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Wexford Intercounty Hurling 2023

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Replying To Paull:  "Both wrong. It's Carlow. 7.30"
Should be a big crowd . Novel pairing will surely pack out Dr Cullen should a great occasion

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 11/05/2023 13:50:21    2477603

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Offaly are coming into the final with a few good results under their belt. They beat Galway and Dublin.

We lost to both of these teams but I wouldn't read a whole lot into that.

Offaly have had all their games at home this year while we have played all of ours away from home except the first win of the year vs Kilkenny

Offaly are pushing on from a good minor year last year but again - but u17 to U20 is a big step up - and we were the width of a post away from a Leinster win last year.

We beat the all Ireland champions in their own backyard last night

Our depth of panel impressed me a lot last night as did Rossiters decision making from the bench

Offaly 3-20 Galway 2-17 (6 point home win)
Offaly 1-19 Dublin 2-12 (4 point home win)

Wexford 2-17 Kilkenny 0-20 (3 point home win)
Galway 1-20 Wexford 1-17 (3 point away loss)
Dublin 1-20 Wexford 0-15 ( 8 point away loss)
Westmeath 3-12 Wexford 3-17 ( 5 point away win)
Kilkenny 2-13 Wexford 1-18 (2 point away win)

Also Kilkenny beat Galway by 6 points in Galway

If Kilkenny we're meeting Offaly in the final they would be hot favourites

Yellow (Wexford) - Posts: 589 - 11/05/2023 13:59:01    2477610

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Replying To JT22:  "Delighted with that result last night, after what has been a fairly negative few days for Wexford hurling it's great to get such a positive result. Let's hope they can get the job done next week.

I thought the game was pretty poor in the the first half but really came to life in the second half, particularly the last 15 minutes. Cian Byrne was excellent, in my opinion looked by far the best hurler on the pitch and looks a real exciting prospect for the future. I was also impressed with Carley, he hurled a huge amount of ball and distributed it very well. The Wexford forwards have loads of speed and can run riot with the right ball in to them.

Really looking forward to next Wednesday."
If anyone was to do a cold analysis of the game, the pretty poor would have lasted up to the 47th min and it was only the last 15mins that added anything to the game.
That is not trying to take anything away from what the players achieved, in particular coming back twice from two goals in that short period, showed bottle that we haven't seen in some time from Wexford teams. Indeed at times some of the play was great, exactly what we want to see backs looking up and placing where to where the next player wanted but for me its still a worry that still so much ball is being hit aimless into the forwards. Some great points but also again some very poor wides from close in. I was astonished by the fact that Kilkenny were doing it as well even though we were leaving them the opportunity for a short puck out. It would be interesting to see how many long ball puckouts were won by both teams.
Its a boost after last weekend and something to look forward to but lets not get carried away here and do the typical Wexford thing and think we are something special because we beat Kilkenny.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1956 - 11/05/2023 14:20:37    2477618

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Replying To Yellow:  "Offaly are coming into the final with a few good results under their belt. They beat Galway and Dublin.

We lost to both of these teams but I wouldn't read a whole lot into that.

Offaly have had all their games at home this year while we have played all of ours away from home except the first win of the year vs Kilkenny

Offaly are pushing on from a good minor year last year but again - but u17 to U20 is a big step up - and we were the width of a post away from a Leinster win last year.

We beat the all Ireland champions in their own backyard last night

Our depth of panel impressed me a lot last night as did Rossiters decision making from the bench

Offaly 3-20 Galway 2-17 (6 point home win)
Offaly 1-19 Dublin 2-12 (4 point home win)

Wexford 2-17 Kilkenny 0-20 (3 point home win)
Galway 1-20 Wexford 1-17 (3 point away loss)
Dublin 1-20 Wexford 0-15 ( 8 point away loss)
Westmeath 3-12 Wexford 3-17 ( 5 point away win)
Kilkenny 2-13 Wexford 1-18 (2 point away win)

Also Kilkenny beat Galway by 6 points in Galway

If Kilkenny we're meeting Offaly in the final they would be hot favourites"
I wouldn't worry too much about previous rounds at this age group.

Looking at how both of these teams play with such skill and passion this game will go down to the wire no doubt and either bench will be key as Offaly got a good return from their subs last night as did Wexford.

Can't wait for it now to be honest a real novel pairing for a Leinster final at this age group.

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 919 - 11/05/2023 15:02:46    2477639

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Replying To HurlingBuzz:  "Interview with Martin Storey was a bit over the top when discussing darragh egan's future but Alan corcoran is as passionate about hurling as anyone on here."
I agree but he let himself down badly in that interview, asking if there should be a management change between the Dublin and Westmeath games was a cheap shot in my opinion not just a bit over the top.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 11/05/2023 15:11:00    2477647

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Was hoping we would get home advantage as the last game between the 2 at this age group in 2019 was in Tullamore but to be fair wouldn't have blamed Offaly for feeling aggrieved over that scenario.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 11/05/2023 15:45:54    2477662

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Was hoping we would get home advantage as the last game between the 2 at this age group in 2019 was in Tullamore but to be fair wouldn't have blamed Offaly for feeling aggrieved over that scenario."
Think a final should be on neutral ground. I'd settle for the weather and result from that Tullamore meeting though!!!!!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15621 - 11/05/2023 16:19:41    2477681

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "I agree but he let himself down badly in that interview, asking if there should be a management change between the Dublin and Westmeath games was a cheap shot in my opinion not just a bit over the top."
Agree, what club is he involved in does anyone know?
Whether or not we agree with Darragh Egan and his game plan etc is neither here nor there, he deserves to see out the year and not be the victim of a witch hunt by a local media reporter.
Does anyone think Wexford could promote any u20s for the match v Kilkenny if they lose next Wednesday?

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1334 - 11/05/2023 16:52:48    2477695

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Agree, what club is he involved in does anyone know?
Whether or not we agree with Darragh Egan and his game plan etc is neither here nor there, he deserves to see out the year and not be the victim of a witch hunt by a local media reporter.
Does anyone think Wexford could promote any u20s for the match v Kilkenny if they lose next Wednesday?"
The only ones who have been with the senior panel this year or last as far as I know are Cian Byrne, Oisin Pepper, Corey Byrne Dunbar and Conor Foley. Cian Byrne is an excellent freetaker and probably a more aggressive hurler than Ross Banville. Foley and Byrne Dunbar have the most Senior experience this year. Oisin Pepper is apparently out of form. Ironically these 4 aren't the biggest 4 on the u20 team.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15621 - 11/05/2023 17:18:50    2477706

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Alan is a harriers man through and through.

Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 447 - 11/05/2023 17:35:40    2477707

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Agree, what club is he involved in does anyone know?
Whether or not we agree with Darragh Egan and his game plan etc is neither here nor there, he deserves to see out the year and not be the victim of a witch hunt by a local media reporter.
Does anyone think Wexford could promote any u20s for the match v Kilkenny if they lose next Wednesday?"
He's a harriers man.

I'd like to see seamie o hagan in the senior set up and have felt so for a while

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3556 - 11/05/2023 18:38:30    2477722

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Agree, what club is he involved in does anyone know?
Whether or not we agree with Darragh Egan and his game plan etc is neither here nor there, he deserves to see out the year and not be the victim of a witch hunt by a local media reporter.
Does anyone think Wexford could promote any u20s for the match v Kilkenny if they lose next Wednesday?"
I don't think any of them are quite ready tbh. Conor Foley starter versus Galway and Antrim and I'd say most people on here think he still needs time and experience at Senior level. Corey Byrne-Dunbar played a little bit in the league but then again, he's probably not physically ready to go up against the likes of Paddy Deegan just yet

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 473 - 11/05/2023 18:59:19    2477727

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Replying To Viking66:  "Likely not"
He did, and he was always likely to, he had a personal link to this year's group. Alan's son Calum was with the squad earlier in the year, a decent young hurler who has been in this yeargroup's development squads consistently. A lot of people in here lashing into Alan like he never was at a match in his life. I didn't hear Monday's show, but no-one should doubt his passion for Wexford hurling.
If Alan was over the top with his reaction to Saturday's match, he would have lots of company on this forum in that regard.

wendellgee (Wexford) - Posts: 29 - 11/05/2023 20:56:25    2477742

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Agree, what club is he involved in does anyone know?
Whether or not we agree with Darragh Egan and his game plan etc is neither here nor there, he deserves to see out the year and not be the victim of a witch hunt by a local media reporter.
Does anyone think Wexford could promote any u20s for the match v Kilkenny if they lose next Wednesday?"
Both midfielders look well able for it and also we know about Conor Foley.

Forwards prob a bit light yet.

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 919 - 11/05/2023 22:16:07    2477751

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Dundon has really impressed me. He plays in the backs where we have a few injuries too. He has the size to go straight into a senior set up. Hopefully we make an all Ireland and some of the under 20s are drafted into the panel after we finish 3rd in Leinster but thats the dream scenario!

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 12/05/2023 07:49:21    2477760

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Agree, what club is he involved in does anyone know?
Whether or not we agree with Darragh Egan and his game plan etc is neither here nor there, he deserves to see out the year and not be the victim of a witch hunt by a local media reporter.
Does anyone think Wexford could promote any u20s for the match v Kilkenny if they lose next Wednesday?"
Alan Corcoran is involved with Faythe Harriers. According to the club contacts thing on the Wexford GAA website, he's their PRO this year.

On the U20s thing, let's hope it doesn't work out that way, but Conor Foley is the obvious one to come back into contention for the seniors. Of the others, both Cian Byrne and Corey Byrne Dunbar have had runs with the seniors in the past, and I wouldn't be hugely suprised to see one of them making the matchday 26 for the seniors. But I think it'd be a big push to promote somebody straight in there who hasn't featured before.

And again, let's hope they don't have the option anyway, on account of U20s beating Offaly in the Leinster Final and therefore preparing for an All-Ireland Final.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2852 - 12/05/2023 08:56:36    2477764

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "Another thing that shouldn't go unmentioned is that while Kilkenny were missing Drennan, I thought most of their lads seemed to be further ahead of our lads in terms of S&C. Give our lads two years more to physically develop and there's a good chance they'll be even further ahead of this Kilkenny crop.

I know some people have been lamenting out under-age structures but most of that criticism seems to have been misplaced. Once you implement a new development programme at under-age level, it takes time both to bed in and to bear fruit. The U20s last year, this year, and possibly next year are very good crops IMO and show that we are developing quality young hurlers. Our main issue at Senior level is our 22yos, 23yos, and 24yos; the younger crops look promising though.

On a side note, TG4 don't get enough credit for their coverage and how much they do for the GAA."
I've being saying this for a long time, we probably had 3 calendar years lads born 1999-2001 where we didn't have alot of quality coming through and this is effecting us at senior at the moment, plenty of talent from u21 down in my view, objective has to be to get as many of these to push on at senior particularly last year and this years u20 teams.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 12/05/2023 10:56:55    2477800

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Replying To wendellgee:  "He did, and he was always likely to, he had a personal link to this year's group. Alan's son Calum was with the squad earlier in the year, a decent young hurler who has been in this yeargroup's development squads consistently. A lot of people in here lashing into Alan like he never was at a match in his life. I didn't hear Monday's show, but no-one should doubt his passion for Wexford hurling.
If Alan was over the top with his reaction to Saturday's match, he would have lots of company on this forum in that regard."
He would. But we are posting on whats a fairly inconsequential forum anonymously. He's in a position of influence and with that comes a responsibility to be fair and balanced.
Lads on here have been saying about the u20 gameplan. That has worked this year because we have big lads who can catch a ball in the half forward line and half back line AT THEIR LEVEL. At Senior we haven't had anyone except for Chin who could dominate like Shamey O Hagan did aerially a couple of nights ago. Not for years. Stephen Banville was OK at it and so was Podge Doran, maybe Jack Guiney and Andrew Shore also, but none stuck at intercounty very long. And whatever Alan or people on here think, that is not Egans fault, any more than it was Davys or Liams before him.
Storey himself has said about playing Mac and Jacko inside. Can anyone on this forum tell me the name of one top 9 team fullback that Mac has dominated in the last 5 years, either standing under a high dropping ball or running the legs off out to the sideline to win a ball played there? I can't think of one. Not one. Likewise Jacko, who for his height doesn't seem that good at jumping tbh. He would usually play in the half forward line and was in fairness effective against his marker in the Antrim game, but that was the only game in a long time I can remember him winning much contested ball. In the NFL in America one of the stats published about players looking to be drafted every year is how high they can jump. It would be interesting to see where do those 2 lads come if the whole squad had to do that test. Both aren't the fastest or most mobile either, but in fairness to both they are both more effective, even very effective sometimes, coming on in the 2nd half when the game is looser and their markers are more tired. They are both very skilful hurlers before anyone thinks I'm running them down.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15621 - 12/05/2023 11:02:55    2477804

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Replying To Afinestick:  "Dundon has really impressed me. He plays in the backs where we have a few injuries too. He has the size to go straight into a senior set up. Hopefully we make an all Ireland and some of the under 20s are drafted into the panel after we finish 3rd in Leinster but thats the dream scenario!"
I was out on the pitch after the u20 game and the kids were getting hurls signed. I told Shamey O Hagan that for me he was man of the match. None of the lads would have the build of Damien or Shane, never mind Lee or Matthew. Throwing them in too soon against bigger harder grown men might set them back rather than bring them on.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15621 - 12/05/2023 11:07:36    2477806

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Alan Corcoran is involved with Faythe Harriers. According to the club contacts thing on the Wexford GAA website, he's their PRO this year.

On the U20s thing, let's hope it doesn't work out that way, but Conor Foley is the obvious one to come back into contention for the seniors. Of the others, both Cian Byrne and Corey Byrne Dunbar have had runs with the seniors in the past, and I wouldn't be hugely suprised to see one of them making the matchday 26 for the seniors. But I think it'd be a big push to promote somebody straight in there who hasn't featured before.

And again, let's hope they don't have the option anyway, on account of U20s beating Offaly in the Leinster Final and therefore preparing for an All-Ireland Final."
Fingers crossed your last paragraph is the most prophetic post on this thread so far Pikeman!!!!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15621 - 12/05/2023 11:08:58    2477807

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