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All Ireland Club Final, Kilmacud V Glen (Derry)

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Rules were not adhered to so replay should happen.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8812 - 25/01/2023 12:36:30    2454150

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "Ach now with the classy women we have in Ulster I'd hardly need to be heading down that way, I have no problem with Mayo people, what annoys me is the way Rte and most of the media down south slavers over them,
and the fact is they have been perpetual losers, I mean 2 or 3 times you could say you were unlucky or whatever, but to fail to win 12 finals in a row is it? some of them you should have pushed on and won but for whatever reason they found a way to balls it up.
Varley getting sent off in 2017 springs to mind, it wasn't even a decent punch, I don't think he knew what he was trying to do himself.
What Keegan done, throwing his Gps at Dean Rock, you can't tell me that's not a low life thing to do, to do it in any game never mind in the All Ireland final and there is no word about it? now tell me if that was a player from one of the big Ulster teams like Tyrone that done that how much of an outcry there would have been?
I'm glad this club final will be replayed, Kilmacud will be kicking themselves I'm sure, the replay should be in Derry unless Glen want to go back to Croker."
The time you waste posting about Mayo is hilarious. Even on this post repeating the same stuff over and over. Varley was gone from Mayo by 2017. You don't even have basic knowledge of the events you are talking about. Might be time for a new hobby lad.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8458 - 25/01/2023 13:00:38    2454155

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Replying To StopTheLights:  "If Glen scored a goal in the dying seconds would they have lodged an objection to winning due to Kilmacud having 16 players on the field?
They're only interested in being fair after all.
Thank god we have Northern teams looking out for the integrity of our game."
Nonsense post. Crokes should have the awareness to know that when they bring on a sub they take a player off. They broke the rules and need to face the repercussions. The player been substituted should have made it his business to remove himself from the play.

Mike_Clitoris69 (Cavan) - Posts: 230 - 25/01/2023 13:05:16    2454157

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "So here was the headline in a Dublin based national daily paper early this morning "NORTHERN IRELAND team to lodge objection to Croke Park". That tells you everything you need to know. The bitterness and downright hatred shown towards Ulster teams from many within the GAA and in the Southern media is venomous. If a replay comes about Glen should tog out and once the ball is thrown in then walk off the pitch. They will have made their point."
Can you please post the link to this article?

If not then this is just more hearsay from you.

Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 929 - 25/01/2023 13:05:31    2454158

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This all goes back to Meath winning the 2010 leinster when Joe Sheridan scored the Try. The GAA didn't act then and wont act now.

muckla (UK) - Posts: 370 - 25/01/2023 13:13:11    2454160

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Replying To Wally:  "Can you please post the link to this article?

If not then this is just more hearsay from you."
There's no such headline as far as I can see, Talk about over egging the pudding!

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3688 - 25/01/2023 13:26:29    2454165

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Replying To Wally:  "Can you please post the link to this article?

If not then this is just more hearsay from you."
If you're on Twitter it won't take much of a search to find it......pig and grunt comes to mind with that rotten lot

benched (Tyrone) - Posts: 534 - 25/01/2023 13:29:18    2454169

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Replying To StopTheLights:  "A Northern team would never do that, surely????"
would a southern, eastern or western team? As relevant a question as any you were asking.

benched (Tyrone) - Posts: 534 - 25/01/2023 13:35:16    2454170

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Replying To StopTheLights:  "If Glen scored a goal in the dying seconds would they have lodged an objection to winning due to Kilmacud having 16 players on the field?
They're only interested in being fair after all.
Thank god we have Northern teams looking out for the integrity of our game."
You need to get out more

benched (Tyrone) - Posts: 534 - 25/01/2023 13:36:19    2454171

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Replying To Wally:  "Can you please post the link to this article?

If not then this is just more hearsay from you."
Your monikor is very appropriate.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9825 - 25/01/2023 13:36:41    2454172

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "What paper was this?"
The Independent but they seem to have taken it down. I seen it for my own eyes. I'm not making this up.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9825 - 25/01/2023 13:38:36    2454173

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "So here was the headline in a Dublin based national daily paper early this morning "NORTHERN IRELAND team to lodge objection to Croke Park". That tells you everything you need to know. The bitterness and downright hatred shown towards Ulster teams from many within the GAA and in the Southern media is venomous. If a replay comes about Glen should tog out and once the ball is thrown in then walk off the pitch. They will have made their point."
Why lie? All papers are online and even the ones that aren't free you can see the headlines so show us it. If you can post on this forum you know how to copy and paste

Majority of people backing Glen on this (including dubs) people just aren't attacking Crokes. It was clearly an unintentional mistake when they were trying to run down the clock. Something most teams do and it has massively backfired on them

galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 1704 - 25/01/2023 13:42:03    2454177

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Replying To benched:  "If you're on Twitter it won't take much of a search to find it......pig and grunt comes to mind with that rotten lot"
Which paper was it? There's not that many of them.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3688 - 25/01/2023 13:42:41    2454178

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "The Independent but they seem to have taken it down. I seen it for my own eyes. I'm not making this up."
I'm sure you did lol.

Cause your track record is one of total non-bias and honesty!

Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 929 - 25/01/2023 13:42:47    2454179

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Replying To Wally:  "Can you please post the link to this article?

If not then this is just more hearsay from you."
Irish independent, its all over twitter a digusting post but lets be honest here its a rag of a paper and anti irish in sp many ways.

Yourjoking (USA) - Posts: 745 - 25/01/2023 13:43:39    2454180

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "The time you waste posting about Mayo is hilarious. Even on this post repeating the same stuff over and over. Varley was gone from Mayo by 2017. You don't even have basic knowledge of the events you are talking about. Might be time for a new hobby lad."
So Lee Keegan didn't throw his GPS at Dean Rock when he was taking the last free kick in an All Ireland Final?

Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 929 - 25/01/2023 13:44:57    2454181

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@Viking - So the committee in charge could have conducted an inquiry into it without Glen objecting ?

I don't know. Just had a quick look to try see under what circumstances the committee in charge can hold an inquiry, but didn't find anything. Anyway, the other rule still looks clearcut:

An Objection to the award of a Game may be made on behalf of a Team that participated in the Game concerned by the relevant Secretary. An objection may not be made otherwise by a member or any third party.

Am inclined to speculate the committee in charge could maybe hold an inquiry into there being 16 or 17 men on the field. But appropriate punishment for that (and that alone) would probably be a relatively small fine. Otherwise there's precedent set whereby any match could be ordered to be replayed if one lad was a bit slow going off the field while a sub was more eager to get on.

But that other rule seems clearcut that a third party (like the committee in charge) can't do anything about the award of the game. It's up to the team that participated to start that process.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2970 - 25/01/2023 13:56:46    2454187

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "The Independent but they seem to have taken it down. I seen it for my own eyes. I'm not making this up."
covenient

Jack L (None) - Posts: 3182 - 25/01/2023 13:57:17    2454188

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Replying To benched:  "If you're on Twitter it won't take much of a search to find it......pig and grunt comes to mind with that rotten lot"
Please post a link to such a tweet, then.

If you can find one.......

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2970 - 25/01/2023 14:08:46    2454192

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Some are trying to say that, under the rules, the CCCC are obliged to wait until one team submits an objection.

That is not correct.

A review can be instigated by appeal - or an "inquiry by the committee in charge", so the Central Competition Controls Committee (CCCC) easily could have chosen to investigate without a request from Glen.

The fact that they chose not to speaks volumes.

Do not hereafter tell me that bias does not exist.

As many others have noted, one only has to contrast the gleeful haste with which the CCCC pursues any infraction by players from Northern counties and their wilful sitting-on-hands approach here.

If a replay does go ahead, it will be interesting to see how the referee approaches it.

points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet (Tyrone) - Posts: 303 - 25/01/2023 14:11:06    2454193

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