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Replying To Viking66:  "Jack has looked terrible every time he's played in the backs this year. Joe has hardly played at all this year. Kevin isn't a back unless he plays sweeper, which isn't really a back position but more an extra man to help out the backs and either bring or pass the ball forwards. Carty is a wingback but is a very good centreback he played there at u21 and plays there for his club so could cover there if Damien went off injured. Your bench has no cover for the fullback line apart from Joe who hasn't played or even trained hardly after being away for a year and was dropped off the panel before being asked back after all the injuries in the Cork game, and Simon or MOH if Carty came on wingback."
Flood has played wingback before but is a more natural forward minded player.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15762 - 31/03/2023 14:40:41    2468004

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Replying To Viking66:  "Jack has looked terrible every time he's played in the backs this year. Joe has hardly played at all this year. Kevin isn't a back unless he plays sweeper, which isn't really a back position but more an extra man to help out the backs and either bring or pass the ball forwards. Carty is a wingback but is a very good centreback he played there at u21 and plays there for his club so could cover there if Damien went off injured. Your bench has no cover for the fullback line apart from Joe who hasn't played or even trained hardly after being away for a year and was dropped off the panel before being asked back after all the injuries in the Cork game, and Simon or MOH if Carty came on wingback."
Flood has played wingback before but is a more natural forward minded player. For talks sake if Clare start Hayes, Cleary and Flanagan they have Nolan and Hogan as cover for the fullback line. And of the Munster counties they are probably the lightest on cover for the back 6 positions.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15762 - 31/03/2023 14:42:14    2468006

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Replying To Past hurler:  "Conor Hearne will be 100% be starting for Egan and rightly so.

He is good for a point or two and has a lot more in his legs than McGovern who could give us a good 25mins from the bench.

Rory Higgins won't start ahead of Mikey Dwyer or Cathal Dunbar

Other than that it is a good team."
yeah there all tight calls to be fair, taught Liam Og was outstanding in the championship last year and funnily I think Hearne can give that bounce from the bench, think Dunbar is playing better at the moment out to field rather than FF line, taught Higgins did well in the league was good against Westmeath, Clare (himself and Dunbar 2 best players that day) and Cork. I wasn't at the Limerick game myself.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 31/03/2023 15:33:10    2468015

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "yeah there all tight calls to be fair, taught Liam Og was outstanding in the championship last year and funnily I think Hearne can give that bounce from the bench, think Dunbar is playing better at the moment out to field rather than FF line, taught Higgins did well in the league was good against Westmeath, Clare (himself and Dunbar 2 best players that day) and Cork. I wasn't at the Limerick game myself."
Higgins did OK in Limerick defensively but got no ball played into him from an attacking point of view.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15762 - 31/03/2023 15:42:59    2468019

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Replying To Viking66:  "Jack has looked terrible every time he's played in the backs this year. Joe has hardly played at all this year. Kevin isn't a back unless he plays sweeper, which isn't really a back position but more an extra man to help out the backs and either bring or pass the ball forwards. Carty is a wingback but is a very good centreback he played there at u21 and plays there for his club so could cover there if Damien went off injured. Your bench has no cover for the fullback line apart from Joe who hasn't played or even trained hardly after being away for a year and was dropped off the panel before being asked back after all the injuries in the Cork game, and Simon or MOH if Carty came on wingback."
Donohoe and Damien Reck (worst case scenario) could cover corner back positions, its the same as rugby where teams might not half a out half on the bench as their 2nd choice could be starting a full back or centre and slot in if needed.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 31/03/2023 15:50:07    2468022

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Replying To Viking66:  "You are very light on backs on the bench TerribleFootwork. What about Clarke and Niall Murphy?"
In fairness Niall Murphy and Joe O'Connor would be a 50/50 call for the bench, think Clarke suffered a bit from the Clare game didn't start after against Cork or Limerick.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 31/03/2023 16:56:37    2468035

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Donohoe and Damien Reck (worst case scenario) could cover corner back positions, its the same as rugby where teams might not half a out half on the bench as their 2nd choice could be starting a full back or centre and slot in if needed."
Any serious rugby team will have a 9 and 10 on the bench. But yes Damien, Matt or Simon could play cornerback or Matt fullback.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15762 - 31/03/2023 17:14:02    2468036

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Replying To Viking66:  "Higgins did OK in Limerick defensively but got no ball played into him from an attacking point of view."
No ball in to the Wexford full forward line from an attacking point of view? Surely not..............

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1340 - 31/03/2023 17:18:20    2468037

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Replying To Viking66:  "Any serious rugby team will have a 9 and 10 on the bench. But yes Damien, Matt or Simon could play cornerback or Matt fullback."
Not necessarily, common for teams to go 6-2 forwards backs split on the bench, when England beat Zealand in 2019 World Cup they started Ford at 10, Farrell 12 and had no out half on the bench.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 31/03/2023 21:46:02    2468064

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Not necessarily, common for teams to go 6-2 forwards backs split on the bench, when England beat Zealand in 2019 World Cup they started Ford at 10, Farrell 12 and had no out half on the bench."
Is that not the exception that proves the rule?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15762 - 01/04/2023 08:41:21    2468077

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Good luck to the minors today. Can't make it what kind of a team do we have. I know we won well last week but against a team only finding their feet.

Wexfordgaa (Wexford) - Posts: 364 - 01/04/2023 11:06:49    2468095

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Replying To Wexfordgaa:  "Good luck to the minors today. Can't make it what kind of a team do we have. I know we won well last week but against a team only finding their feet."
It looks a similar team to last week. I got the 40 euro underage pass so once I make 4 u20 and minor games home or away it will have paid for itself! It says its valid for all minor and u20 games

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15762 - 01/04/2023 11:38:15    2468097

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Interesting that there is only one player from the main towns on the minor team today.
Not even one on the bench and only one in the extended panel.
I know it changes from year to year but surely with big populations there should be more representation from our major towns.
This is not a reflection on the rural players but balance would be desirable.

Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 455 - 01/04/2023 11:52:54    2468100

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Was only able to see the second half of the game on YouTube, looks like it was played in fairly attritional conditions so hard to really glean that much from it IMO. If there was one criticism I had, it was that we conceded an absolute bucketload of frees; Dublin only scored two points from play in the second half (Conditions were bad but think they had the wind advantage) so conceding frees very nearly proved costly.

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 501 - 01/04/2023 16:30:01    2468152

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Replying To Magpie2:  "Interesting that there is only one player from the main towns on the minor team today.
Not even one on the bench and only one in the extended panel.
I know it changes from year to year but surely with big populations there should be more representation from our major towns.
This is not a reflection on the rural players but balance would be desirable."
On the towns thing definitely in wexford town the majority of underage players are now living on the outskirts of town therefore . StMatins Glynnbarntown and shels numbers have exploded over the years since the celtic tiger . The town itself does nt have the underage selection it once had . Coupled eith the interest foes nt seem to be there and possibly not all kids of Irish origin nd see ur as tradition . Think clubs in town have tried everything to generate the interest in both codes . Football numbers do seem to be ok but nothing like the satellite clubs numbers . There are cases of towns people bringing their kids to the satellite clubs for whatever reason .

Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 360 - 01/04/2023 19:19:59    2468176

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "Was only able to see the second half of the game on YouTube, looks like it was played in fairly attritional conditions so hard to really glean that much from it IMO. If there was one criticism I had, it was that we conceded an absolute bucketload of frees; Dublin only scored two points from play in the second half (Conditions were bad but think they had the wind advantage) so conceding frees very nearly proved costly."
Good solid win. Well done to the boys. Need to win against offaly now do.

hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1135 - 01/04/2023 19:24:07    2468178

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Regarding the minors a win is a win as they say..
Dublin IMO were marginally better, had more scoring chances and more wides .
We got a very fortunate early goal when the Dublin Goalie dropped one into his net and after 15 mins we were 1.03 to 0.00 up and at that stage playing well.
Dublin then took over and other than Jamie Doyle we had no real threat up front.
This was the story of the game until we made a few subs which improved matters.
Two things we need to improve on immensely are creating goal chances which I can't remember us doing today and cutting back on needless frees .
Our half back line was very good with the full back line also quite good.
Goalie solid with 1 very good save.
Probably need to shuffle the decks from 8 upwards to get the best out of this bunch.
Was a game that they could easily have lost in the end but they refused to be beaten and that is my main positive of the match.

Paull (Wexford) - Posts: 201 - 01/04/2023 19:46:44    2468184

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Replying To Formertownie:  "On the towns thing definitely in wexford town the majority of underage players are now living on the outskirts of town therefore . StMatins Glynnbarntown and shels numbers have exploded over the years since the celtic tiger . The town itself does nt have the underage selection it once had . Coupled eith the interest foes nt seem to be there and possibly not all kids of Irish origin nd see ur as tradition . Think clubs in town have tried everything to generate the interest in both codes . Football numbers do seem to be ok but nothing like the satellite clubs numbers . There are cases of towns people bringing their kids to the satellite clubs for whatever reason ."
Wexford Town has a population of 25,000 approx.Enniscorthy,New Ross and Gorey which is one of the fastest growing towns in Ireland are well populated
Yes, the satellite areas are sizable but it's no excuse for poor representation on our minor team.
I understand that underage in The Harriers is huge.
Not sure about the numbers game in the other towns but I would think that The Rapps and Naoimh Eanna are healthy enough. Therefore there is no excuse for not having a good sprinkling of players from the towns on our minor team.

Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 455 - 01/04/2023 20:36:14    2468191

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Replying To Paull:  "Regarding the minors a win is a win as they say..
Dublin IMO were marginally better, had more scoring chances and more wides .
We got a very fortunate early goal when the Dublin Goalie dropped one into his net and after 15 mins we were 1.03 to 0.00 up and at that stage playing well.
Dublin then took over and other than Jamie Doyle we had no real threat up front.
This was the story of the game until we made a few subs which improved matters.
Two things we need to improve on immensely are creating goal chances which I can't remember us doing today and cutting back on needless frees .
Our half back line was very good with the full back line also quite good.
Goalie solid with 1 very good save.
Probably need to shuffle the decks from 8 upwards to get the best out of this bunch.
Was a game that they could easily have lost in the end but they refused to be beaten and that is my main positive of the match."
Yeah fair summary taught our backs were really good but forwards struggled, conditions probably a factor in that, I know our Dublin friend ExiledInWex mentioned he knows parents of those involved in the Dublin minor team, hope someone in the Dublin management have a word with some of their subs from today who were whistling and jeering when Wexford took frees close to them in the last 10 mins of the match.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 01/04/2023 20:53:48    2468197

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Replying To Paull:  "Regarding the minors a win is a win as they say..
Dublin IMO were marginally better, had more scoring chances and more wides .
We got a very fortunate early goal when the Dublin Goalie dropped one into his net and after 15 mins we were 1.03 to 0.00 up and at that stage playing well.
Dublin then took over and other than Jamie Doyle we had no real threat up front.
This was the story of the game until we made a few subs which improved matters.
Two things we need to improve on immensely are creating goal chances which I can't remember us doing today and cutting back on needless frees .
Our half back line was very good with the full back line also quite good.
Goalie solid with 1 very good save.
Probably need to shuffle the decks from 8 upwards to get the best out of this bunch.
Was a game that they could easily have lost in the end but they refused to be beaten and that is my main positive of the match."
19 was very good when he came on. Needs to get a bit bigger though. Although our starting 15 matched theirs for size which was good to see. Bad weather for hurling. Both sides played with great intensity as regards hooking, blocking, and tackling. Noone seemed to get much time on the ball. As a team from the front back we defended well. We overplayed the ball looking for goals when points were maybe a better option, but Dublin did the same also. Plenty to work on.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15762 - 02/04/2023 09:13:29    2468213

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