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All Ireland Club Final, Kilmacud V Glen (Derry)

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Replying To Ulsterman: "The Independent but they seem to have taken it down. I seen it for my own eyes. I'm not making this up." Well that's that sorted. Optician for you sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 683 - 25/01/2023 14:14:30 2454194 Link
Replying To Ulsterman: "The Independent but they seem to have taken it down. I seen it for my own eyes. I'm not making this up." Specsavers my lad ASAP. seamusorinn (USA) - Posts: 295 - 25/01/2023 14:18:04 2454198 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "There's no such headline as far as I can see, Talk about over egging the pudding!" It was in the Irish Independent, it's since been taken down. It referenced glen as a northern Irish gaelic team, its all over twitter. Yourjoking (USA) - Posts: 705 - 25/01/2023 14:21:25 2454199 Link
Replying To Pikeman96: "Please post a link to such a tweet, then. If you can find one......." Ronan McNamee from Tyrone and Jerome Quinn have tweets about it - since been deleted honda15 (Longford) - Posts: 94 - 25/01/2023 14:32:01 2454202 Link
Replying To Proudroyal: "While I agree with you that Glen will look back and rue the missed chances,dont know how you can say the 16th player didn't interfere with play.They had 16 players on the pitch hence an extra man so how can they not have an advantage v 15 men?While the officials are getting the blame (rightly so)you do wonder why the Crokes sideline didn't call the player off.I know its heat of battle and so much going on but I'd say the line will be kicking themselves.I do feel sorry for Crokes players won and celebrated winning the all Ireland and now it looks like they will have to do it again.Im not sure Glen will care much if they win the replay as it's now an entirely different game and wont see it as tarnished.Its a real shame a good final ended like this but I suppose strange things happen in sport." So you're saying if Glen win the title after a replay, it's not tarnished? If it does happen it will always be remembered for the wrong reasons, hence why it will always have an asterix beside it unfortunately. TaytoFoley (Leitrim) - Posts: 83 - 25/01/2023 14:36:54 2454206 Link
Replying To Wally: "So Lee Keegan didn't throw his GPS at Dean Rock when he was taking the last free kick in an All Ireland Final?" We forgive him ;) Dean still nailed it and if anything it made it all the sweeter. There was a huge rivalry and yep.. no doubt, made it all the sweeter indeed. Although no doubt.. even in terms of World Sport! It's up there as one of the greatest examples of poor sportsmanship Ive ever seen.. think about it, you see far lesser examples of such antics on YouTube with millions of views. Lee Keegan can thank his lucky stars that Gaelic Football is such an unknown sport, it's the type of clip that could make you notorious online and put your name out there in a very unfavorable light but in Ireland and the GAA world its the type of thing that can be purposely played down and downright ignored What he did was outrageous. He really got away with it because of the "poor Mayo" awkwardness and the fact that it was carried out against Dublin. jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 25/01/2023 14:39:09 2454207 Link
Replying To points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet: "Some are trying to say that, under the rules, the CCCC are obliged to wait until one team submits an objection. That is not correct. A review can be instigated by appeal - or an "inquiry by the committee in charge", so the Central Competition Controls Committee (CCCC) easily could have chosen to investigate without a request from Glen. The fact that they chose not to speaks volumes. Do not hereafter tell me that bias does not exist. As many others have noted, one only has to contrast the gleeful haste with which the CCCC pursues any infraction by players from Northern counties and their wilful sitting-on-hands approach here. If a replay does go ahead, it will be interesting to see how the referee approaches it." I don't disagree there is not sometimes a bias but I think the scenario would still have been the same had that been a small club from Monaghan, Roscommon or Clare. I think it is more to do with Kilmacud being a big club, a big club from Dublin at that, who are just after winning for the first time in over a decade after the heart break of last year and no one in the GAA had the spine to say we need to take responsibility for this instead of leaving it to the other club. I think the GAA were hoping this would just go away, that Glen would let it lie and that they wouldn't have to be the one's to ruin the Kilmacud party. I feel sympathy for Kilmacud, they won the game and no doubt celebrated after, which probably meant a lot after what happended last year. But the GAA needed to step in here to uphold the rules. It's now Wednesday. This should have been sorted on Monday. MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 784 - 25/01/2023 14:40:16 2454208 Link
If the Indo did put that up it wouldn't surprise me.. Very poor form if they did. jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 25/01/2023 14:41:15 2454209 Link
Kilmacud made no attempt to solve this by offering a replay in the interest of sportsmanship. There was an absence of media pressure on them. Indo state Glen's appeal was a shock. F FS .Now if the outcome as per the rules is forfeiture. And they hypocritically put pressure on Glen to offer a replay they should have to take a hike. Ashrules (Dublin) - Posts: 518 - 25/01/2023 14:42:41 2454210 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "The time you waste posting about Mayo is hilarious. Even on this post repeating the same stuff over and over. Varley was gone from Mayo by 2017. You don't even have basic knowledge of the events you are talking about. Might be time for a new hobby lad." Vaughan I meant to say obviously but you knew that anyway, tell me if anything else I posted there is factually incorrect? Mayo are are always good for a laugh alright, the gift that keeps on giving as they say. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2748 - 25/01/2023 14:57:44 2454216 Link
No-one is questioning the fact about the infringement of the rules. The fact that there is a conversation about the procedure and consequences of playing any part of any game at any time with an illegal number of players on the pitch, shows how weak and ambiguous the rules are. Or how weak the administrators of the rules are. Been factious you would wonder are they done on the back of a cigarette box by a few guys in the pub feeling no pain. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2660 - 25/01/2023 15:13:07 2454217 Link
Replying To jimbodub: "We forgive him ;) Dean still nailed it and if anything it made it all the sweeter. There was a huge rivalry and yep.. no doubt, made it all the sweeter indeed. Although no doubt.. even in terms of World Sport! It's up there as one of the greatest examples of poor sportsmanship Ive ever seen.. think about it, you see far lesser examples of such antics on YouTube with millions of views. Lee Keegan can thank his lucky stars that Gaelic Football is such an unknown sport, it's the type of clip that could make you notorious online and put your name out there in a very unfavorable light but in Ireland and the GAA world its the type of thing that can be purposely played down and downright ignored What he did was outrageous. He really got away with it because of the "poor Mayo" awkwardness and the fact that it was carried out against Dublin." Spot on Jimbo, my point exactly, I'm sick to death of Rte and other journalists slabering over Mayo, Dublin winning multiple All Irelands seemed less of a story than poor oul Mayo failing again. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48KbVIFEFnU Keegan is now going to be an Rte pundit, he's a great role model for sportsmanship alright, ah but sure the creater never won an All Ireland so we'll bring him on the Late late and make him an Rte pundit, it would have been interesting if Tubridy had asked him about throwing his gps at Dean Rock, if Rock had missed that kick it would have had the spotlight shone on it but as it happened Rock had the skill and class to ignore Keegan and land that brilliant winner. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2748 - 25/01/2023 15:16:01 2454218 Link
Replying To Pikeman96: "@Viking - So the committee in charge could have conducted an inquiry into it without Glen objecting ? I don't know. Just had a quick look to try see under what circumstances the committee in charge can hold an inquiry, but didn't find anything. Anyway, the other rule still looks clearcut: An Objection to the award of a Game may be made on behalf of a Team that participated in the Game concerned by the relevant Secretary. An objection may not be made otherwise by a member or any third party. Am inclined to speculate the committee in charge could maybe hold an inquiry into there being 16 or 17 men on the field. But appropriate punishment for that (and that alone) would probably be a relatively small fine. Otherwise there's precedent set whereby any match could be ordered to be replayed if one lad was a bit slow going off the field while a sub was more eager to get on. But that other rule seems clearcut that a third party (like the committee in charge) can't do anything about the award of the game. It's up to the team that participated to start that process." Thanks for the clarification Pikeman! Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11864 - 25/01/2023 15:18:23 2454220 Link
Replying To TaytoFoley: "So you're saying if Glen win the title after a replay, it's not tarnished? If it does happen it will always be remembered for the wrong reasons, hence why it will always have an asterix beside it unfortunately." Do you not think if the game is replayed then the winner will have fully deserved it.Its a new game.Of course it would be hard on Crokes if they lost the replay but it was their mistake that led to them having 17 men on the pitch(1 not disrupting play)but the other one certainly was.I dont think any Glen player will care about it if they win the replay.The rules were broken,three ways give the cup to Glen(which is extremely harsh on Crokes)Number 2 is fine the Crokes which I think would mean more teams will do it in the future and say let's just pay the fine.3 is have a replay and for me that is the fairest option.Also on your point about it been tarnished could you not say the same now about the Crokes they have won but alit of people think unfairly.If that's the case fo our ans win the replay and no one can take that away from you.Just my thoughts on it and everyone is entitled to their own. Proudroyal (Meath) - Posts: 256 - 25/01/2023 15:19:55 2454221 Link
Replying To jimbodub: "If the Indo did put that up it wouldn't surprise me.. Very poor form if they did." Seem to be alot of posters on twitter and all over the world saw it Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11864 - 25/01/2023 15:20:10 2454222 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Seem to be alot of posters on twitter and all over the world saw it" If it is through I hope the posters on here are big enough to apologize to "Ulsteman" for the mud slung at him. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2660 - 25/01/2023 15:31:51 2454225 Link
Replying To TaytoFoley: "So you're saying if Glen win the title after a replay, it's not tarnished? If it does happen it will always be remembered for the wrong reasons, hence why it will always have an asterix beside it unfortunately." was there an astrix when Offaly won there all ireland in 1998. No way lad. clare_sparrow (Galway) - Posts: 426 - 25/01/2023 15:34:29 2454226 Link
Replying To Canuck: "No-one is questioning the fact about the infringement of the rules. The fact that there is a conversation about the procedure and consequences of playing any part of any game at any time with an illegal number of players on the pitch, shows how weak and ambiguous the rules are. Or how weak the administrators of the rules are. Been factious you would wonder are they done on the back of a cigarette box by a few guys in the pub feeling no pain." The rules were drawn up back in a time when there was more honesty in society. Less lawyers involved in every facet of life. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11864 - 25/01/2023 15:35:27 2454227 Link
"The All Ireland Club final looks set to be replayed between Kilmacud Crokes and Glen looks set to be replayed with the Northern Ireland Club ready to object to last Sundays encounter" So the independent did run this headline and have rightfully removed it. Had they said Ulster Club fine thats how we're split in the GAA. Teams arent referred to by being republic or northern Ireland. I personally can see how it's the wrong headline but view it as someone seriously lacking cop on BUT I'm from Galway so who am I to say that people shouldn't be too offended by it. Not my place galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 1678 - 25/01/2023 15:40:33 2454229 Link
It was wrote by Conor McKeon a Dublin journalist. Maybe a bit prickly about how things have went FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2763 - 25/01/2023 15:53:48 2454231 Link