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Replying To TheRock2121: "Sorry to put a downer on things here but can't see us getting near then unfortunately..if we had Ryan Mc Hugh, Padar Mogan and Micheal Langan we would have a chance. The O Donnell lads also. Our bench isn't strong. Their bench is. That's the winning of the game. Hope I'm wrong. We would need to win all our kick outs and do a job on their ones to have any chance. Not that I think are greats by any stretch of the imagination, I just think we have too many losses to cope with." Yeah you could be right. With the hectic schedule of games, plus the warm weather, a good bench is vital to finish games off strong. I see Tyrone threw on the likes of McGeary & Burns the other day. But look at it another way, we have plenty of youth and legs, albeit lacking experience. Maybe a bit of youthful exuberance & energy could be the winning of the game? Buck it, I've spent the whole of 2023 feeling pessimistic. Gonna allow myself a wee bit of cautious optimism, even if it's misplaced. Donegal by a point! 1-13 - 0-15 Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9730 - 20/06/2023 18:24:27 2487935 Link
Replying To Lockjaw: "Yeah I know what you mean. I think maybe start McMenamin on Canavan, and when he is inevitably booked, move him on to someone else!! Isn't it great though that we've somehow found ourselves in the position we're in? A home draw against Tyrone for a chance to reach the quarter finals. Now Tyrone will no way be easy, but I think we definitely have a good chance. Hopefully we can put two good back-to-back performances together. Not the easiest thing to do with the short turnaround and in this very warm weather though." All through this year people have written of Donegal no matter who they were playing. Donegal don't turn into a bad team over night so I was surprised at some of the flack. They're still up there with the best in Ulster and I'm now glad Murphy has retired because he'd be a dangerous player if played in the right position. Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2285 - 20/06/2023 18:36:18 2487945 Link
Replying To TheRock2121: "Sorry to put a downer on things here but can't see us getting near then unfortunately..if we had Ryan Mc Hugh, Padar Mogan and Micheal Langan we would have a chance. The O Donnell lads also. Our bench isn't strong. Their bench is. That's the winning of the game. Hope I'm wrong. We would need to win all our kick outs and do a job on their ones to have any chance. Not that I think are greats by any stretch of the imagination, I just think we have too many losses to cope with." There is no point in mentioning injured players or players that dont want to play for their county. Tyrone are in no great shape themselves and with home advantage and a bit more improvement we have every chance of getting to a quarterfinal. Scenicparish (Donegal) - Posts: 462 - 20/06/2023 21:42:48 2487970 Link
Replying To Lockjaw: "Yeah you could be right. With the hectic schedule of games, plus the warm weather, a good bench is vital to finish games off strong. I see Tyrone threw on the likes of McGeary & Burns the other day. But look at it another way, we have plenty of youth and legs, albeit lacking experience. Maybe a bit of youthful exuberance & energy could be the winning of the game? Buck it, I've spent the whole of 2023 feeling pessimistic. Gonna allow myself a wee bit of cautious optimism, even if it's misplaced. Donegal by a point! 1-13 - 0-15" Here's hoping ! TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 1208 - 21/06/2023 02:08:37 2487993 Link
This year is turning into a positive on the field no matter what happens now. We have shown we can compete with top teams even without some big names. I have to congratulate the new management for putting players in rather than let them serve their 4 year apprenticeship like previous management set ups. It shows the talent we have. Takes me back to Enniskillen 2021 v tyrone when we left likes of c o donnell gallen on bench because of loyalty to other players. What might have been. There was certain posters and ill not mention no names rory, maintained we had no man markers in the county and blamed club set ups for it. Look at mccole, mccolgan, John Ross to name a few who all did great jobs on likes of mcguigan, mcmanus, mccarron , o hanlon, sexton . These are all top div 1 standard forwards. 3/4 of these boys defenders in their first year. It shows we never looked through the county previous to this or was it down to loyalty. This mgt set up is definitely a massive step up ( in very short timeframe) and deserve a 2 year contract after this. All I see is individuals improving week on week. 1 example daire o baoill now playing out of his skin. Mccole now one of best in business at full back. Onwards and upwards and delighted to say I was right in insisting there is some talent in this county despite others maintaining there wasn't to defend other mgt set ups. marty234 (Donegal) - Posts: 158 - 21/06/2023 07:31:04 2488000 Link
Replying To Scenicparish: "There is no point in mentioning injured players or players that dont want to play for their county. Tyrone are in no great shape themselves and with home advantage and a bit more improvement we have every chance of getting to a quarterfinal." Yeah, players that have opted out don't really deserve the attention. I was in MacCumhaill Park for the Derry game and heard a man saying "The 3 O'Donnells are a massive miss, they'd walk on any team in the country". There's a level of delusion about those lads in particular. Good players but Niall has never done it for the county, Shane might yet be a good player for us, but the 3rd O'Donnell is a strong club player and that's it. I wanted to chat with this man and ask him how he came to that conclusion but I didn't know him. SignTheContract (Donegal) - Posts: 197 - 21/06/2023 08:15:24 2488007 Link
Replying To marty234: "This year is turning into a positive on the field no matter what happens now. We have shown we can compete with top teams even without some big names. I have to congratulate the new management for putting players in rather than let them serve their 4 year apprenticeship like previous management set ups. It shows the talent we have. Takes me back to Enniskillen 2021 v tyrone when we left likes of c o donnell gallen on bench because of loyalty to other players. What might have been. There was certain posters and ill not mention no names rory, maintained we had no man markers in the county and blamed club set ups for it. Look at mccole, mccolgan, John Ross to name a few who all did great jobs on likes of mcguigan, mcmanus, mccarron , o hanlon, sexton . These are all top div 1 standard forwards. 3/4 of these boys defenders in their first year. It shows we never looked through the county previous to this or was it down to loyalty. This mgt set up is definitely a massive step up ( in very short timeframe) and deserve a 2 year contract after this. All I see is individuals improving week on week. 1 example daire o baoill now playing out of his skin. Mccole now one of best in business at full back. Onwards and upwards and delighted to say I was right in insisting there is some talent in this county despite others maintaining there wasn't to defend other mgt set ups." What top teams have we competed with? Derry beat us comfortably with loads to spare. We haven't played any of the real top teams yet. Monaghan scored 17 points and missed a load of chances. People seem to be getting carried away after 2 wins over Monaghan and Clare. greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 622 - 21/06/2023 08:34:38 2488015 Link
Replying To Curlew66: "I take it you mean Naomh Conaill or is your constant reference to some historical division/ amalgamation an attempt at being offensive to a small town club who refuse to bow to your obvious advantages." Why are you looking for a reason to be offended ?? The club covers the area of Fintown and glenties - what's the issue ? The great Brian Mc Eniff calls us letterkenny all the time and it doesn't matter one jot. Glenties / Fintown are not a small town club - they have one of the biggest catchment areas in the county. What obvious advantages do I have ? eunans4ever (Donegal) - Posts: 1691 - 21/06/2023 09:55:45 2488031 Link
Replying To greenfan: "What top teams have we competed with? Derry beat us comfortably with loads to spare. We haven't played any of the real top teams yet. Monaghan scored 17 points and missed a load of chances. People seem to be getting carried away after 2 wins over Monaghan and Clare." 100% correct - we are a funny bunch - a few weeks ago we wanted the mgt team out and now after a comfortable pasting by Derry and a win over a weak Clare team and Monaghan who are no world beaters - people are loosing the run of themselves and calling for mgt team to be giving longer terms etc.. Mad stuff….. eunans4ever (Donegal) - Posts: 1691 - 21/06/2023 10:00:21 2488035 Link
Replying To eunans4ever: "100% correct - we are a funny bunch - a few weeks ago we wanted the mgt team out and now after a comfortable pasting by Derry and a win over a weak Clare team and Monaghan who are no world beaters - people are loosing the run of themselves and calling for mgt team to be giving longer terms etc.. Mad stuff….." Tyrone have flattered to deceive as well. They may well beat us, but if we did manage to beat them I don't think it would be a massive shock or anything. No harm in a wee bit of optimism after what has been a fairly miserable 2023 to date. I wouldn't be calling for O'Rourke/Bradley to stay on long term. They've done well to turn the ship around a wee bit but I think at the end of the campaign, whenever it happens, it should be a case of thanks and good luck. Whether we win or lose on Saturday, the hard work to resolve the issues identified in the audit needs to start as soon as possible. It can't be allowed to drift. The Academy needs to be back up and running. That is probably more important than whoever is managing the senior team. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9730 - 21/06/2023 11:01:55 2488064 Link
An encouraging performance by the collective at the weekend. There's a lot of heart progressively being shown. Great to see Daire O Baoill showing great leadership, I thought he was below the intercounty standard under Bonner, but he's developed well. As farcical as the management appointment process was, we'd be fairly nuts not to at least consider the application of the current management ticket at the end of our summer with any other applicants, if we beat Tyrone. We're not currently an attractive managing option for a top manager and we won't be spoiled for choice. Looking forward to the clash with Tyrone. I always prefer to play them when they're motoring well as opposed to when they're in 'wounded animal' mode when they seem to react to poor results in a much more dangerous fashion than we do StockholmGael (Donegal) - Posts: 143 - 21/06/2023 11:12:11 2488067 Link
Delighted to beat Monaghan and for some lads to show good form but I would not be rushing out the door to give O'Rourke and Bradley a long term ticket. This weekend is a lottery as it's a derby and we are more then capable of beating Tyrone at home, they have been streaky this year but by the same token if it clicks for them I think they are All-Ireland contenders so if they get going I think we will find it hard to stop them. Having said that even if we get through on Saturday I would not expect us to beat any of the quarter finalists and would be surprised if we were even that competitive against any of the 4 outside of Armagh. I hope that's not coming across as overly negative, I'm very proud of the turnaround and guts shown by the lads after a really horrible 5 months for Donegal football, they knuckled down and have shown they are good footballers since half-time in Ennis. I was really worried for the squad at half-time that day because it was looking bleak but they have shown what we all know - Donegal has plenty of footballing talent. Considering all the losses in the playing pool since last year it's really positive that they've turned a corner the past couple of games in my opinion and there are building blocks for next year. But as I say I do not think the current management ticket are the answer to bring the lads on next year. They have done a solid job steadying the ship but that's it in my opinion. As a side note I was very impressed with Doherty against Monaghan the last day, he's not the biggest but he's well able in terms of physicality and covered the ground excellently, thought he played that sweeper role really well considering he should only get better with experience and reading the game etc. Hopefully he will continue to build on it CCFabu (Donegal) - Posts: 153 - 21/06/2023 11:15:47 2488070 Link
Replying To marty234: "This year is turning into a positive on the field no matter what happens now. We have shown we can compete with top teams even without some big names. I have to congratulate the new management for putting players in rather than let them serve their 4 year apprenticeship like previous management set ups. It shows the talent we have. Takes me back to Enniskillen 2021 v tyrone when we left likes of c o donnell gallen on bench because of loyalty to other players. What might have been. There was certain posters and ill not mention no names rory, maintained we had no man markers in the county and blamed club set ups for it. Look at mccole, mccolgan, John Ross to name a few who all did great jobs on likes of mcguigan, mcmanus, mccarron , o hanlon, sexton . These are all top div 1 standard forwards. 3/4 of these boys defenders in their first year. It shows we never looked through the county previous to this or was it down to loyalty. This mgt set up is definitely a massive step up ( in very short timeframe) and deserve a 2 year contract after this. All I see is individuals improving week on week. 1 example daire o baoill now playing out of his skin. Mccole now one of best in business at full back. Onwards and upwards and delighted to say I was right in insisting there is some talent in this county despite others maintaining there wasn't to defend other mgt set ups." Lazarus is back, we beat an ageing Monaghan team and all of a sudden we have a fantastic young team. In case it escapes you the reason that these young lads are playing is because manager had no other options. Two of our best players against Monaghan were Mc Cole and Jamie Brennan the same two who you slated bonner for playing regularly this last few years. Come back to me lad when we prove ourselves in croke park. I've no time for bluffers like your self we didn't hear from you all year now you're back talking your usual nonsense. I support all our managers l have no agendas like a few fools on here.. rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2605 - 21/06/2023 11:46:12 2488089 Link
Replying To eunans4ever: "Why are you looking for a reason to be offended ?? The club covers the area of Fintown and glenties - what's the issue ? The great Brian Mc Eniff calls us letterkenny all the time and it doesn't matter one jot. Glenties / Fintown are not a small town club - they have one of the biggest catchment areas in the county. What obvious advantages do I have ?" It goes well past Fintown nowadays though... SurelyToGod (Donegal) - Posts: 452 - 21/06/2023 13:01:16 2488124 Link
I know the scenario is different but let's not forget how easily Tyrone disposed of us in the league and that was coming after 2 very different results with Tyrone having lost to Roscommon in week 1 while we beat Kerry. Tyrone controlled that game from start to finish and won easily - the lineups were also very similar to what they will be this weekend. Canavan and McCurry in particular did a lot of damage that day. It's a big ask to turn that around this weekend. I still remember the pain of the loss in Ballybofey to Tyrone in the 2018 QF, hopefully that can spur a few of them on benjyyy (Donegal) - Posts: 1428 - 21/06/2023 13:21:06 2488136 Link
Replying To Lockjaw: "Yeah I know what you mean. I think maybe start McMenamin on Canavan, and when he is inevitably booked, move him on to someone else!! Isn't it great though that we've somehow found ourselves in the position we're in? A home draw against Tyrone for a chance to reach the quarter finals. Now Tyrone will no way be easy, but I think we definitely have a good chance. Hopefully we can put two good back-to-back performances together. Not the easiest thing to do with the short turnaround and in this very warm weather though." It's a pity that Odhran McFadden Ferry wasn't still in the squad, he is a tight man marking wing back who is perfect on the smaller or lower center of gravity forwards. Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1332 - 21/06/2023 13:36:21 2488142 Link
Peoplle who were getting carried away after the Kerry victory are getting carried away again. AudiMan (Donegal) - Posts: 683 - 21/06/2023 13:41:52 2488146 Link
We shouldn't be getting carried away. Saturday is at best a 50/50 game and us winning would be a surprise. But.... the team have shown great character in the last few weeks and they deserve our support. I definitely would not be giving the management ticket more years. Several of the player were interviewed on gaago after the match and they all mentioned the great work Anton McFadden is doing with them. Hard to know what is going on in the background, but that did jump out at me. It is a sad state of affairs that only through absolute necessity that 'newer' players have gotten game time this year. They have shown great character and are building experience. Hopefully when we get injuries cleared up and some lads back on the panel along with the players unearthed this year we'll be raring to go for next year... but for now...roll on Saturday... Yyyyeeeeoowwww himachechy (Donegal) - Posts: 293 - 21/06/2023 15:00:10 2488179 Link
Replying To AudiMan: "Peoplle who were getting carried away after the Kerry victory are getting carried away again." Thinking we can beat Tyrone at home is getting carried away? Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9730 - 21/06/2023 15:26:54 2488184 Link
Replying To Lockjaw: "Thinking we can beat Tyrone at home is getting carried away?" People talking about giving a manager a 2 year contract based on 2 victories against Clare and Monaghan is getting carried away. greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 622 - 21/06/2023 16:11:40 2488200 Link