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I wish the team and management the best of luck tonight - and for the year ahead, i hope the team gets a good hop of the ball now and then.

carlowman (Carlow) - Posts: 1688 - 13/01/2022 15:37:14    2394774

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One glaring problem at the moment for Carlow football (and it's highlighted in this year's panel) is that there is no avenue for lads to play senior championship, unless there club anagens to get to senior status.

I counted 14 lads on tonight's panel who have not played SFC in the last 3 years, most of which have never played senior football in Carlow.

For an intercounty side that's a massive problem. But even in general, I do believe that every player at every club should have access to play senior football in Carlow, especially if they are good enough.

The direction I would go is sectioning the county into three regions as follow (rough guess)s:

North West: OL, Ballinabranna, Blues, Leighlinbridge, Asca & Eire Og
North East: St Pats, Kilbride, Cocks, Clonmore, Grange, Pal & Rathvilly
South: MLR, Fenagh, Myshall, KC, Ballon, St Mullins & Bagenalstown

5 club teams and the 3 regional sides play in the SFC. The regional teams have access to any player who is not affiliated with a senior club in their region. On the basis of the 2021 Championship, the below is how it would look.

Group A: EO, Pal, NW & South
Group B: Rathvilly, Bagenaltown, MLR & NE

Same structure as now, one club team goes down and the intermediate champs go up. Regional teams stay senior.

Run off the Junior and Intermediate championship early, to accommodate availability in the SFC.

There are real advantages to doing something like this. It would increase the standard of the SFC, players at every club have a chance to play senior football ( this especially important for lads at small rural clubs) and can be used as a stepping stone for lads who have aspirations of playing inter county football.

This is just a rough idea, but I'd like to see something to this effect happen eventually.

TaosHum (Carlow) - Posts: 173 - 13/01/2022 17:18:24    2394802

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Looking ominous at the break
Down by 9
Anyone know if the following players are involved any more
Brendan Murphy
Sean Murphy
Sean Gannon
Chris Crowley
Ciaran Moran
Diarmud Walsh
Lee Walker
Jordan Morrissey
John Murphy
? Ruth
Chris Blake
Jamie Clarke
Ken Power
Danny Thompson

Blackbog (Carlow) - Posts: 611 - 13/01/2022 20:23:04    2394821

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Also Danny Moran and Graham not Ken Power

Blackbog (Carlow) - Posts: 611 - 13/01/2022 20:26:27    2394823

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Sean Murphy & Conor Lawlor gone in with the hurlers this year. That good team we had between 2017-2019 has fallen apart and I'm afraid it's going to be a struggle from here on in. Id say from that team that beat Kildare in the championship in 2018 there are 8/9 players gone if not more. No disrespect to the lads in there who will undoubtedly do their best but we just dont have the quality coming through to replace Murphys, Lawlor Broderick, Redmonds etc. I can see it going back to the hammerings we used to get pre O Brien & Poacher. We dared to dream for a couple of years but normally service has resumed unfortunately

carlo (Carlow) - Posts: 137 - 14/01/2022 10:54:27    2394849

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Replying To Blackbog:  "Laois and Carlow as one.
I would prefer to languish in low level mediocrity than loose our identity to that lot.
They already have West Carlow Town ( graiguecullen)."
That day is drawing nigh!

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1151 - 14/01/2022 13:16:46    2394880

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Have a bit of faith.After all kildare are a division 1 team.We won't be playing that quality of team in our division.While we are playing London they will be playing Kerry.We have to give this transition a chance,change is inevitable and we will have to see how it goes before we can make judgment.

Wishewashy (Carlow) - Posts: 6 - 14/01/2022 14:05:35    2394892

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After reading where the Carlow / Westmeath game is called off because Carlow can't field a team, that is to say the least sad, really sad. One game into the new year and they can't find 15 players in the county to fulfil the fixture, even allowing for the fact that it may be covid or injuries, or both, surely the determination should be in every club in the county to push on at every available opportunity it is all about trying out new players etc.

I hope its not because Carlow lost by 0-18 to Kildare, it's worth remembering Kilare are a div.1 side, they have an all star management set up, awash with money their C B posted where they're finances is are in the black for the first time in years, Kildare are potential leinster champions, so it was a game Carlow was not expected to win, and so be it.

If Carlow genuinely and honestly can't field a team to fulfil the fixture before a ball is kicked in this new year, we are in a bad place.

I wish all players and management good health and to stay injury free.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2589 - 15/01/2022 10:55:03    2394990

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I don't think the current management will see out the year. The panel is very green and so many didn't commit for this year, looks like it's back to the bad old days

Barrowsider (Carlow) - Posts: 1354 - 15/01/2022 12:28:00    2395011

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Carlow players who left last years panel:

1. Robbie Molloy - Rathvilly
2. Conor Lawlor - Palatine
3. Shane Redmond - Tinryland
4. Mark Furey - Eire Og
5. Jordan Lowry - Eire Og
6. John Murphy - Grange
7. Richie Mahon - Eire Og
8. Jason Kane - Palatine
9. Shane O'Neill - Palatine
10. Lee Walker - O'Hanrahans
11. Tomas Kenny - Palatine
12. James McGrath - O'Hanrahans
13. Paul Broderick - Tinryland
14. Chris Blake - Eire Og
15. Cormac Mullins - Eire Og

16. Danny Thompson - O'Hanrahans
17. Stephen Reilly - Palatine
18. Jonah Dunne - Tinryland

Karlo (Carlow) - Posts: 2 - 15/01/2022 13:32:04    2395024

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Replying To Karlo:  "Carlow players who left last years panel:

1. Robbie Molloy - Rathvilly
2. Conor Lawlor - Palatine
3. Shane Redmond - Tinryland
4. Mark Furey - Eire Og
5. Jordan Lowry - Eire Og
6. John Murphy - Grange
7. Richie Mahon - Eire Og
8. Jason Kane - Palatine
9. Shane O'Neill - Palatine
10. Lee Walker - O'Hanrahans
11. Tomas Kenny - Palatine
12. James McGrath - O'Hanrahans
13. Paul Broderick - Tinryland
14. Chris Blake - Eire Og
15. Cormac Mullins - Eire Og

16. Danny Thompson - O'Hanrahans
17. Stephen Reilly - Palatine
18. Jonah Dunne - Tinryland"
Club players who have not committed:

1. Robert Sansom - Ballinabranna
2. Benny Kavanagh - Eire Og
3. Mark Fitzgerald - Eire Og
4. Barry John Molloy - Rathvilly
5. Kelvin Chatten - Eire Og
6. Conor Byrne - Tinryland
7. Paul McElligott - Eire Og
8. Brendan Murphy - Rathvilly
9. Sean Murphy - Fenagh
10. Eric Molloy - Rathvilly
11. Darragh Murphy - Rathvilly
12. Diarmuid Walshe - Tinryland
13. Niall Quinlan - Eire Og
14. Brian Murphy - Rathvilly
15. Jake Elliot - Rathvilly

16. Reece Denieffe - Eire Og
17. Robbie Kane - Bagenalstown
18. Darren Lunney - Ballinabranna

Karlo (Carlow) - Posts: 2 - 15/01/2022 13:53:12    2395026

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Replying To supersub15:  "After reading where the Carlow / Westmeath game is called off because Carlow can't field a team, that is to say the least sad, really sad. One game into the new year and they can't find 15 players in the county to fulfil the fixture, even allowing for the fact that it may be covid or injuries, or both, surely the determination should be in every club in the county to push on at every available opportunity it is all about trying out new players etc.

I hope its not because Carlow lost by 0-18 to Kildare, it's worth remembering Kilare are a div.1 side, they have an all star management set up, awash with money their C B posted where they're finances is are in the black for the first time in years, Kildare are potential leinster champions, so it was a game Carlow was not expected to win, and so be it.

If Carlow genuinely and honestly can't field a team to fulfil the fixture before a ball is kicked in this new year, we are in a bad place.

I wish all players and management good health and to stay injury free."
Where did you read this Super sub
Find it hard to believe unless it's covid related .
I got the impression it was a large if inexperienced squad

Blackbog (Carlow) - Posts: 611 - 15/01/2022 15:20:13    2395041

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Written by a true Palatine man obviously. You forgot to mention about 7 players from Pal who haven't committed.

Players who have committed:

Rathvilly:
Josh Moore
Padraig Deering
Dara Curran
Conor Doyle
Brian Smith

Eire Og:
Sean Gannon
Eoghan Ruth
Jordan Morrissey
Ross Dunphy
Murtough Ware
Colm Hulton
Darragh O Brien
Shane Buggy
Diarmuid Ruth


Bagenalstown Gaels:
Shane Clarke
Jamie Clarke
Ciaran Cunningham
Kuba Budzisc.

Fenagh;
Padraig Hynes
Cormac Lomax
Keegan Bradley

Kildavin:
Liam Roberts
Owen Roberts
Niall Hickey

And many more....some who were on Sigerson cup duty this week.

Great to see so many young players coming through and looking forward to them developing.
By the way Palatine have one player committed...Conor Crowley, super forward.

novalis (Carlow) - Posts: 300 - 15/01/2022 15:40:21    2395048

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Replying To Blackbog:  "Where did you read this Super sub
Find it hard to believe unless it's covid related .
I got the impression it was a large if inexperienced squad"
I read it this morning on the HS home page, one of two reports, one clearly read that the Carlow / Westmeath was cancelled because Carlow claimed they couldn't field a team, it went on to say the game was a dead rubber anyway, either way it should have been played. My view is if they couldn't field a team then it's a problem, if they could field a team and didn't then that's a problem too.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2589 - 15/01/2022 17:49:29    2395079

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Replying To supersub15:  "I read it this morning on the HS home page, one of two reports, one clearly read that the Carlow / Westmeath was cancelled because Carlow claimed they couldn't field a team, it went on to say the game was a dead rubber anyway, either way it should have been played. My view is if they couldn't field a team then it's a problem, if they could field a team and didn't then that's a problem too."
I would not panic as yet.
Like someone else said on here, we are at the begining of a rebuilding process
We had 2 very influential men leading the team and a cohort of talented footballers many of whom could have with a bit of luck won minor and u21 Leinster title medals .
We don't have that now and a small county like ours do well to produce teams of any quality every 10- 15 years . I mean teams that can really compete regularly
You learn to be patient and enjoy the good moments . 50 years following Carlow and the great day tho not many are so memorable
We can just keep the faith and support what we got.
As supersub as a consistant and intelligent contributor on here i know too are just reflecting the reality if a small county who work hard to be competitive in all codes of Gaa

Blackbog (Carlow) - Posts: 611 - 15/01/2022 18:53:56    2395089

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Looked like a solid win today in kehoe cup
Conor Lawlor must be the first man from North Carlow to be on County team for a long time
Bog loss to footballers s is Sean Murrphy .
Interesting to note that they were 17 -15 doen at 2nd water break. But scored 1-10 to 0-02 in last quarter.

Blackbog (Carlow) - Posts: 611 - 16/01/2022 19:05:22    2395195

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Ya early days, but against an improving Kildare a good win. Strong enough team lined out - seems a good mix of experience and young guys on the panel.

Bainisteoir (National) - Posts: 495 - 16/01/2022 20:48:55    2395212

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Nice win yesterday for hurlers. In truth, it's a game they should be winning as Kildare were missing the Naas contingent.

Solid looking panel. Horse and Sean Murphy nice additions, while Diarmuid Byrne being back is a boost. Quietly going about their business.

2A is tough this season, Out of the 6 teams, 5 will fancy their chances of getting to a final. Having Kerry and Westmeath at home is good, but going up to Down again will be tough.

TaosHum (Carlow) - Posts: 173 - 17/01/2022 08:09:34    2395225

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Good finish to win well yesterday. A very positive start. League will be tough but good to see the return of some players who had featured strongly on football teams of very recent years. Hurlers quietly getting the best lads again.

carlowman (Carlow) - Posts: 1688 - 17/01/2022 10:42:55    2395241

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Replying To carlowman:  "Good finish to win well yesterday. A very positive start. League will be tough but good to see the return of some players who had featured strongly on football teams of very recent years. Hurlers quietly getting the best lads again."
When you think about it, the hurling should be a more attractive prospect for dual players undecided what to commit to. Just off the top of my head the advantages are:

- Play at a higher standard than the footballers
- Promotion away from playing highest standard of hurling
- Settled and well respected coaching staff
- Higher chance of winning some silverware
- Solid core group of players established on the panel

Horse and Murphy may not be automatic starters for the hurlers as they would for the footballers, but they add some much needed depth and will have a part to play in every game.

TaosHum (Carlow) - Posts: 173 - 18/01/2022 10:24:55    2395398

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