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The team announced is as good as it gets. Strange though that all the injured lads are fit to play just as the championship starts. Question is, are they all fully fit? I have my doubts. What might happen is some of the returning players may not survive the full 70+ minutes. If for example Chin or jippo or Rory or Dee have to come off it will leave gaping holes in our defence or attack or both. If we are still in the game with say 20 minutes left and we are forced to bring on subs I would not fancy our chances. Games are usually won in that time frame. On the other hand if all the lads are good to go and have enough training under their belts then maybe just maybe we could cause a surprise. As I said earlier are they match fit? That's the question. Reading the Galway forum some are saying that they'll beat wexford and they don't rate us at all. Come on lads, let's prove me and them wrong. Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 545 - 21/04/2023 13:27:08 2472178 Link
Replying To TerribleFootwork: "'The authorities have started the championship season too early and there just isn't that feel to it yet' Fair enough if you feel that way but don't be here during the club championship saying that's to condensed, you can't have your cake and eat it, if there's a fair and balanced schedule for everyone sacrifices have to be made as there's not enough weekends in the year for the current schedule." I'm going to reply to another beano's points here: "The format of the under-20 is laughable and like something from go games" Presume he's referring to the Tier 1 U20 hurling championship here in Leinster, where Wexford, Kilkenny, Dublin and Galway all play each other in round-robin, but then all four go through anyway. They're just playing off to decide which two go straight to semi-finals and which two have to play a quarter-final. A whole load of matches over a number of weeks to decide something that could be decided in two minutes if you just did an ordinary draw. I'd agree, to a large extent. But curious to hear if he thought the club championship formats here were laughable in 2020 and '21 too. A reminder: groups of three, with everybody going through anyway. They just played off to decide who'd go to a quarter-final, and who'd go to a preliminary quarter-final. Again, you could decide that in just a couple of minutes by doing an ordinary draw instead. Laughable? Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3010 - 21/04/2023 13:36:32 2472180 Link
Replying To beano: "I'm one of the advocates of the split season, just prefer it alternated year on year and it'd be perfect. Just thinking about the Fanning situation. Say Lawlor picks up a knock during the warm-up or in-game, a young lad will be thrust into championship action for the first time because an experienced lad threw his toys out of the pram. Not ideal." what do you mean alternated year on year? if its how the club championships are run in Wexford weather its hurling 1st, football 1st or the previous arrangement it takes 16 weekends to get the games played. TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 21/04/2023 13:45:06 2472184 Link
Replying To HurlingBuzz: "If the rumours are right… injury doubts over chin, Damien reck and ohanlon… Conor MAC dropped but still named in team and fanning leaves the panel. That's a pretty dire situation going into tomorrow. Really it just about sums up our year so far. Very worried now about tomorrow." yes that doesn't sound great but we'll get a better picture tomorrow where we're going weather its good or bad and regards these injury rumours. TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 21/04/2023 13:47:05 2472186 Link
No major surprises. Best bench we've had in a long time Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3885 - 21/04/2023 13:47:45 2472187 Link
Replying To Pikeman96: "Sort of. Championship squads have to be lodged with Croke Park on the Thursday morning, and new thing this year is that Croke Park are releasing them to the media at 10 a.m. Friday mornings. There's no obligation on anybody to actually have to announce it publicly, but obviously most counties do so because any big news is going to be in the media anyway. Anyway, I see the team announced on social media now. Lawlor in goal, and Cian Byrne at 16. Chin and Mac both named to start too. I still won't 100% dismiss what LarryO said because there's still a chance one or both won't start, but in fairness, Egan doesn't normally do "dummy" teams." He made late changes to the starting team in every League game Pikeman!!!!!! Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16854 - 21/04/2023 13:49:00 2472189 Link
Replying To LarryOBrother: "I got it from a very reliable source who generally doesn't lead me astray. Charlie Mac in for Conor Mac. Might be no harm to him give him a pep in his step coming on. Damo Reck also under pressure but will start. We're up against it but I think they will play very well tomorrow" Agreed it might be a good thing. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16854 - 21/04/2023 13:50:06 2472190 Link
Replying To Pikeman96: "I'm going to reply to another beano's points here: "The format of the under-20 is laughable and like something from go games" Presume he's referring to the Tier 1 U20 hurling championship here in Leinster, where Wexford, Kilkenny, Dublin and Galway all play each other in round-robin, but then all four go through anyway. They're just playing off to decide which two go straight to semi-finals and which two have to play a quarter-final. A whole load of matches over a number of weeks to decide something that could be decided in two minutes if you just did an ordinary draw. I'd agree, to a large extent. But curious to hear if he thought the club championship formats here were laughable in 2020 and '21 too. A reminder: groups of three, with everybody going through anyway. They just played off to decide who'd go to a quarter-final, and who'd go to a preliminary quarter-final. Again, you could decide that in just a couple of minutes by doing an ordinary draw instead. Laughable?" Would this format mean wexford will be tier 2 in 2025 As offaly laois conrested league final throw Galway in one of kilkenny and Dublin . Or will they realise they ve relegated teams without striking a ball 3 years later .. assuming that's the format for tier 1 and 2 Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 394 - 21/04/2023 13:51:04 2472191 Link
Replying To LarryOBrother: "I got it from a very reliable source who generally doesn't lead me astray. Charlie Mac in for Conor Mac. Might be no harm to him give him a pep in his step coming on. Damo Reck also under pressure but will start. We're up against it but I think they will play very well tomorrow" I think they will play well too. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16854 - 21/04/2023 13:59:00 2472196 Link
Replying To hurlorhurley: "Under 19 development panel complete farce of a concept, massaging the egos of players is all its doing. You're not good enough to be on the panel but you can be on a pretend panel (You're just the second best priest)" It is what it says. The clue is in the name. It's a stepping stone to try and improve the lads who will hopefully be on the u20 team the following year. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16854 - 21/04/2023 14:00:48 2472198 Link
Replying To ExiledInWex: "Says an also non-Wexford man...." You don't hide lad. We don't always agree, and times you are a little negative, but you post good well reasoned stuff. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16854 - 21/04/2023 14:03:15 2472200 Link
Replying To Pikeman96: "Yeah. Let's not bother starting to prepare next year's U20 team when we have the chance. Let's just leave all these lads out in the lurch, and only bring them together for the first time next January or so. Roll eyes emoji." Some lads can't see further than the tip of their nose! Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16854 - 21/04/2023 14:04:00 2472201 Link
Replying To Magpie2: "The team announced is as good as it gets. Strange though that all the injured lads are fit to play just as the championship starts. Question is, are they all fully fit? I have my doubts. What might happen is some of the returning players may not survive the full 70+ minutes. If for example Chin or jippo or Rory or Dee have to come off it will leave gaping holes in our defence or attack or both. If we are still in the game with say 20 minutes left and we are forced to bring on subs I would not fancy our chances. Games are usually won in that time frame. On the other hand if all the lads are good to go and have enough training under their belts then maybe just maybe we could cause a surprise. As I said earlier are they match fit? That's the question. Reading the Galway forum some are saying that they'll beat wexford and they don't rate us at all. Come on lads, let's prove me and them wrong." Just a left field thought- how actually injured were all those lads during the League? Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16854 - 21/04/2023 14:05:42 2472203 Link
Replying To Formertownie: "Would this format mean wexford will be tier 2 in 2025 As offaly laois conrested league final throw Galway in one of kilkenny and Dublin . Or will they realise they ve relegated teams without striking a ball 3 years later .. assuming that's the format for tier 1 and 2" This is the 1st year u20 has been run on round robin so there probably learning as they go along, the way teams were grouped this year might even change for next year. TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 21/04/2023 14:08:51 2472208 Link
Replying To Viking66: "You don't hide lad. We don't always agree, and times you are a little negative, but you post good well reasoned stuff." Exactly debate is healthy but as someone said here previously there has been a good bit of destructive rather than constructive criticism and getting petty digs in here since the start of the year (Exiled your not a gulity party btw) TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 21/04/2023 14:12:37 2472211 Link
Replying To Pikeman96: "I'm going to reply to another beano's points here: "The format of the under-20 is laughable and like something from go games" Presume he's referring to the Tier 1 U20 hurling championship here in Leinster, where Wexford, Kilkenny, Dublin and Galway all play each other in round-robin, but then all four go through anyway. They're just playing off to decide which two go straight to semi-finals and which two have to play a quarter-final. A whole load of matches over a number of weeks to decide something that could be decided in two minutes if you just did an ordinary draw. I'd agree, to a large extent. But curious to hear if he thought the club championship formats here were laughable in 2020 and '21 too. A reminder: groups of three, with everybody going through anyway. They just played off to decide who'd go to a quarter-final, and who'd go to a preliminary quarter-final. Again, you could decide that in just a couple of minutes by doing an ordinary draw instead. Laughable?" Are you seriously comparing the current under-20 format to a stop-gap measure brought in during Covid? Because that is clutching at straws, and we were all delighted to get any games at all during that period. And we'll be the first county to complain if for example we beat Galway tonight (meaning they'd have no win from three) but they go on to advance further than us in the championship. Just like we were apparently the only county undone by another ridiculous rule last year. Anyway, it's beside the main debate- I do hope Galway bring their own home league form into tomorrow, and our bench make an impact down the stretch. But it'll be a tall ask on all known form. beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1504 - 21/04/2023 14:25:05 2472215 Link
Replying To beano: "Are you seriously comparing the current under-20 format to a stop-gap measure brought in during Covid? Because that is clutching at straws, and we were all delighted to get any games at all during that period. And we'll be the first county to complain if for example we beat Galway tonight (meaning they'd have no win from three) but they go on to advance further than us in the championship. Just like we were apparently the only county undone by another ridiculous rule last year. Anyway, it's beside the main debate- I do hope Galway bring their own home league form into tomorrow, and our bench make an impact down the stretch. But it'll be a tall ask on all known form." If we beat Galway tonight and Galway win Leinster I'll hold no grievance anyway, competition structure was flagged in advance, the rule last year was a different debate altogether but to imply that people here claimed we were the only team effected is completely disingenuous and incorrect, petty stuff to be honest. TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 21/04/2023 14:43:35 2472224 Link
Replying To beano: "Are you seriously comparing the current under-20 format to a stop-gap measure brought in during Covid? Because that is clutching at straws, and we were all delighted to get any games at all during that period. And we'll be the first county to complain if for example we beat Galway tonight (meaning they'd have no win from three) but they go on to advance further than us in the championship. Just like we were apparently the only county undone by another ridiculous rule last year. Anyway, it's beside the main debate- I do hope Galway bring their own home league form into tomorrow, and our bench make an impact down the stretch. But it'll be a tall ask on all known form." We werent the only county. Limerick lost their best player. Galway did too. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16854 - 21/04/2023 14:57:42 2472230 Link
Replying To ChinCanHurl: "I wasn't making out that you were lying sorry if it came across that way. I hope it isn't as you say. Some people say Mac needs a wake up call but we don't have the luxury of many players that can change a game in a second like he can. The less said about Chin potentially being out the better as that would be curtains for our chances." If McDonald is dropped, the first thing he should be doing is looking in the mirror and seeing what he can do better. His form and general attitude/workrate hasn't been up to scratch for quite some time. No point blaming coaches or anything else. Cut out the stupid fouling and go back to basics. Contest the ball with everything he has in the air, make himself available for passes and on odd occasion try to get himself isolated one on one inside with the full back. In saying all that he gave Daithi Burke plenty of it last year in Wexford park when he did focus on the basics. If Chin is out, we will struggle to win a ball in our forward line I fear. If he gets injured, I can't see us making the top 3 in Leinster. Team looks decent...on paper, Galway team doesn't look all that either at a glance. I'd prefer Dunbar inside but expect he will come out to the middle with DOK as sweeper. So many lads have little or no game time this year but it's an experienced team. Think our best chance of winning is if ROC,who I think will be at 11, brings his usual league form to championship and shoots the lights out. Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 444 - 21/04/2023 15:23:38 2472240 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Just a left field thought- how actually injured were all those lads during the League?" That thought occurred to me as well viking. Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 545 - 21/04/2023 15:29:24 2472245 Link