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Replying To foreveryoung:  "A coach as well as everything else!"
Coaching is great fun. Nothing like being down the pitches 4 or 5 nights a week! 6 or 7 many weeks including going to games with the children.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15639 - 05/05/2025 00:31:52    2606744

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Replying To Slowandshortsighted:  "I said id give it a few days for things to cool off before coming on here. There was a good bit of nonsense wrote like there always is after a defeat. The dublin game is gone now and im sure they have looked over it and will try learn from it. Keith rossitor what a gentleman after the game. So gracious in defeat and after that goal was never was. He knows himself that dublin were the better team and too many of his players didnt hurl well enough. Foley obviously had a really tough day but he has being very good so i wouldnt be too critical of him. Its disappointing theres no back up when things arent going right full back.
The reliance on chinners is unbelievable and god forbid he doesnt get injured. Everything good goes through him. Every team has their marquee player but i cant think of any other county who are so dependent on one player. Rory o just doesnt do it consistently enough for wexford. He was lucky he wasnt blown for steps with that goal.
The focus wasn't long turning to galway who have being inconsistent like they always are. They were pathetic against kk and beat a very poor offally team. daithi burke will be a loss because fintan burke isnt as strong full back. Conor whelan hasnt hurled well in a long time. Cathal mannion will have to be man marked. They will do the same with lee and i would be worried if lee is really held where the scores will come from. Jippo will have to come back to 3 but galway wont put someone in to wrestle him they will run him around with mcgoughlin or the new lad molloy. They
know liam would like a conor cooney type player
Wexford will know this is a game they absolutely can gwt 2 points and save their season. A loss here and its unlikely will end in the top 3 which would be a disaster. alot of leaders left at the start of the year and apart from lee there isnt many new leaders stepping up. Kk are hot favorites to top the group with dublin now second. The match next Saturday is vital for both teams.id expect a big performance. Where are all the wexford supporters gone? Very small crowd now following this team. Next year in 1b it will surely be small if we cant get a crowd going now. More should be done to promote these matches but the crowd has dwindled away over the years."
We don't get big crowds unless we make a Final or AISF. Our support is pretty small apart from that.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15639 - 05/05/2025 00:34:29    2606745

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Replying To Viking66:  "We don't get big crowds unless we make a Final or AISF. Our support is pretty small apart from that."
To be fair I think when Liam Dunne started going well the crowd came back. Davy drew a decent crowd too.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3558 - 05/05/2025 10:04:21    2606784

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Replying To Hurler20:  "Does anyone think Wexford clubs will do well in feile st Anne's the division 1 winners look strong and have some very good players but might be to overwhelmed by the strong cork and Kilkenny sides the division 2 winners buffers alley look like they could do well in division 2 and are building a good side and I honestly don't know to much about the Geraldine o hanrahans"
The last ten years of it have been fairly dominated by the Galway clubs, think they've won 6 or 7 of the last 10 but they've been won by 4 absolutely monstrous clubs in Athenry, Oranmore, Turloughmore and Clarinbridge who'd all dwarf anything we'd have in Wexford in terms of numbers, think Athenry even got to the football feile final the same year they won it in hurling just to show the size they have and the footballing sister club of Turloughmore, Claregalway have won 3/4 feile all Irelands in that time too. Of course the Harriers won in 2016 they've up down with their underage teams the years either side of it so haven't really pushed on too much when those came up to senior ranks. Those 4 Galway clubs I've mentioned haven't pushed on in their own county either so it's hard to read too much into it. A lot can happen from u15 to u17 not to mind adult hurling. (Almost like a microcosm of Galway within Galway if you will) That being said it's still nice to see Wexford clubs doing well and see where you stand beside the likes of Corks, Tipps, Limericks, Galways underage club scene, left out Kilkenny cus I think at this stage every club in Wexford has played some game or tournament in Kilkenny v their clubs so we know what they're all like. Always found it interesting to keep an eye out on lads especially if they're from a lower ranked county, remember watching Killian Doyle from Westmeath one year in it and he's probably still the best u14 hurler I've ever seen. Was always on about him and then when he got nominated for an all star a few years ago it was great to see. Home surroundings should give the Wexford clubs a bit of a lift and some sort of an advantage. Best of luck to them all anyways. Got to play in a feile Na Gael one year and it was class, some memories of it, playing all these famous and not so famous clubs from other counties, the likes of Glen Rovers, James Stephen's, Athenrys, Thurles Og etc

Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin (Wexford) - Posts: 317 - 05/05/2025 10:51:48    2606797

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Replying To Viking66:  "We don't get big crowds unless we make a Final or AISF. Our support is pretty small apart from that."
It's not just us, it's an Irish thing, we're bandwagoners by nature, we'll hop on everything that's going well and then forget it. Everything from UFC to rugby, we've done it. GAA and soccer a little different in that the majority of people in the country will follow their teams but ,maybe not go to it when their teams are going poorly but still watch games, talk about it with friends family, have opinions (positive or negative) and effect them a bit more, whereas with the likes of the combat sports, rugby, Olympic sports we don't really care about it as a whole , obviously there is people that do, the real die hards, but a lot of the fans of both don't really care how we go in them and it's just an opportunity to support the team and have a good time. I'll give it to Mayo, they probably have the best support numbers no matter how things are going. Cork usually have good support base, obviously when things are going well they go to a completely different level but usually will bring a biggish crowd, but just about. There's no county really that brings massive numbers if they're not winning. Those two I named are the best of a bad bunch. It's an Irish thing.

Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin (Wexford) - Posts: 317 - 05/05/2025 11:03:56    2606805

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Replying To Viking66:  "Coaching is great fun. Nothing like being down the pitches 4 or 5 nights a week! 6 or 7 many weeks including going to games with the children."
Still wouldn't change it! A labour of love…if you will

Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin (Wexford) - Posts: 317 - 05/05/2025 11:05:29    2606806

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "The point is being made that our defenders aren't good.

I'm simply explaining why that isn't the case.

Please tell me what's "wow" about that.

I know you're around here a long time without posting a whole lot and your attitude is always the same.

Please, please try and challenge my knowledge of Wexford hurling.

I would love to go into it with you.

I've seen every competitive home game, the majority of away and every single championship match since 1995.

I know every single stroke, every score, every catch, every disappointment, every moment of joy and can recite them all"
Doyler you are right about that particular poster and you are indeed a very knowledgeable analyst of the game.
However as I and others have disagreed with you about our defence, having thought about and debated with friends I honestly believe that our defence is our main problem. Yes I agree we were quite good defensively in our league games except against Cork. The truth is that the league and championship are really two different ball games.
During February and March when the pitches are slow and heavy defending is easier. When the ground is firm and the ball is flying defending becomes a lot harder.
And so that seems to be where our problems are.
Rossi said in an interview with people newspapers on Wednesday that our defending was shoddy at times. We do have good defenders individually but as a collective unit we make too many mistakes.
Loose marking. Ball watching, unable to cope with the high dropping ball into our full back line, inability to dominate in the air, over passing that often leads to been dispossessed and gives the opposition scoring opportunities.
Unless we improve in all of the above our problems will remain. So really our defence is our achills heel.

Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 447 - 05/05/2025 12:43:39    2606828

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Replying To Viking66:  "For sure. Was one of Wexfords best players over the last dozen years."
I would say if attendances are down it can come down to the abject performances of the team at times .
Succes will always bring a following.
But if the team at times looks as if they dont care and throw in the towel no one wants to see that i know my demeanour at times is totally tied to how well we do .
If we win I walk taller and grin widely .
If we lose but go down fighting I stand proud .
If we lose and throw the towel in I m totally deflated and down in the dumps and find it hard to understand.
The negativity sets in .
Unfortunately it seems to be more frequent in last few years that the latter occurs .
I still support and go when I can but the motivation is lessened .
Demographics timing of games is also pivotal .
Work schedule means Saturday afternoon games don't suit . .
Local club championship with little jeopardy until latter stages does nt help in the sense that I don't go to as many games pay 10 to 15 euro for games that in the bigger scheme of things onky hold certain amount of influence . When u get out of the habit and routine something else takes it's place and quite possibly realise that maybe the hurling is nt the most important thing in your life afterall .
Bottomline here is we need to be competive ,reliable, consistent fight like dogs everyday give the supporters hope and reasons to follow them and pride in the jersey and county .
Starting with more jeopardy in local championship to put the bite and consistency back with very little consequence for some losses.

Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 353 - 05/05/2025 13:35:57    2606833

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Replying To Hurler20:  "Does anyone think Wexford clubs will do well in feile st Anne's the division 1 winners look strong and have some very good players but might be to overwhelmed by the strong cork and Kilkenny sides the division 2 winners buffers alley look like they could do well in division 2 and are building a good side and I honestly don't know to much about the Geraldine o hanrahans"
The biggest part of your post is the hopeful rise of the alley and Geraldine's as well as the annes winning div1
We need more teams competing at as high a level as possible . No county needs too many superclubs dominating numbers or titles wise underage .
Decent numbers spread over more clubs will be better for our development in hurling .
No club needs 40 to 50 players at each age group too many fall through the cracks.
And the quality of players drops where they are part of a machine and not leaders on their team.
Where the team depends on a core to be consistently good every day .
Rather than 20 average or slightly above players dominate the underage set up .
And When they step up to higher level they can't compete maybe look through recent underage title dominators and see how many chaps have stepped up to next level .
Over 25% of u20 starters are from football dominant clubs kilanerin and castletown . Where are the totally hurling focused clubs going wrong if their players are hurling only . And can't stop.up to plate

Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 353 - 05/05/2025 14:06:45    2606839

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Big goal for the U20s right before the end of the half, have a big wind to come but are lucky to be one behind, how Laois missed that open goal is beyond me

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 473 - 05/05/2025 14:40:37    2606847

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Replying To Magpie2:  "Doyler you are right about that particular poster and you are indeed a very knowledgeable analyst of the game.
However as I and others have disagreed with you about our defence, having thought about and debated with friends I honestly believe that our defence is our main problem. Yes I agree we were quite good defensively in our league games except against Cork. The truth is that the league and championship are really two different ball games.
During February and March when the pitches are slow and heavy defending is easier. When the ground is firm and the ball is flying defending becomes a lot harder.
And so that seems to be where our problems are.
Rossi said in an interview with people newspapers on Wednesday that our defending was shoddy at times. We do have good defenders individually but as a collective unit we make too many mistakes.
Loose marking. Ball watching, unable to cope with the high dropping ball into our full back line, inability to dominate in the air, over passing that often leads to been dispossessed and gives the opposition scoring opportunities.
Unless we improve in all of the above our problems will remain. So really our defence is our achills heel."
I totally appreciate this type of insight.

My previous response was to two posters who offer nothing except "sure we're no use".

An attitude I simply cannot understand and drives me up the wall.

Absolutely there were errors and some tactical naivety, but that doesn't equal to throwing out the whole pack 6 which it seems we agree on.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3558 - 05/05/2025 14:54:13    2606852

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Replying To Formertownie:  "The biggest part of your post is the hopeful rise of the alley and Geraldine's as well as the annes winning div1
We need more teams competing at as high a level as possible . No county needs too many superclubs dominating numbers or titles wise underage .
Decent numbers spread over more clubs will be better for our development in hurling .
No club needs 40 to 50 players at each age group too many fall through the cracks.
And the quality of players drops where they are part of a machine and not leaders on their team.
Where the team depends on a core to be consistently good every day .
Rather than 20 average or slightly above players dominate the underage set up .
And When they step up to higher level they can't compete maybe look through recent underage title dominators and see how many chaps have stepped up to next level .
Over 25% of u20 starters are from football dominant clubs kilanerin and castletown . Where are the totally hurling focused clubs going wrong if their players are hurling only . And can't stop.up to plate"
I wish I knew the answers to that myself.

We won the feile and done very little since. I do think there's a senior in us with that core group.

We have committed coaches, good facilities, decent numbers and we're all working hard.

We do have big problems with drop offs though. Particularly at 14 and minor. The majority of our players take soccer very seriously as well.

The group I'm with at the minute has about 5/6 standouts which is probably 20%. As always, there the chaps who are hurling 24/7.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3558 - 05/05/2025 15:00:40    2606859

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Replying To Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin:  "The last ten years of it have been fairly dominated by the Galway clubs, think they've won 6 or 7 of the last 10 but they've been won by 4 absolutely monstrous clubs in Athenry, Oranmore, Turloughmore and Clarinbridge who'd all dwarf anything we'd have in Wexford in terms of numbers, think Athenry even got to the football feile final the same year they won it in hurling just to show the size they have and the footballing sister club of Turloughmore, Claregalway have won 3/4 feile all Irelands in that time too. Of course the Harriers won in 2016 they've up down with their underage teams the years either side of it so haven't really pushed on too much when those came up to senior ranks. Those 4 Galway clubs I've mentioned haven't pushed on in their own county either so it's hard to read too much into it. A lot can happen from u15 to u17 not to mind adult hurling. (Almost like a microcosm of Galway within Galway if you will) That being said it's still nice to see Wexford clubs doing well and see where you stand beside the likes of Corks, Tipps, Limericks, Galways underage club scene, left out Kilkenny cus I think at this stage every club in Wexford has played some game or tournament in Kilkenny v their clubs so we know what they're all like. Always found it interesting to keep an eye out on lads especially if they're from a lower ranked county, remember watching Killian Doyle from Westmeath one year in it and he's probably still the best u14 hurler I've ever seen. Was always on about him and then when he got nominated for an all star a few years ago it was great to see. Home surroundings should give the Wexford clubs a bit of a lift and some sort of an advantage. Best of luck to them all anyways. Got to play in a feile Na Gael one year and it was class, some memories of it, playing all these famous and not so famous clubs from other counties, the likes of Glen Rovers, James Stephen's, Athenrys, Thurles Og etc"
Oranmore won it last year beating Middletown in the final. We played both in the group stages last year. Middletown beat us well, they were just bigger in every position, talking to a few lads from the club, they had 40+ U15s and 40+ U14s so way more lads up to the age, which makes a big difference. Oranmore beat us by 4 or 5 points, they had big numbers too. St Anne's should do well but are a bit reliant on one player. The beat us in the feile final a coupleof weeks ago,, but we were missing the player that we are reliant one. We had beaten them in both U14 finals last October.

WEX98 (Wexford) - Posts: 495 - 05/05/2025 15:08:15    2606860

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Replying To Formertownie:  "The biggest part of your post is the hopeful rise of the alley and Geraldine's as well as the annes winning div1
We need more teams competing at as high a level as possible . No county needs too many superclubs dominating numbers or titles wise underage .
Decent numbers spread over more clubs will be better for our development in hurling .
No club needs 40 to 50 players at each age group too many fall through the cracks.
And the quality of players drops where they are part of a machine and not leaders on their team.
Where the team depends on a core to be consistently good every day .
Rather than 20 average or slightly above players dominate the underage set up .
And When they step up to higher level they can't compete maybe look through recent underage title dominators and see how many chaps have stepped up to next level .
Over 25% of u20 starters are from football dominant clubs kilanerin and castletown . Where are the totally hurling focused clubs going wrong if their players are hurling only . And can't stop.up to plate"
Very poor performance so far, it's shocking when players fumbling the ball poor passing giving the ball away so cheaply and we look so disorganised in the second half, 23 mins to score from play in the second half shocking..I'm not one who's a negative person but by god wexford hurling going knowhere and that's the reality of it..

juan31 (Wexford) - Posts: 167 - 05/05/2025 15:10:40    2606862

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What an embarrassment, I don't want to hear this Laois team is good etc... we will be a tier 2 team in minor and under 21 in the next year or two. It so sad to see, just imagine been beaten by 6 points to Laois at home. I sick and tired of people going on about the good work been done underage,, the proof is in the pudding, 12 points loss to Galway in Minor and 6 points loss to Laois at home today in under 21. Results don't lie, embarrassing.

hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1122 - 05/05/2025 15:23:21    2606867

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No two ways about it, that was an extremely poor showing from the U20s in the second half, were in a good position at HT given the wind that was to come but we were cleaned out all over the place, Simon Roche and Carley were the only two who were really able to make an impact on the game

Tbf, that looks like a very good Laois team and they have some very good players (Makes sense when you consider they made a Leinster Minor Final three years ago although I've no idea what they were doing in their first two U20 group games this year), their full-forward line won pretty much every ball that went into them (And yet we made no changes), their half-forward line were able to dominate our half-back line in the air, and they seemed to win every dirty ball in the game

I also have no idea what our approach was supposed to be in the second half, Laois had a shooting on sight policy in the first half with the wind, we seemed to only start doing that at the 50 minute mark. We scored 1-11 in the first half against the wind but only 0-07 with the wind in the second half, that is dismal

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 473 - 05/05/2025 15:25:04    2606868

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We were second best to Laois all over the field in the u20. Disappointing to go out like that.

WexMurph (Wexford) - Posts: 274 - 05/05/2025 15:25:24    2606869

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Actually defalted after u20 game. Better team won. Laois were up for the battle. Some of ours were not.

Tactically outplayed again imo.

Yellowhelmet (Australia) - Posts: 136 - 05/05/2025 16:36:52    2606880

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Replying To Magpie2:  "Doyler you are right about that particular poster and you are indeed a very knowledgeable analyst of the game.
However as I and others have disagreed with you about our defence, having thought about and debated with friends I honestly believe that our defence is our main problem. Yes I agree we were quite good defensively in our league games except against Cork. The truth is that the league and championship are really two different ball games.
During February and March when the pitches are slow and heavy defending is easier. When the ground is firm and the ball is flying defending becomes a lot harder.
And so that seems to be where our problems are.
Rossi said in an interview with people newspapers on Wednesday that our defending was shoddy at times. We do have good defenders individually but as a collective unit we make too many mistakes.
Loose marking. Ball watching, unable to cope with the high dropping ball into our full back line, inability to dominate in the air, over passing that often leads to been dispossessed and gives the opposition scoring opportunities.
Unless we improve in all of the above our problems will remain. So really our defence is our achills heel."
Yep.

My thoughts went to the Cork league game as being defensively pretty dire. We conceded 2.21, 23 scores and 27 points in total. We finished the league relegated with the 3rd worst score difference.

Fast forward to last Saturday night and we've gone on to concede 3.26, 29 scores and 35 points in total. To a team a division below us thus year who will remain a division below us next year and a team minus some of their best players. A

I believe it's the most we have conceded in a leinster championship game since Davys last game in charge of us in the leinster championship when Kilkenny annihilated us.

So defence is a huge issue, how can you say otherwise is beyond me.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1495 - 05/05/2025 16:37:23    2606881

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Replying To Hurler20:  "Does anyone think Wexford clubs will do well in feile st Anne's the division 1 winners look strong and have some very good players but might be to overwhelmed by the strong cork and Kilkenny sides the division 2 winners buffers alley look like they could do well in division 2 and are building a good side and I honestly don't know to much about the Geraldine o hanrahans"
In Wexford this year, so we have a good few clubs involved in division 1

WEX98 (Wexford) - Posts: 495 - 05/05/2025 16:47:44    2606883

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