(Oldest Posts First) - Go To The Latest Post
Massively disagree on the penalty incident. He was grabbed from behind, and his right arm pulled as he was trying to release and kick the ball. The pull on him caused him not to connect properly. You can't tackle like that, either up the field, or in the box. That was a clear penalty to me, and to many other commentators and pundits who say it should have been given. If similar was given against us, I'd have had no complaints. Tackler didn't play the ball, but the man, causing him to miskick. Penalty all day long
Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2360 - 10/05/2022 10:58:12 2416159 Link 0 |
Does it really matter who dropped it? It was dropped and ended up in the back of the net. End of . You will be saying next that Donegal shouldn't kick it in like that because it's old style! They kicked it in like that because 2 Cavan backs and the Keeper made a mess 2 mins earlier for the first goal. Breffni1969 (Cavan) - Posts: 510 - 10/05/2022 11:17:21 2416177 Link 0 |
I still think if he held the ball the penalty would have been given… Mc Kiernans efforts at stopping or tackling Donegal players in the first half was pathetic… he kicked a couple of good scores the 2nd half but he is no good to the team when we are out of possession…..
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1820 - 10/05/2022 12:58:53 2416227 Link 0 |
Possibly, but he shouldn't have to. He was trying to score. If we're only to give penalties to those who hold the ball and go to ground, then that's wrong. We can give frees for this. Sure we even see when a free can be given when someone attempts to kick a ball and if they're fouled, a free is from where the ball lands. No matter what way you spin it, McKiernan was fouled. He shouldn't have to be too honest here. He was fouled, prevented him scoring, should be a penalty, as literally every quarter is saying.
Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2360 - 10/05/2022 14:03:05 2416252 Link 0 |
I still think if he held the ball the penalty would have been given… Mc Kiernans efforts at stopping or tackling Donegal players in the first half was pathetic… he kicked a couple of good scores the 2nd half but he is no good to the team when we are out of possession….. ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 544 - 10/05/2022 12:58:53 It's not Rugby he has to try and kick it to score although the tackle would be more suitable to Rugby. RHF (Cavan) - Posts: 839 - 10/05/2022 14:16:06 2416260 Link 0 |
watched it again on u tube last night was too far away from the incident in clones to see but when you see how little contact was needed to award a free if the referee is consistent then he has to give a penalty as there was definite contact from behind. I dont agree with this or most of the frees given they are destroying the game as a spectacle and we will soon be at a zero contact game. breffnibluewhite (Cavan) - Posts: 434 - 10/05/2022 14:17:31 2416262 Link 0 |
Have to look at it again…. my first reaction was that he lost the ball… he or other players didn't react as if it was a blatant foul… as I say I will have to see it again
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1820 - 10/05/2022 14:34:08 2416268 Link 0 |
Technically, by the rule book, it is more or less a non contact game. The only contact you are allowed is shoulder to shoulder. The game of Gaelic Football is a farce when you really think about it, because the tackle rule is not enforced, nor is it well defined. You see this craic of lads standing in front of players when they're getting up of the ground and leaving a hand in, is that a foul? Who knows? A hand on the back, is that a foul, or does it need to affect the player's momentum? Again, who really knows. Far too much depends on referee interpretation. We were denied what could have been a match defining penalty at the weekend. Ned_Stormcrow (Cavan) - Posts: 1071 - 10/05/2022 14:55:36 2416277 Link 0 |
It has become a non contact sport. Hand over the shoulder is nearly always given as a free as the opposing play always goes to ground once the hand comes over. Your suppose to tackle the ball with open hand. How the ref can see or implement this on his blind side is anyone guess! For infringements in the penalty area the Umpire should call the refs attention more often. As it's impossible for the ref to be totally up with the play all the time. Breffni1969 (Cavan) - Posts: 510 - 10/05/2022 15:34:20 2416305 Link 0 |
Agree with you totally about getting the umpire's involved… For all inter county games I have always maintained that umpires should be appointed from the referees pool…. If they are prepared to bring Lane all the way up from Cork ( pure madness in my view ) he should be bringing 4 local referees with him instead of buddies who might have spent half the night in the local pub… Umpires have the best view as they are mainly stationary and have a full view down the pitch… they should certainly have more of a say on incidents like Sundays penalty claim as Lane was miles behind the play and decided on the safe option at that time of the game…. If the same thing happened in the last minute with us 6 points behind he would come running in with his arm outstretched in the safe knowledge it would make no difference… Give the umpires more power
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1820 - 10/05/2022 19:22:17 2416376 Link 0 |
Agreed, more use needs to be made of the umpires. Or we should look at having a referee in each half. The game is crying out for all this to be addressed.
Ned_Stormcrow (Cavan) - Posts: 1071 - 10/05/2022 21:59:05 2416394 Link 0 |
Refs each half I think would be good, or use the linesmen as assistant refs like in soccer. At the moment they can only say something if consulted by the ref. Umpires a waste of time, unless we stipulate that in inter county games that they're at least club level refs or such so we know they have a standard. We can't be using umpires like that if they're 4 lads from the local area the ref brings on the day...
Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2360 - 11/05/2022 09:29:24 2416404 Link 0 |
Can anyone explain why a referee ( and umpires ) had to travel the whole way from Cork to Clones to referee an Ulster Championship match…. I agree these games should have a ref from outside the province but surely a referee from Connaught or Leinster would make a lot more sense…. but sadly when in comes to the GAA sense is far from common…! ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1820 - 11/05/2022 10:01:10 2416411 Link 0 |
Kinda madness really having to bring a ref from Cork the whole way up. Think David Gough is reffin the Derry Monaghan Semi this weekend. He will need eyes in the back of his head for that one!! Breffni1969 (Cavan) - Posts: 510 - 11/05/2022 10:45:57 2416433 Link 0 |
Maybe the issues we had with an Ulster ref last time Cavan and Donegal played? There is only a select panel of refs available. Wouldn't have chosen Lane personally, but it's where we are
Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2360 - 11/05/2022 10:56:19 2416437 Link 0 |
Absolutely. There needs to be standards and accountability. It's quite astonishing that this issue isn't highlighted more.
Ned_Stormcrow (Cavan) - Posts: 1071 - 11/05/2022 11:01:17 2416438 Link 0 |
Well I am not sure why the whole way from Cork but the last time we played a senior Ulster final a Ref from Derry almost cost us the match. A few weeks back a ref from Donegal had a huge hand in us not winning an Ulster u20 championship, a ref that lives a few miles from the border of the team that won. I think its a good idea bringing in refs from outside the province although it seems excessive brining one from Cork alright. fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1483 - 11/05/2022 11:30:10 2416448 Link 0 |
Your right…. I hate when Ulster referees are in charge of our games
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1820 - 11/05/2022 12:59:17 2416481 Link 0 |
There's only around 16 Inter County referees. The list changes each year, some are dropped and new refs brought in. FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2752 - 11/05/2022 13:45:43 2416504 Link 0 |
It's all an expenses junket for the likes of Lane and his umpires…. They most likely traveled up on Saturday and got a stay over…. I know it's not an easy job but at least make the appointments logical…
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1820 - 11/05/2022 16:00:37 2416546 Link 0 |