Nowhere near good enough. Third, Shane Reck beaten in air again but from that once again we can't block the runners. Foley is left with two lads to mark to be fair. Their 12 (Power?) had a field day in the second half.
The ref did do us, no doubt about it. But we have no chance defending like that. Weak in the air, can't stop runs and lads getting drawn to the ball like u12/u14. A lot to fix ahead of Galway." Would love to see d reck in midfield.
Not sure who would fill 6 tho.
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Out problems are many unfortunately
Management will gloss over our weaknesses but the facts don't lie.
All our players at every level give their best to be fair but in all honesty we lack the killer instinct in tight games. The opposition know that and exploit it.
This is evident throughout our underage and senior games..
Unless we have ball winners in our defence and forwards we are going nowhere.
We struggle big time against the top tier teams .
Hopefully they have learned from the Dublin game.
Yes the penalty decision was stupid in the extreme but we were outplayed for most of that game.
The basic requirements in hurling are positional awarements, ariel ability, strong no nonsense defenders attackers that know how to make the right choices when passing or shooting.
Management must know when to make changes when necessary.
Unfortunately we lack in Al of the above and will continue to be problematic unless we improve substantially in those areas.
Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 445 - 03/05/2025 01:01:12
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Lads anyone know if minor & u20 games are on tv over the weekend?
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Replying To WEXILE: "Lads anyone know if minor & u20 games are on tv over the weekend?" Minors on clubber anyway. Not sure about 20s
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Replying To Magpie2: "Out problems are many unfortunately
Management will gloss over our weaknesses but the facts don't lie.
All our players at every level give their best to be fair but in all honesty we lack the killer instinct in tight games. The opposition know that and exploit it.
This is evident throughout our underage and senior games..
Unless we have ball winners in our defence and forwards we are going nowhere.
We struggle big time against the top tier teams .
Hopefully they have learned from the Dublin game.
Yes the penalty decision was stupid in the extreme but we were outplayed for most of that game.
The basic requirements in hurling are positional awarements, ariel ability, strong no nonsense defenders attackers that know how to make the right choices when passing or shooting.
Management must know when to make changes when necessary.
Unfortunately we lack in Al of the above and will continue to be problematic unless we improve substantially in those areas." I don't think we were massively out played to be honest. How many wides did we have?
Dublin didn't waste any position.
They deserved to win, marginally on the balance of the 70 minutes. That was them at absolutely full belt.
You're right about ball winning forwards. We're struggling badly and have done for years now.
I disagree about the defence in general. Even in games where we haven't performed we've ok defensively.
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Replying To WEXILE: "Lads anyone know if minor & u20 games are on tv over the weekend?" The minor game in Galway is live on clubber TV.its on today at 3.00pm. Costs €12.99.
Didn't know if the u20 against Laois was available anywhere. I checked it out and its on Tg4 sport channel ( streaming ) on Monday. Throw in is 2.00pm. There is no charge for this service.
Hope that helps Wexile.
Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 445 - 03/05/2025 13:14:29
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Replying To Magpie2: "The minor game in Galway is live on clubber TV.its on today at 3.00pm. Costs €12.99.
Didn't know if the u20 against Laois was available anywhere. I checked it out and its on Tg4 sport channel ( streaming ) on Monday. Throw in is 2.00pm. There is no charge for this service.
Hope that helps Wexile." Cheers, I'll try clubber today and hopefully tg4 streaming tomorrow!
WEXILE (Wexford) - Posts: 378 - 03/05/2025 13:45:17
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Replying To Doylerwex: "I don't think we were massively out played to be honest. How many wides did we have?
Dublin didn't waste any position.
They deserved to win, marginally on the balance of the 70 minutes. That was them at absolutely full belt.
You're right about ball winning forwards. We're struggling badly and have done for years now.
I disagree about the defence in general. Even in games where we haven't performed we've ok defensively." Did I read your post correctly Doyler.
You say we were okay defensively.
Really!!!! Our defence was torn to shreads during the Dubs game.
No one to catch a ball from the air.
No one to prevent their forwards from cutting through our rear guard like a knife through butter.
Quite frankly we were at sixes and sevens for large periods and were never comfortable.
Jippo of course was a massive loss and we don't have a decent replacement.
We will be much better in our defence against Galway with him on board.
Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 445 - 03/05/2025 14:23:10
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Replying To Magpie2: "Did I read your post correctly Doyler.
You say we were okay defensively.
Really!!!! Our defence was torn to shreads during the Dubs game.
No one to catch a ball from the air.
No one to prevent their forwards from cutting through our rear guard like a knife through butter.
Quite frankly we were at sixes and sevens for large periods and were never comfortable.
Jippo of course was a massive loss and we don't have a decent replacement.
We will be much better in our defence against Galway with him on board." Pretty sure we had the second best defensive record in the league but didn't score enough. That indicates our main issue is forwards.
Dublin did not tear us to shreds. They lumped a load of ball on top of us. This was a tactical error. We should have had a sweeper for the second half.
Ok Foley got cleaned out. He should have been moved.
Ok the second goal was bad. Our defensive shape was poor but that was because we had possession and were already beginning to reset before the ball was coughed up poorly.
It was far from an ideal performance by any means. I'm just saying the back 6 is low down the pecking order in terms of what we need to work on.
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WEXILE (Wexford) - Posts: 378 - 03/05/2025 15:37:28
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Just watching the minor match here, seems to be a Wexford problem at all levels that when things go wrong it starts to become like an avalanche, everything starts going wrong, we don't seem able to take the wind out of our opponent's sails when they get on a roll and start doing everything wrong ourselves...we concede a goal and before you know it another one is in the net, our frees start going wide, players let frustration get better of them and get carded, its hard to watch at times. Senior game last week we collapsed after conceding the phantom goal in a game that was going reasonably well before that, the Clare quarter final a few years back another example, Tipp 2019 probably the most criminal example
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Replying To Ancamánbriste: "Just watching the minor match here, seems to be a Wexford problem at all levels that when things go wrong it starts to become like an avalanche, everything starts going wrong, we don't seem able to take the wind out of our opponent's sails when they get on a roll and start doing everything wrong ourselves...we concede a goal and before you know it another one is in the net, our frees start going wide, players let frustration get better of them and get carded, its hard to watch at times. Senior game last week we collapsed after conceding the phantom goal in a game that was going reasonably well before that, the Clare quarter final a few years back another example, Tipp 2019 probably the most criminal example" Very competitive for 45 minutes and then the last 15 were a total disaster from our point of view. That a very good Galway team in fairness. Very disappointing result all the same. Sean O Brien is a class act, is he underage again next year? There was more then just sean o brien though, that team have a few good players. As a poster said we just imploded in the last 15 minutes.
hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1118 - 03/05/2025 16:29:22
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Replying To Doylerwex: "Pretty sure we had the second best defensive record in the league but didn't score enough. That indicates our main issue is forwards.
Dublin did not tear us to shreds. They lumped a load of ball on top of us. This was a tactical error. We should have had a sweeper for the second half.
Ok Foley got cleaned out. He should have been moved.
Ok the second goal was bad. Our defensive shape was poor but that was because we had possession and were already beginning to reset before the ball was coughed up poorly.
It was far from an ideal performance by any means. I'm just saying the back 6 is low down the pecking order in terms of what we need to work on." Wow
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Too much dependence on Sean O'brien.
At half time when Galway were just one point ahead I felt that we were losing the battles in many areas.
The 2nd half was really a formality. Galway scored at will and totally destroyed us.
We do have a few good players but unfortunately not enough of them. They may come good in the future but having been beaten heavily by Kilkenny and Galway it's hard to see us making progress in this competition.
Once again we were 2nd best in the physical exchanges and they gave us a roasting in this regard. O'brien is the real deal and has a great future in a Wexford shirt.
Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 445 - 03/05/2025 17:27:21
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Replying To Ancamánbriste: "Just watching the minor match here, seems to be a Wexford problem at all levels that when things go wrong it starts to become like an avalanche, everything starts going wrong, we don't seem able to take the wind out of our opponent's sails when they get on a roll and start doing everything wrong ourselves...we concede a goal and before you know it another one is in the net, our frees start going wide, players let frustration get better of them and get carded, its hard to watch at times. Senior game last week we collapsed after conceding the phantom goal in a game that was going reasonably well before that, the Clare quarter final a few years back another example, Tipp 2019 probably the most criminal example" Galway got some very handy goals too
Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2292 - 03/05/2025 17:39:44
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Replying To Magpie2: "Too much dependence on Sean O'brien.
At half time when Galway were just one point ahead I felt that we were losing the battles in many areas.
The 2nd half was really a formality. Galway scored at will and totally destroyed us.
We do have a few good players but unfortunately not enough of them. They may come good in the future but having been beaten heavily by Kilkenny and Galway it's hard to see us making progress in this competition.
Once again we were 2nd best in the physical exchanges and they gave us a roasting in this regard. O'brien is the real deal and has a great future in a Wexford shirt." It's almost a carbon copy of the senior team with O'Brien having to do a Lee Chin effort in each game for the minors.
Past hurler (None) - Posts: 917 - 03/05/2025 17:40:49
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Replying To Ancamánbriste: "Just watching the minor match here, seems to be a Wexford problem at all levels that when things go wrong it starts to become like an avalanche, everything starts going wrong, we don't seem able to take the wind out of our opponent's sails when they get on a roll and start doing everything wrong ourselves...we concede a goal and before you know it another one is in the net, our frees start going wide, players let frustration get better of them and get carded, its hard to watch at times. Senior game last week we collapsed after conceding the phantom goal in a game that was going reasonably well before that, the Clare quarter final a few years back another example, Tipp 2019 probably the most criminal example" We were missing a few starters, the Peters lads were on their school tour. That's a good Galway team also. We started 24 different lads during the meaningless round robin, and around 30 lads saw gametime. Hopefully we will do better in the knockout stages.
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Replying To Viking66: "We were missing a few starters, the Peters lads were on their school tour. That's a good Galway team also. We started 24 different lads during the meaningless round robin, and around 30 lads saw gametime. Hopefully we will do better in the knockout stages." I wonder is young Daragh Ryan any relation? Also I Adrian's young fella came.on also.
I know I'm getting old when the players I used to look to all have kids on intercounty teams now!
WEXILE (Wexford) - Posts: 378 - 03/05/2025 18:45:50
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