National Forum

Longford GAA thread

(Oldest Posts First) - Go To The Latest Post


After result today football is really at probably an all time low. I do think the writing has been on the wall for few years though.

Club football is very weak overall in county and that only feeds our county team.

I will generous when I say 4 teams can win a senior championship right now. Realistically 3. But yet we have 12 teams and nobody wants to play junior because there's no prestige to the competition.

I think every competition would benefit from proper grading. Take 4 from senior to intermediate and the same to junior.

If you win your grade then you are better placed to move up.

Also looking at underage the very same needs to happen. Clubs playing down a level just to win.

Look at some of the underage results from last week.

Horsebox2020 (Longford) - Posts: 6 - 09/04/2023 20:23:14    2469901

Link

dont let the scoreline fool you only for gallagher today we were bet of the park. Awful

slasher9 (Longford) - Posts: 233 - 09/04/2023 21:11:05    2469919

Link

It doesn't seem to matter who the manager is, we're still playing the same slow, labourious still of football. We give the opposition plenty of time to drop men back in defence and we don't have big target men or physically strong players who can break though tackles. We need to be playing fast attacking football to have any hope.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 10/04/2023 14:01:19    2470010

Link

Replying To Horsebox2020:  "After result today football is really at probably an all time low. I do think the writing has been on the wall for few years though.

Club football is very weak overall in county and that only feeds our county team.

I will generous when I say 4 teams can win a senior championship right now. Realistically 3. But yet we have 12 teams and nobody wants to play junior because there's no prestige to the competition.

I think every competition would benefit from proper grading. Take 4 from senior to intermediate and the same to junior.

If you win your grade then you are better placed to move up.

Also looking at underage the very same needs to happen. Clubs playing down a level just to win.

Look at some of the underage results from last week."
Well said ,3 clubs at most can win the Senior Championship. You can nearly be certain Ballymahon will be relegated from Senior, Connollys relegated from Division 1 as well. Standard of underage has nose dived over the last 3 /4 years. Don't see us getting out of Div 4 for a long time . Baffled by the half time substitutions yesterday. Only decent ball into O Brien he won , but supporting player was awake for the pass and was turned over.

Therein2010 (Longford) - Posts: 45 - 10/04/2023 16:20:06    2470052

Link

Replying To Horsebox2020:  "After result today football is really at probably an all time low. I do think the writing has been on the wall for few years though.

Club football is very weak overall in county and that only feeds our county team.

I will generous when I say 4 teams can win a senior championship right now. Realistically 3. But yet we have 12 teams and nobody wants to play junior because there's no prestige to the competition.

I think every competition would benefit from proper grading. Take 4 from senior to intermediate and the same to junior.

If you win your grade then you are better placed to move up.

Also looking at underage the very same needs to happen. Clubs playing down a level just to win.

Look at some of the underage results from last week."
Assume you mean Division 2 of under 14 and under 16 leagues when you say 'clubs playing down a level just to win'. Aren't those leagues subject to promotion/relegation, so if you are in Division 2 this year it is because you either got relegated or didn't get promoted last year, and many players from last year are now overage and onto a different grade? So how would clubs play down a level just to win?

Don't disagree with your other point about the need to restructure club championships.

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 468 - 11/04/2023 10:51:39    2470163

Link

Replying To LongfordgaaAbú:  "Assume you mean Division 2 of under 14 and under 16 leagues when you say 'clubs playing down a level just to win'. Aren't those leagues subject to promotion/relegation, so if you are in Division 2 this year it is because you either got relegated or didn't get promoted last year, and many players from last year are now overage and onto a different grade? So how would clubs play down a level just to win?

Don't disagree with your other point about the need to restructure club championships."
Absolutely the u14 and U16. There has been some crazy results in last week.

Underage leagues have never been subject to promotion and relegation.

Clubs attend meeting at the start of the year and make submissions on what they feel their preferred league positions will be.

Horsebox2020 (Longford) - Posts: 6 - 11/04/2023 12:25:05    2470217

Link

Replying To LongfordgaaAbú:  "Assume you mean Division 2 of under 14 and under 16 leagues when you say 'clubs playing down a level just to win'. Aren't those leagues subject to promotion/relegation, so if you are in Division 2 this year it is because you either got relegated or didn't get promoted last year, and many players from last year are now overage and onto a different grade? So how would clubs play down a level just to win?

Don't disagree with your other point about the need to restructure club championships."
There is no promotion or relegation at underage, there can't be with players becoming overage. Clubs grade themselves in conjunction with the minor board.

If there are 4 senior teams capable of winning the championship at the outset then that is more than in recent years. For almost 10 years it was a two horse race between Killoe and Mullinalaghta. I do not ever remember a championship race as open as it is now, the standard is not as high but there are no clear favourites

liosbreac6265 (Longford) - Posts: 209 - 11/04/2023 12:30:39    2470220

Link

The league commenced at the weekend - didnt get to any games. Any teams looking good from the start or any big suprises.

honda15 (Longford) - Posts: 94 - 11/04/2023 14:44:37    2470277

Link

I agree on the above about the underage.
But what possibly should have been done is a Division 3 set up.
Ballymahon/Forgney Gaels, Shannon Gaels, Carrick Sarsfields and St. Patricks Og should been that division, the rest remain Division 2.
The Under 16 should also have a Division 3.
It's not fair on these kids going out and getting hammered week in week out when there is no league to play at their own level.

Spinx (Longford) - Posts: 1236 - 11/04/2023 15:06:12    2470288

Link

With the leagues starting back last weekend, how does everyone see them panning out?

My predictions:

Div 1 Group 1
Abbeylara
Killoe
Colmcille
Dromard
Clonguish

Group 2
Mullinalaghta
Longford Slashers
Mostrim
Carrickedmond
Granard - Relegated
Sean Connollys -Relegated




Division 2
Rathcline - Promoted
Fr. Manning Gaels
Ballymahon
Kenagh
Cashel
St. Patricks/Moydow
Ballymore - Relegated

Division 3
Legan Sarsfields - Promoted
St. Brigids
Young Grattans


Not sure how many go down and come up from Division 2 to 3.

Spinx (Longford) - Posts: 1236 - 11/04/2023 15:13:20    2470291

Link

Replying To Spinx:  "With the leagues starting back last weekend, how does everyone see them panning out?

My predictions:

Div 1 Group 1
Abbeylara
Killoe
Colmcille
Dromard
Clonguish

Group 2
Mullinalaghta
Longford Slashers
Mostrim
Carrickedmond
Granard - Relegated
Sean Connollys -Relegated




Division 2
Rathcline - Promoted
Fr. Manning Gaels
Ballymahon
Kenagh
Cashel
St. Patricks/Moydow
Ballymore - Relegated

Division 3
Legan Sarsfields - Promoted
St. Brigids
Young Grattans


Not sure how many go down and come up from Division 2 to 3."
I see Clonguish bet Dromard by 6 points on Sat evening. Dromard missing a few county players im guessing. Did Clonguish have many of their minor team feature?

honda15 (Longford) - Posts: 94 - 11/04/2023 15:27:03    2470303

Link

Replying To Horsebox2020:  "
Replying To LongfordgaaAbú:  "Assume you mean Division 2 of under 14 and under 16 leagues when you say 'clubs playing down a level just to win'. Aren't those leagues subject to promotion/relegation, so if you are in Division 2 this year it is because you either got relegated or didn't get promoted last year, and many players from last year are now overage and onto a different grade? So how would clubs play down a level just to win?

Don't disagree with your other point about the need to restructure club championships."
Absolutely the u14 and U16. There has been some crazy results in last week.

Underage leagues have never been subject to promotion and relegation.

Clubs attend meeting at the start of the year and make submissions on what they feel their preferred league positions will be."
Ah I see, thanks. Indeed some of those results at the weekend are wild, fairly dispiriting stuff for youngsters on the receiving end. Are the various submissions voted on by delegates or does the CCCC decide who goes where after the submissions are heard?

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 468 - 11/04/2023 15:31:53    2470304

Link

Replying To honda15:  "
Replying To Spinx:  "With the leagues starting back last weekend, how does everyone see them panning out?

My predictions:

Div 1 Group 1
Abbeylara
Killoe
Colmcille
Dromard
Clonguish

Group 2
Mullinalaghta
Longford Slashers
Mostrim
Carrickedmond
Granard - Relegated
Sean Connollys -Relegated




Division 2
Rathcline - Promoted
Fr. Manning Gaels
Ballymahon
Kenagh
Cashel
St. Patricks/Moydow
Ballymore - Relegated

Division 3
Legan Sarsfields - Promoted
St. Brigids
Young Grattans


Not sure how many go down and come up from Division 2 to 3."
I see Clonguish bet Dromard by 6 points on Sat evening. Dromard missing a few county players im guessing. Did Clonguish have many of their minor team feature?"
I think they only had 3 of the minors out.
Conor Smith, Jonathan Burke and Matthew Carey.
Still another 4 or 5 of that minor team to come into it.
Young Duggan went off injured after about 10 minutes.
Davy Barden made a comeback at full-forward, had a good game from what I read.

Oddball (Roscommon) - Posts: 888 - 11/04/2023 16:03:23    2470320

Link

The only surprising result from Saturday evenings games came at The Laurels with Slashers winning by a point.
Granard, Mostrim, Killoe and Rathcline all getting expectant wins.
Killoe had a massive win considering Clonguish have no County players.
Mostrim and Rathcline also scored big margin wins over their opponents.

Spinx (Longford) - Posts: 1236 - 16/04/2023 09:40:03    2471146

Link

Great win for the hurlers on Sunday. Scored 19 points in the first half, mostly from play. Can they back it up next weekend against Leitrim?

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 25/04/2023 12:12:12    2473659

Link

Anyone know what is going on in Dromard. Game with Killoe was cancelled while the teams were at the ground and apparently Dromard wouldn't accept Killoe's offer to play the game in Killoe. Apparently similar with Colmcille the week before with the game cancelled 20 minutes before throw in? Are they forfeiting or are games being rearranged?

GAALONGFORD (Longford) - Posts: 17 - 25/04/2023 12:32:42    2473670

Link

Replying To keeper7:  "Great win for the hurlers on Sunday. Scored 19 points in the first half, mostly from play. Can they back it up next weekend against Leitrim?"
It'll certainly be interesting to see if they can, seem to have struggled a lot with consistency this year and Leitrim seem to have their number so far this year. Entering must win territory now too!

keepitlit (Longford) - Posts: 33 - 25/04/2023 13:38:07    2473702

Link

Replying To keeper7:  "Great win for the hurlers on Sunday. Scored 19 points in the first half, mostly from play. Can they back it up next weekend against Leitrim?"
Moving very well. I would be disappointed if we don't get a result there.

liosbreac6265 (Longford) - Posts: 209 - 25/04/2023 14:12:38    2473721

Link

Replying To GAALONGFORD:  "Anyone know what is going on in Dromard. Game with Killoe was cancelled while the teams were at the ground and apparently Dromard wouldn't accept Killoe's offer to play the game in Killoe. Apparently similar with Colmcille the week before with the game cancelled 20 minutes before throw in? Are they forfeiting or are games being rearranged?"
Killoe notes at link state "Our Division 1 fixture v Dromard was called off due to a waterlogged pitch". Probably postponed and will be refixed.

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 468 - 25/04/2023 14:28:43    2473728

Link

Replying To LongfordgaaAbú:  "Killoe notes at link state "Our Division 1 fixture v Dromard was called off due to a waterlogged pitch". Probably postponed and will be refixed."
How did the other league games go

honda15 (Longford) - Posts: 94 - 26/04/2023 08:48:09    2473874

Link