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Wexford Intercounty Hurling 2023

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "I still think Egans time is up.

Beginning to hear rumblings around the camp of indiscipline and being too friendly with the lads.

He hung the players twice in national media.

The treatment of dee is too much for me. Particularly when the dublin and Westmeath games were crying out for somebody of his experience to steady the ship.

I also can't understand why Richie or Charlie weren't introduced when Westmeath started getting on top in midfield, which is where the long balls game from.

Finally, the fact we were so dominant in those games but lost our confidence is physiological and purely rests with the managent team.

I'd rather see a wexford man in charge. We need somebody who understands how to get the best out of us.

I'd also note the pre match on Sunday.

I was slated for saying wexford songs were important and look what happened.

It's bigger than sport. It's a culture and and successful wexford man knows that. Griffin most of all with brave heart and the speeches."
Rather than Ritchie and Charlie Dee and Kevin should've been on as soon as Westmeath got their 1-2 or 1-3. Should've started both really. Agree about Wexford hurling being about more than just a game though!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15785 - 01/06/2023 15:53:28    2483399

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Replying To countyman2022:  "You cant understand why Charlie was not introduced? How many Wex matches have you been at the last 2 years?"
In fairness he's good at stopping other lads winning clean ball. It's what he does when he has the ball is the problem. Hopefully that will come right with experience and maturity.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15785 - 01/06/2023 15:55:34    2483401

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Replying To countyman2022:  "You cant understand why Charlie was not introduced? How many Wex matches have you been at the last 2 years?"
All of them.

He had a decent league which is more than can be said for some.

He's also an exceptionally hard work which is what that game needed

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3590 - 01/06/2023 15:57:54    2483404

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Replying To wexfordwin:  "Flannery is a great shout. He knows the Wexford scene well and has a track record of success."
Frank Flannery was in for the job when Davy got it. He's moved back to Carrigtwohill and is managing them this year after winning a Championshipwith Kanturk. Long commute from there to Ferns.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15785 - 01/06/2023 15:59:42    2483405

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Replying To Viking66:  "Frank Flannery was in for the job when Davy got it. He's moved back to Carrigtwohill and is managing them this year after winning a Championshipwith Kanturk. Long commute from there to Ferns."
Tom Mullally.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 795 - 01/06/2023 16:02:40    2483406

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Replying To countyman2022:  "Tom Mullally."
That's who I'd like to see get the job. Whether he'd leave Carlow is the problem not sure how long he signed up with them for.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15785 - 01/06/2023 16:26:02    2483415

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Can't see him leaving Carlow job to take the Wexford job, no offence meant I just doubt it would sit well with most managers.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1341 - 01/06/2023 16:48:15    2483421

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Replying To Viking66:  "He only seemed to pick lads from about 4 clubs the last time he was Wexford manager though Beano?"
I knew him when he was managing in Dublin. Sound man. Met him later in Gorey when Dublin beat Wexford in Walsh cup one year, and he was not pleased at all!

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3531 - 01/06/2023 18:58:23    2483457

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Replying To WEX98:  "Match from the stand side

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdxldM-MgQc&ab_channel=VideosGorey"
That's really well done WEX98 just watched it there now.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15785 - 01/06/2023 21:26:13    2483466

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Replying To tearintom:  "Yep its a valid point.

I was told on sunday that it was between Joe Fortune and Darragh Egan back when Egan got the job and Egan was the preferred candidate. You could argue neither has pushed forward their credentials substantially subsequently.

The only caveat in that is the argument about expectations within both counties, what constitutes success in Westmeath is or at least should be very different to what constitutes success in Wexford.

If Egan remains then a tweaking of his backroom would not just be preferred but essential imho. The prospect of Sheedy coming in as advisor/selector etc is one thats interesting mind but not sure how viable it is."
Was there alot of rumour around Willie Maher around the time too? I wouldn't take this as 100% gospel but was told 5 people interviewed for the job when Egan got it, the bit I'm particularly suspect of was being told 1 of them was Shefflin.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 02/06/2023 00:00:02    2483478

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Replying To beano:  "Was just thinking of a few external candidates, a couple left field choices, should, as expected, Egan steps away. Would be doing local lads a dis-service mentioning them with club campaigns around the corner:

Brian Cody. Yes he seems like Mr.Kilkenny. But no-one would have envisaged Mickey Harte ever rocking up to Louth, nor Micko going to Laois and Wicklow. I admit being one of those who felt that the modern game had by-passed him towards the end of his reign, but one thing is for sure- our fundamental skill levels will surely improve, and our work-rate would be consistent across all games. Maybe unlikely, but has Wexford connections, and I see him as a stop-gap measure while blooding a successor within the setup.

Anthony Cunningham- very versatile coach who always struck me as a fella who takes no nonsense. Guided Garrycastle to an All Ireland club football final (where they were beaten by a black and amber dynastical team) and brought Galway to two All Ireland hurling final (where they were beaten by a black and amber dynsatical team twice). Won a Connacht with Roscommon. Is now with Portarlington so perhaps he is focused on football.

John Myler- I know his last tenure ended acrimoniously, but a lot of water has gone under the bridge since. Again, seems like a bread and butter figure, will definitely get intensity out of the lads. Seems to be able to adjust tactically game per game too. Having knowledge of the Wexford club scene stands him in good stead. Proper hurling man, regarded so highly in Cork he is in charge of a lot of their underage development.

Darragh O'Sullivan- guided Ballygunner to their All Ireland title a couple of years ago, playing a fantastic brand of hurling along the way. Interestingly, David Franks was part of that set-up and he is in with our under-20s at the moment. May be happy with his lot there, and wouldn't blame him.

Michael Fennelly- steadied the ship somewhat in his only intercounty post with Offaly. Probably lacks the experience a bit like Egan, but again he'd have the basics down to a tee. Would a Kilkenny man take the Wexford role though?

Liam Sheedy- mentioned here before. Maybe a consultancy role, doing his good mate a favour? Wouldn't be undermining Egan's position at all, and he might impart the small little things Egan hasn't learned yet.

We need someone who can tactically adapt to the opposition, can strike a balance between keeping us tight defensively but getting a tune out of Chin, ROC etc. Get more consistency in our performance. Get puck-out routines and general basics spot on. We also need someone who garners respect from the players in training but isn't too "pally" if you get me. Can't be going on the beer with them after matches and things like that- disconnect themselves from the socialising side."
Cody would 1000% not get involved in another Liam McCarthy team, he'd be alot more likely to help someone like Kildare in Christy Ring next year, heard Fennelly is taking a role within the Kilkenny county board, something to the effect of a high performance director so that would essentially rule him out getting involved in another county. Tom Mullaly wouldn't be a bad shout although i reckon he won't be available til 2025 at the earliest.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 02/06/2023 00:10:34    2483480

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Replying To WEX98:  "Match from the stand side

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdxldM-MgQc&ab_channel=VideosGorey"
Just looked at it there and TJ Reid didn't actually throw the ball at the end, it was a clean handpass.

But then again, we got no luck all year so we were due some.

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 505 - 02/06/2023 00:24:05    2483481

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Its amazing how it went from needing to understand what the issues were with Wexford hurling as we haven't won an All Ireland in 27 years (next year we will equal the gap to the last barren spell) to, lets change the manager and it will be all right.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1973 - 02/06/2023 02:28:50    2483483

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Replying To countyman2022:  "Tom Mullally."
What about John Conran a good solid Wexford man.?

Tiger1 (Wexford) - Posts: 342 - 02/06/2023 07:26:44    2483487

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https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2023/06/02/wexford-unhappy-with-one-size-fits-all-gaa-development-funding/

Interesting article

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15785 - 02/06/2023 08:33:35    2483495

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Replying To Viking66:  "That's who I'd like to see get the job. Whether he'd leave Carlow is the problem not sure how long he signed up with them for."
Genuine question- If Offaly won with fourteen men-last Saturday - would he still be the person you would pick?

wexfordwin (Wexford) - Posts: 191 - 02/06/2023 09:24:08    2483500

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "Just looked at it there and TJ Reid didn't actually throw the ball at the end, it was a clean handpass.

But then again, we got no luck all year so we were due some."
We definitely got a few calls in our favour last Sunday and the crowd probably helped with that but as you said we got very little luck all year and deserved that one !!

wexfordwin (Wexford) - Posts: 191 - 02/06/2023 10:08:54    2483513

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Replying To Viking66:  "https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2023/06/02/wexford-unhappy-with-one-size-fits-all-gaa-development-funding/

Interesting article"
It's a real issue. Funding is based largely on number of player registrations in a county.

Here, most players only have to register once if they want to play both football and hurling, since most clubs are dual clubs.

But in other counties, they'd have to register twice - once with a football club, and once with a hurling club. That means they're counted twice for funding purposes, and so the county gets twice as much money for them as Wexford would get.

It's a crazy situation, and as the Chairman points out in that piece, Croke Park have been refusing to budge on it.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2858 - 02/06/2023 10:11:58    2483514

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Replying To wexfordwin:  "We definitely got a few calls in our favour last Sunday and the crowd probably helped with that but as you said we got very little luck all year and deserved that one !!"
Crowd doesn't matter people say.....
It matters every day. It mattered v Clare last year. It mattered v Offaly this year. Both winnable games, and crowd found wanting in both.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1341 - 02/06/2023 10:27:00    2483517

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "I knew him when he was managing in Dublin. Sound man. Met him later in Gorey when Dublin beat Wexford in Walsh cup one year, and he was not pleased at all!"
Don't know him but yes I know people who do know him they said he was sound and hurling mad!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15785 - 02/06/2023 10:48:08    2483525

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