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Replying To Wally:  "Can you name these incidents.

I can't find anything on them."
https://www.donegallive.ie/news/gaa/924178/donegal-footballer-handed-36-week-ban.html

reffingmad (Roscommon) - Posts: 344 - 29/09/2022 10:02:36    2442202

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Replying To reffingmad:  "https://www.donegallive.ie/news/gaa/924178/donegal-footballer-handed-36-week-ban.html"
Shush, this is meant to be just a Roscommon problem according to the above poster, don't bring inconvenient facts into the debate or mention the recent Wexford and Mayo incidents!

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 330 - 29/09/2022 10:55:53    2442209

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Replying To MachaireConnacht:  "Shush, this is meant to be just a Roscommon problem according to the above poster, don't bring inconvenient facts into the debate or mention the recent Wexford and Mayo incidents!"
And Kerry

reffingmad (Roscommon) - Posts: 344 - 29/09/2022 12:05:40    2442223

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Replying To SmokieRoss:  "
Replying To The_analyser:  "[quote=MachaireConnacht:  "[quote=The_analyser:  "So Noel Dunning of Aidans and this years senior selector will be the official U20 manager next week.

Semi final draws in the club championships done


Junior A

St Michaels/Padraig Pearses B V Kilglass/Strokestown B
St Ronans/Roscommon Gaels B V St Dominic's B/Ballinameen


Could be looking at another B team final. Hopefully one of the A teams at least reach the final

Intermediate

St Dominic's/Creggs V Fuerty/Castlerea
Eire Og/St Brigids B V St Croans/St Aidans

Winner of first semi final the likely winner of this county title but a great chance for Eire og or Croans to reach the final


Senior

Strokestown/Oran V Roscommon Gaels/Padraig Pearses
St Brigids/Clann na nGael V Boyle/Michael Glaveys

A repeat of the 2020 final with a repeat result?"
With manager distractions and maybe a bit of fatigue from last year, could there be a surprise on the Pearses side of the draw?"
Always a possibility. The distractions can't be helpful, don't think fatigue will be issue but perhaps hunger? Roscommon Gaels have had a number of competitive battles with Pearses over the last few years including knocking them out of the championship at the Quarter final stage 4 years ago."]That was Pearses with the bottlers tag. Bit more steel to them now and all depends on if they have the hunger to go for the two in a row connacht.

No disrespect to other posters tag about Liam Tully for senior position and the work he has done at underage getting to two all Irelands has certainly not been recognised by a lot of people including sections of the county board. That said I feel Pat Flanagan would be a better bet at senior level.

As already indicated on here by several posters it's the backroom team who will be crucial."]That was a Pearses side managed by Flanagan who would go on to win the county title the following year. Pearses got more matured, added another scoring forward to their line up (Paul Carey) to win tight matches. another few forwards are coming through the ranks now in Declan Kenny,Jack Tumulty,Eoin Colleran so county titles will be there to be won for them even after Pat departs this year.

Backroom team are as important as if not more important than who is the manager and by all accounts Flanagan has struggled to put together a decent backroom.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3309 - 29/09/2022 15:02:42    2442251

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Replying To The_analyser:  "
Replying To SmokieRoss:  "[quote=The_analyser:  "[quote=MachaireConnacht:  "[quote=The_analyser:  "So Noel Dunning of Aidans and this years senior selector will be the official U20 manager next week.

Semi final draws in the club championships done


Junior A

St Michaels/Padraig Pearses B V Kilglass/Strokestown B
St Ronans/Roscommon Gaels B V St Dominic's B/Ballinameen


Could be looking at another B team final. Hopefully one of the A teams at least reach the final

Intermediate

St Dominic's/Creggs V Fuerty/Castlerea
Eire Og/St Brigids B V St Croans/St Aidans

Winner of first semi final the likely winner of this county title but a great chance for Eire og or Croans to reach the final


Senior

Strokestown/Oran V Roscommon Gaels/Padraig Pearses
St Brigids/Clann na nGael V Boyle/Michael Glaveys

A repeat of the 2020 final with a repeat result?"
With manager distractions and maybe a bit of fatigue from last year, could there be a surprise on the Pearses side of the draw?"
Always a possibility. The distractions can't be helpful, don't think fatigue will be issue but perhaps hunger? Roscommon Gaels have had a number of competitive battles with Pearses over the last few years including knocking them out of the championship at the Quarter final stage 4 years ago."]That was Pearses with the bottlers tag. Bit more steel to them now and all depends on if they have the hunger to go for the two in a row connacht.

No disrespect to other posters tag about Liam Tully for senior position and the work he has done at underage getting to two all Irelands has certainly not been recognised by a lot of people including sections of the county board. That said I feel Pat Flanagan would be a better bet at senior level.

As already indicated on here by several posters it's the backroom team who will be crucial."]That was a Pearses side managed by Flanagan who would go on to win the county title the following year. Pearses got more matured, added another scoring forward to their line up (Paul Carey) to win tight matches. another few forwards are coming through the ranks now in Declan Kenny,Jack Tumulty,Eoin Colleran so county titles will be there to be won for them even after Pat departs this year.

Backroom team are as important as if not more important than who is the manager and by all accounts Flanagan has struggled to put together a decent backroom."]Flanagan seems to be the only name being mentioned these days.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 509 - 29/09/2022 18:55:17    2442263

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "
Replying To The_analyser:  "[quote=SmokieRoss:  "[quote=The_analyser:  "[quote=MachaireConnacht:  "[quote=The_analyser:  "So Noel Dunning of Aidans and this years senior selector will be the official U20 manager next week.

Semi final draws in the club championships done


Junior A

St Michaels/Padraig Pearses B V Kilglass/Strokestown B
St Ronans/Roscommon Gaels B V St Dominic's B/Ballinameen


Could be looking at another B team final. Hopefully one of the A teams at least reach the final

Intermediate

St Dominic's/Creggs V Fuerty/Castlerea
Eire Og/St Brigids B V St Croans/St Aidans

Winner of first semi final the likely winner of this county title but a great chance for Eire og or Croans to reach the final


Senior

Strokestown/Oran V Roscommon Gaels/Padraig Pearses
St Brigids/Clann na nGael V Boyle/Michael Glaveys

A repeat of the 2020 final with a repeat result?"
With manager distractions and maybe a bit of fatigue from last year, could there be a surprise on the Pearses side of the draw?"
Always a possibility. The distractions can't be helpful, don't think fatigue will be issue but perhaps hunger? Roscommon Gaels have had a number of competitive battles with Pearses over the last few years including knocking them out of the championship at the Quarter final stage 4 years ago."]That was Pearses with the bottlers tag. Bit more steel to them now and all depends on if they have the hunger to go for the two in a row connacht.

No disrespect to other posters tag about Liam Tully for senior position and the work he has done at underage getting to two all Irelands has certainly not been recognised by a lot of people including sections of the county board. That said I feel Pat Flanagan would be a better bet at senior level.

As already indicated on here by several posters it's the backroom team who will be crucial."]That was a Pearses side managed by Flanagan who would go on to win the county title the following year. Pearses got more matured, added another scoring forward to their line up (Paul Carey) to win tight matches. another few forwards are coming through the ranks now in Declan Kenny,Jack Tumulty,Eoin Colleran so county titles will be there to be won for them even after Pat departs this year.

Backroom team are as important as if not more important than who is the manager and by all accounts Flanagan has struggled to put together a decent backroom."]Flanagan seems to be the only name being mentioned these days."]No disrespect to Pat Flanagan but if Pat Flanagan is appointed as Manager of the Roscommon senior football team, then Roscommon are going nowhere and Roscommon don't have any ambition to go anywhere. I still don't expect it to happen but it's hard to know what's going on the longer the process goes on and nothing from the County Board. Best of luck to Noel Dunning with the U20s. There are plenty of good young players in Roscommon.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 1831 - 29/09/2022 20:52:15    2442277

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@endgame i believe you wanted Anthony Cunningham gone by 2020. As the saying goes be careful what you wish for. Finding a replacement for him has been no easy task and could likely end up with a down grade on Cunningham now.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 2948 - 29/09/2022 21:26:45    2442280

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Replying To Gaa_lover:  "@endgame i believe you wanted Anthony Cunningham gone by 2020. As the saying goes be careful what you wish for. Finding a replacement for him has been no easy task and could likely end up with a down grade on Cunningham now."
Most likely looking like a massive down grade on Cunningham and it's getting embarrassing that no one wants the job. We will end up with Flanagan who will bring his buddies in as backroom team. I'm still praying the county board are lining up something better

dave1988 (Roscommon) - Posts: 893 - 30/09/2022 11:35:07    2442305

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Replying To Gaa_lover:  "@endgame i believe you wanted Anthony Cunningham gone by 2020. As the saying goes be careful what you wish for. Finding a replacement for him has been no easy task and could likely end up with a down grade on Cunningham now."
I think I might have been right in November 2020. Roscommon won one championship game in the following two seasons and that against a 14 man Division 4 team. Anyway that's in the past. Roscommon have talented footballers and more players coming through from U20. Our forwards are amongst the best in the country. It's a huge pity if we can't get a quality Manager to bring the team forward. I don't know what's going on with the County Board and the recruitment process. Monaghan are a Division 1 team and they ended up appointing a former player Vinny Corey. Donegal who have been one of the best teams in the country over the last few years still haven't made an appointment. I hope Roscommon get the right Manager even if we have had to wait. I don't think Pat Flanagan is the man.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 1831 - 30/09/2022 13:08:17    2442316

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Replying To endgame:  "I think I might have been right in November 2020. Roscommon won one championship game in the following two seasons and that against a 14 man Division 4 team. Anyway that's in the past. Roscommon have talented footballers and more players coming through from U20. Our forwards are amongst the best in the country. It's a huge pity if we can't get a quality Manager to bring the team forward. I don't know what's going on with the County Board and the recruitment process. Monaghan are a Division 1 team and they ended up appointing a former player Vinny Corey. Donegal who have been one of the best teams in the country over the last few years still haven't made an appointment. I hope Roscommon get the right Manager even if we have had to wait. I don't think Pat Flanagan is the man."
If any if the "right" managers were interested they'd surely be appointed by now?
There will be only 2 teams left in each of the 3 Club Championships by Sunday 9th October so we'll have to go for someone local or of Ros extraction.
A total outsider won't have seen many players in action.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 509 - 30/09/2022 14:54:19    2442329

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If ye were Pat Flanagan would ya take the job now? It's clear they are trying to find someone else and he's a last resort, otherwise he would have had the job ages ago. He wouldn't be my first or second choice but I wouldn't blame him if he politely turned it down now either.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 330 - 30/09/2022 15:10:16    2442332

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Replying To endgame:  "I think I might have been right in November 2020. Roscommon won one championship game in the following two seasons and that against a 14 man Division 4 team. Anyway that's in the past. Roscommon have talented footballers and more players coming through from U20. Our forwards are amongst the best in the country. It's a huge pity if we can't get a quality Manager to bring the team forward. I don't know what's going on with the County Board and the recruitment process. Monaghan are a Division 1 team and they ended up appointing a former player Vinny Corey. Donegal who have been one of the best teams in the country over the last few years still haven't made an appointment. I hope Roscommon get the right Manager even if we have had to wait. I don't think Pat Flanagan is the man."
How are you right when you thought with a click of the fingers a better manager would be brought in than Cunningham. The struggle to appoint anyone shows the reality and your ignoring the fact that Cunningham has left Roscommon in Div 1 and a downgrade replacement could easily lead Roscommon back to Div 3.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 2948 - 30/09/2022 15:40:33    2442339

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Replying To Gaa_lover:  "How are you right when you thought with a click of the fingers a better manager would be brought in than Cunningham. The struggle to appoint anyone shows the reality and your ignoring the fact that Cunningham has left Roscommon in Div 1 and a downgrade replacement could easily lead Roscommon back to Div 3."
Didn't Cunningham win just one championship game in 3 years? Only defeating a 14 man Div 4 team

reffingmad (Roscommon) - Posts: 344 - 30/09/2022 16:49:37    2442343

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Replying To endgame:  "I think I might have been right in November 2020. Roscommon won one championship game in the following two seasons and that against a 14 man Division 4 team. Anyway that's in the past. Roscommon have talented footballers and more players coming through from U20. Our forwards are amongst the best in the country. It's a huge pity if we can't get a quality Manager to bring the team forward. I don't know what's going on with the County Board and the recruitment process. Monaghan are a Division 1 team and they ended up appointing a former player Vinny Corey. Donegal who have been one of the best teams in the country over the last few years still haven't made an appointment. I hope Roscommon get the right Manager even if we have had to wait. I don't think Pat Flanagan is the man."
Endgame: How could you have been right about Anthony Cunningham in 2020 when Roscommon won a fantastic Connacht championship in 2019 by beating Mayo for the first time in nearly 40 years in Castlebar and also Galway in Pearse stadium.

For example, in some of your recent posts you include statements such as:-

while indicating '"no disrespect to Anthony Cunningham, Liam Tully, Pat Flanagan .... etc", you continually dismiss them as 'not being up to the job'.

* Anthony Cunningham won a Connacht title very much against the odds with Roscommon and has left us in division 1
* Liam Tully got both Roscommon under 17s and under 20 teams into All Ireland Finals which was a fantastic achievement.
* Pat Flanagan has won two Roscommon County titles and also a Connacht club championship with Pearses for the first time.
For some reason you seem to get some malicious pleasure in running down people who have put everything into the job of trying to improve Roscommon football.

All three men have given their all for Roscommon club and county teams and are due much more respect for their efforts. Stating "with no disrespect" in your posts is bu----it and you know it. I think that it would be a much better use of your time suggesting who you think should be the new Roscommon manager and backroom team, while also including some justification for your answers.

I would like to wish the county board well in their search for a new manager and backroom team as it is a very difficult job in the current climate. It is very likely that the new manager will not have the experience of Anthony Cunningham and some posters will be unhappy no matter who is appointed.

Personally, I would like to see Cathal Cregg having some involvement in the new management team, not necessarily being the new manager. Cathal played 16 years under a range of different Roscommon managers (Anthony Cunningham, Kevin McStay, Fergal O' Donnell, John Evens, John Maughan etc), DCU managers, International Rules managers, which, allied to his relevant PhD and Masters in Exercise Science, would bring recent up-to-date thinking and reflection to the management team. I know that Cathal is still playing, has a challenging job and a very young family, but the county board should try to get him involved in some capacity, if possible.

letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 96 - 30/09/2022 17:05:58    2442346

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Replying To Gaa_lover:  "How are you right when you thought with a click of the fingers a better manager would be brought in than Cunningham. The struggle to appoint anyone shows the reality and your ignoring the fact that Cunningham has left Roscommon in Div 1 and a downgrade replacement could easily lead Roscommon back to Div 3."
It's about the championship. It's about results. Apart from his first year of 2019, Cunningham's record in the championship was poor. There was no case for him staying on for a fifth year. I don't know what's going on behind the scenes with the County Board. We'll have to see what happens. There are plenty of good footballers on this Roscommon team and we should be doing a lot better than we have been.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 1831 - 30/09/2022 17:33:31    2442349

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How do we see the Quarter finals going this weekend? For me.

Senior

Strokestown v Oran. Oran into the last 8 for the 2nd year in a row having lost just 1 game that's good progress from a team that struggled to get out of the intermediate grade. How they handle McGann, Colin Compton will be key here. In Carty, Fitzpatrick and S Walsh, D Walsh they have the forwards to prevail here. Oran by 1

Roscommon Gaels v Padraig Pearses as i said already a number of competitive battles between these two sides over the last 5 years. Won't be surprised if extra time is required to find a winner here with Pearses progressing narrowly.


St Brigids v Clann na nGael if Clann defend as poorly as they did against Boyle they'll ship another heavy defeat. Injuries lads in America hasn't helped their cause and will be a surprise if they cause upset here. Brigids by 4.

Boyle v Michael Glaveys. Hard to see past a comfortable win for Boyle. They are free scoring while Glaveys are very loose at the back. Boyle by 6


Intermediate

St Dominic's v Creggs. Dominics the favourites for this county title should win this match by at least 5 points

Fuerty v Castlerea. Fuerty look like the strongest contender to Dominics and Castlerea smarting from poor performance against their neighbours. Fuerty by 4

Eire Og v St Brigids B. Eire Óg topped their table by winning all their games but how strong was their group? Only beat Clann B by 1 point and have a feeling a simliar margin of victory against Brigids B.

St Croans v St Aidans better scoring power and having the senior experience will give Croans the edge by about 5 points


Junior A

I think we'll see wins for Pearses, Kilglass, Roscommon Gaels,Dominics

Another big game this weekend is the Div 1 U17 final. Logic suggests Roscommon Gaels will retain the title however Glaveys/Eire Og have forwards like Brian Greene, Robert Heneghan to cause upset.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3309 - 30/09/2022 17:40:00    2442350

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Replying To The_analyser:  "How do we see the Quarter finals going this weekend? For me.

Senior

Strokestown v Oran. Oran into the last 8 for the 2nd year in a row having lost just 1 game that's good progress from a team that struggled to get out of the intermediate grade. How they handle McGann, Colin Compton will be key here. In Carty, Fitzpatrick and S Walsh, D Walsh they have the forwards to prevail here. Oran by 1

Roscommon Gaels v Padraig Pearses as i said already a number of competitive battles between these two sides over the last 5 years. Won't be surprised if extra time is required to find a winner here with Pearses progressing narrowly.


St Brigids v Clann na nGael if Clann defend as poorly as they did against Boyle they'll ship another heavy defeat. Injuries lads in America hasn't helped their cause and will be a surprise if they cause upset here. Brigids by 4.

Boyle v Michael Glaveys. Hard to see past a comfortable win for Boyle. They are free scoring while Glaveys are very loose at the back. Boyle by 6


Intermediate

St Dominic's v Creggs. Dominics the favourites for this county title should win this match by at least 5 points

Fuerty v Castlerea. Fuerty look like the strongest contender to Dominics and Castlerea smarting from poor performance against their neighbours. Fuerty by 4

Eire Og v St Brigids B. Eire Óg topped their table by winning all their games but how strong was their group? Only beat Clann B by 1 point and have a feeling a simliar margin of victory against Brigids B.

St Croans v St Aidans better scoring power and having the senior experience will give Croans the edge by about 5 points


Junior A

I think we'll see wins for Pearses, Kilglass, Roscommon Gaels,Dominics

Another big game this weekend is the Div 1 U17 final. Logic suggests Roscommon Gaels will retain the title however Glaveys/Eire Og have forwards like Brian Greene, Robert Heneghan to cause upset."
Oran, Pearses, Brids, Boyle.
Does, Fuerty, Éire Óg, Croans.
Hopefully all the 1st teams win the Junior.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 509 - 30/09/2022 19:26:15    2442363

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Replying To reffingmad:  "Didn't Cunningham win just one championship game in 3 years? Only defeating a 14 man Div 4 team"
only played a handful of championship games in the last 3 years and games against Galway,Mayo were favourites to lose. The defeat to Clare and manner of it was as much on the players as manager. To me it seems it would have been easier on the Roscommon county board to bring in a defensive coach to work along side Cunningham than have 3 month search for a new management team.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 2948 - 30/09/2022 19:32:31    2442366

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Replying To letsgetgoing:  "Endgame: How could you have been right about Anthony Cunningham in 2020 when Roscommon won a fantastic Connacht championship in 2019 by beating Mayo for the first time in nearly 40 years in Castlebar and also Galway in Pearse stadium.

For example, in some of your recent posts you include statements such as:-

while indicating '"no disrespect to Anthony Cunningham, Liam Tully, Pat Flanagan .... etc", you continually dismiss them as 'not being up to the job'.

* Anthony Cunningham won a Connacht title very much against the odds with Roscommon and has left us in division 1
* Liam Tully got both Roscommon under 17s and under 20 teams into All Ireland Finals which was a fantastic achievement.
* Pat Flanagan has won two Roscommon County titles and also a Connacht club championship with Pearses for the first time.
For some reason you seem to get some malicious pleasure in running down people who have put everything into the job of trying to improve Roscommon football.

All three men have given their all for Roscommon club and county teams and are due much more respect for their efforts. Stating "with no disrespect" in your posts is bu----it and you know it. I think that it would be a much better use of your time suggesting who you think should be the new Roscommon manager and backroom team, while also including some justification for your answers.

I would like to wish the county board well in their search for a new manager and backroom team as it is a very difficult job in the current climate. It is very likely that the new manager will not have the experience of Anthony Cunningham and some posters will be unhappy no matter who is appointed.

Personally, I would like to see Cathal Cregg having some involvement in the new management team, not necessarily being the new manager. Cathal played 16 years under a range of different Roscommon managers (Anthony Cunningham, Kevin McStay, Fergal O' Donnell, John Evens, John Maughan etc), DCU managers, International Rules managers, which, allied to his relevant PhD and Masters in Exercise Science, would bring recent up-to-date thinking and reflection to the management team. I know that Cathal is still playing, has a challenging job and a very young family, but the county board should try to get him involved in some capacity, if possible."
I think Cathal Cregg has huge potential on the coaching front. Maybe involevment with minor or U20 first?

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 330 - 30/09/2022 20:38:21    2442372

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Replying To The_analyser:  "How do we see the Quarter finals going this weekend? For me.

Senior

Strokestown v Oran. Oran into the last 8 for the 2nd year in a row having lost just 1 game that's good progress from a team that struggled to get out of the intermediate grade. How they handle McGann, Colin Compton will be key here. In Carty, Fitzpatrick and S Walsh, D Walsh they have the forwards to prevail here. Oran by 1

Roscommon Gaels v Padraig Pearses as i said already a number of competitive battles between these two sides over the last 5 years. Won't be surprised if extra time is required to find a winner here with Pearses progressing narrowly.


St Brigids v Clann na nGael if Clann defend as poorly as they did against Boyle they'll ship another heavy defeat. Injuries lads in America hasn't helped their cause and will be a surprise if they cause upset here. Brigids by 4.

Boyle v Michael Glaveys. Hard to see past a comfortable win for Boyle. They are free scoring while Glaveys are very loose at the back. Boyle by 6


Intermediate

St Dominic's v Creggs. Dominics the favourites for this county title should win this match by at least 5 points

Fuerty v Castlerea. Fuerty look like the strongest contender to Dominics and Castlerea smarting from poor performance against their neighbours. Fuerty by 4

Eire Og v St Brigids B. Eire Óg topped their table by winning all their games but how strong was their group? Only beat Clann B by 1 point and have a feeling a simliar margin of victory against Brigids B.

St Croans v St Aidans better scoring power and having the senior experience will give Croans the edge by about 5 points


Junior A

I think we'll see wins for Pearses, Kilglass, Roscommon Gaels,Dominics

Another big game this weekend is the Div 1 U17 final. Logic suggests Roscommon Gaels will retain the title however Glaveys/Eire Og have forwards like Brian Greene, Robert Heneghan to cause upset."
Oran, Pearses (although I'm tempted to pick the Gaels, just feels like there could be an upset on that side of the draw), Brigids and Boyle

Dominics, Fuerty, Eire Og and Croans

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 330 - 30/09/2022 20:41:28    2442374

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