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Players completely at fault here i know they worked hard but taking lesser teams for granted has always being a problem in wexford where the players completely lack desire .They will happy now they can go and book there early holidays for themselves and take a long rest and come back next year and try and win the joe mc donagh because if we dont beat kilkenny and antrim beat westmeath we are going down and i hate to say thats very likely.

Wexpurebred (Wexford) - Posts: 205 - 21/05/2023 18:18:20    2480103

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Wow.....I said a few weeks ago that some commentator that said were in danger of falling into Joe Mac in next few years was raving and being very extreme..we'll were 70 mins away from that now. Hurling has hit some lows in this county in my time but this is the lowest. Galway put 6-33 past them, Kilkenny another cricket score, galway and Kilkenny put more cricket scores on Antrim, we beat them 4 points and lads were happy with that. We try compare ourselves to the two and were not even in the same league as them when it comes to playing when it matters amd consistency. There is an awful loser mentality in parts of this county, that will try put a positive spin on this and say this is because of Davy, no fans showed up etc. Sometimes you have to call out stuff when it's obviously falling apart. Even good and all as the u20s were, they played 6 games and lost 3 of them (Beat Westmeath and Kilkenny without their senior players) it wasn't like we were on some incredible run with them either. Just need to call out all this bs this being pedaled around. I've been to a few underage games at u14/15/16s and in some cases were playing the big counties second teams with our first teams, shows the low standing other counties have in our underage coming up. Schools is a joke, I don't think I've ever seen our schools as uncompetitive. The 00s had some lows but our clubs, underage, schools etc were still amongst some of the best in Leinster. The Bonnar years were awful but I don't think we ever threatened falling off a cliff like this. Free falls can be stopped and turned around a county with as big an interest and desire as Wexford, Offaly have shown this, but why oh God do we have to hit rock bottom before it finally becomes an issue. This game v Kilkenny is the biggest game Wexford will have played since 96 all Ireland final, this is bigger than any Leinster final or semi finals these lads have played in. I genuinely hope Wexford people do get out for the game and realize the significance of this game. But there needs to be some serious restructuring done at all levels, tipping along is no good. Even if we win v Kilkenny don't let this gloss over the worst hurling year in Wexford that I can remember. Beating Kilkenny glossed over last year and warning signs were there loosing to Dublin at home and drawing with Westmeath.

Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin (Wexford) - Posts: 318 - 21/05/2023 18:31:23    2480109

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Replying To theboys:  "What was wrong with minor set up???"
sorry nothing, it's a total example of professionalism

tonydoranfan (Wexford) - Posts: 550 - 21/05/2023 18:34:06    2480111

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Replying To theboys:  "What was wrong with minor set up???"
not just the minor or hurling,
full overhaul of wexford underage academy needed, both codes,
this year's minor hurling was just an example of everything wrong with wexford gaa

tonydoranfan (Wexford) - Posts: 550 - 21/05/2023 18:39:57    2480116

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Replying To theboys:  "What was wrong with minor set up???"
we lost to a poor kilkenny team, need anymore

tonydoranfan (Wexford) - Posts: 550 - 21/05/2023 18:40:46    2480117

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I'm not one to kick a team or someone when they're down but the county board has to take the flack for this in my opinion. You can't expect to take ona. Young man with no managerial experience at any level really at adult level and expect to do anything. It was an horrendous decision from day one and I'm still baffled by it.
Hopefully wexford put some pride back in the jersey next week

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 21/05/2023 18:59:40    2480125

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Replying To Fulgrim:  "Me too, been a season ticket for a good few years now. Followed this team all over. Between the disappointment of the u20s and today I honestly feel done. Will probably take a day off work and skip club training this week. Not to be dramatic but that was utterly depressing. Lowest I've ever felt following Wexford."
Get down to the field Mon/Tues evening and watch the youngsters play...the enjoyment and enthusiasm on display will get you going again.

16 points up at half time against a Westmeath team getting regular hidings this year...only Wexford could somehow contrive to lose that. Warning signs were there v Antrim if we are honest. It's easy to blame Egan, his reign has been a disaster really, but the real problems are a lot more deep rooted that that. Hopefully this is rock bottom, a bit like Limerick under Justin McCarthy with strikes and all that. For me Wexford GAA has been deluding itself for years. Standards have to rise at all levels, not the fixation with KK, but what it takes to be consistently competitive. There's no quick fix either, most of those u20s (who had a narrow win v Westmeath) are still a bit off the required level for senior, ages 22-25 there aren't too many lads there to come in and hold their own.

Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 407 - 21/05/2023 19:03:38    2480127

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "That's it. I'm done."
Me too.

Shocking 2nd half. Some players were more interested in going up field to contribute to pushing and shoving than playing the game.

No game plan in the 2nd half.

Unfortunately we are just not up to it. I said it after the antrim match. Our level is now with westmeath and antrim etc.

Fair play to Joe fortune and westmeath. Completely changed their game plan in the 2nd half and we never reacted to it.

Had the kids at every game this year and they don't want to go to kilkenny match. 10 and 12 year olds losing interest in the team.

Egan won't be around next year. A manager needs to be appointed before the club championship with a backroom team that will actually go to senior and intermediate games. Source new talent and start all over again.

Do we honestly think we have the best 25 players in the county on the panel?

Utterly depressed after that.

No way in hell we will beat kilkenny. Relying on antrim losing then.

Terrible record under Egan.

And looks like Alan corcoran was right after all.

Yellowhelmet (Australia) - Posts: 140 - 21/05/2023 19:05:35    2480129

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Replying To Formertownie:  "Manager co chairman can say whatever you like . We are where we are now . I can tell u this much if i was a player I would be rallying everyone and by f..k we will be beating killkenny next week . This situation is caused by several factors but the only ones that can alter it now are the players you f..king stand up now and be counted or be remembered for the wrong reasons. Kick the living daylights out if each other if that what it takes pass the blame but when the jerseys go on next Sunday you represent us and ye better fight for everything we believe in. You Hurl with everything u got no holding back"
The core of the team have been in decline since 2019. Physically and mentally they seem shot.

Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 407 - 21/05/2023 19:09:59    2480131

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This has got to be the darkest day in living memory for Wexford hurling. From been a proud county we are now in the doldrums and will be seen as a team in serious need of urgent surgery.
How the he'll could we drift out of a game so much after been 16 points up at half time.
Was it complacency? Was it lack of respect for the opposition? Was it that we are simply not good enough? I don't know what the reasons are but it looks like after this debacle some of this team will retire and a rebuild will take place. It may well mean starting from the bottom and hopefully get back up the ladder because if we stay as we are then the future will not be bright.
I can't see Darragh Egan remaining on after the Kilkenny game. He really hasn't done anything for Wexford hurling. Let's hope our county board will take the right action and not sweep the problems under the carpet.

Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 456 - 21/05/2023 19:17:42    2480139

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Working backwards from Wexford GAA's stats on Twitter, Wexford created 39 scoring chances to Westmeath's 32. We scored 2-16 from play (18 shots) to their 4-07 (11 shots). We then scored four frees and two sidelines and missed one free altogether so there's another 7 shots from placed balls. That means we had 14 other scoring chances; I would estimate that we had four goal chances not scored, meaning we missed 10 opportunities at scoring points from play. Put that together and you have a max score of 6-26 from play; we scored 2-16 in the end.

Westmeath missed about three long-range frees and scored 11 frees so that's 14 altogether. That's means they have seven scoring opportunities unaccounted for; they scored all their goal chances so those seven opportunities had to be points missed. Put that together and the max they could have scored from play was 4-14; they scored 4-07 in the end.

All told, how do you end up losing a game where you created about 6-26 worth of chances from open play to Westmeath's 4-14? Wexford should have been winning that game by 10+ points

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 505 - 21/05/2023 19:18:39    2480140

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What on earth is going on in Wexford GAA?

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2614 - 21/05/2023 19:29:23    2480145

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In my eyes Antrim are ahead of Westmeath and will have targeted this match all year.

I know Galway bet Antrim today and Westmeath bet us today, but I still think Antrim will beat Westmeath by a few points.

It will come down to ourselves v Kilkenny and our confidence will be rock bottom after today, so I am not sure where the performance to beat Kilkenny is going to come out of.

The only thing is Kilkenny might rest players but wouldn't they only love to send Wexford down to the Joe McDonagh????

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 928 - 21/05/2023 19:33:27    2480147

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Replying To Timbertony:  "The core of the team have been in decline since 2019. Physically and mentally they seem shot."
Totally agree very hard to see that team get that 2019 desire back again. The work rate and momentum building was toppled by the covid and i think the players new what it was going to take to get back up there but they were older and not prepared to go the distance so i think its the end of an era for that team.If we get relagated to joe mc donagh you can be sure there will be alot of retirements.

Wexpurebred (Wexford) - Posts: 205 - 21/05/2023 19:41:49    2480149

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Replying To Past hurler:  "In my eyes Antrim are ahead of Westmeath and will have targeted this match all year.

I know Galway bet Antrim today and Westmeath bet us today, but I still think Antrim will beat Westmeath by a few points.

It will come down to ourselves v Kilkenny and our confidence will be rock bottom after today, so I am not sure where the performance to beat Kilkenny is going to come out of.

The only thing is Kilkenny might rest players but wouldn't they only love to send Wexford down to the Joe McDonagh????"
Don't think kk are fixated on us like we are on them know many kk fans who love to see wexford perform and be competitive.

Tiger1 (Wexford) - Posts: 342 - 21/05/2023 19:58:49    2480154

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Replying To Past hurler:  "In my eyes Antrim are ahead of Westmeath and will have targeted this match all year.

I know Galway bet Antrim today and Westmeath bet us today, but I still think Antrim will beat Westmeath by a few points.

It will come down to ourselves v Kilkenny and our confidence will be rock bottom after today, so I am not sure where the performance to beat Kilkenny is going to come out of.

The only thing is Kilkenny might rest players but wouldn't they only love to send Wexford down to the Joe McDonagh????"
I'd imagine that if Galway are ahead of Dublin and look like winning into second half that Cats may go down a gear. Assuming Wexford are up for it. On other hand, Kilkenny lads playing for places in final. Be interesting last day for reasons no one expected at start.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3531 - 21/05/2023 20:00:39    2480155

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Replying To Past hurler:  "In my eyes Antrim are ahead of Westmeath and will have targeted this match all year.

I know Galway bet Antrim today and Westmeath bet us today, but I still think Antrim will beat Westmeath by a few points.

It will come down to ourselves v Kilkenny and our confidence will be rock bottom after today, so I am not sure where the performance to beat Kilkenny is going to come out of.

The only thing is Kilkenny might rest players but wouldn't they only love to send Wexford down to the Joe McDonagh????"
Why would Kilkenny rest players if they are looking to get to the Leinster final? If they lose and Dublin win, it'll come down to score difference. I know if I was Lyng, I'd be going hell bent for a win.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1494 - 21/05/2023 20:00:55    2480156

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "Working backwards from Wexford GAA's stats on Twitter, Wexford created 39 scoring chances to Westmeath's 32. We scored 2-16 from play (18 shots) to their 4-07 (11 shots). We then scored four frees and two sidelines and missed one free altogether so there's another 7 shots from placed balls. That means we had 14 other scoring chances; I would estimate that we had four goal chances not scored, meaning we missed 10 opportunities at scoring points from play. Put that together and you have a max score of 6-26 from play; we scored 2-16 in the end.

Westmeath missed about three long-range frees and scored 11 frees so that's 14 altogether. That's means they have seven scoring opportunities unaccounted for; they scored all their goal chances so those seven opportunities had to be points missed. Put that together and the max they could have scored from play was 4-14; they scored 4-07 in the end.

All told, how do you end up losing a game where you created about 6-26 worth of chances from open play to Westmeath's 4-14? Wexford should have been winning that game by 10+ points"
Oh stop it lol, take your beating fair and square, no excuses.

preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 803 - 21/05/2023 20:03:24    2480158

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Replying To tonydoranfan:  "we lost to a poor kilkenny team, need anymore"
Iv seen and been to every training session and match and I would have to say they got super coaching and training,video analysis nutritional advise,tactics the whole lot!!!very well coached, at the start they looked terrible and showed great improvement to be honest for what they were handed to work with!!!I have a chap involved and he loved it!!!! Can't say I thought it was unprofessional just weren't good enough on the day, Kilkenny hammered then!!!we wouldn't have bet Galway either

theboys (Wexford) - Posts: 263 - 21/05/2023 20:07:02    2480161

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Replying To galwayford:  "What on earth is going on in Wexford GAA?"
Things going to get worse before they get better. Today was down to the players. Second half they were second to every ball just going through the motions. Think we accept mediocrity down here and always looking for excuses in defeat, or slapping ourselves on the back for getting so close. Top level sport is all about performance. In the last 2 years we played well in Kilkenny and ran Clare close. Cannot think of a good performance other than that.
In fairness to the county board they have pumped enormous sums of money into this team including sending them off to Portugal for a training week. Ok they hired Egan and in hindsight that's been a failure. Where we go from here god only knows. Even if we beat Kilkenny (extremely unlikely after today) the year has been a disaster. Honestly have no idea where we go from here

HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 550 - 21/05/2023 20:10:55    2480162

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