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Forgot to add I think Tulsk will beat Elphin in the relegation battle.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 330 - 30/09/2022 20:43:26    2442376

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Replying To MachaireConnacht:  "Forgot to add I think Tulsk will beat Elphin in the relegation battle."
Elphin. The glamour team of the 1950s.! They won 5 senior county championships during that decade. Third in the roll of honour overall.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 1831 - 01/10/2022 08:53:31    2442389

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Replying To endgame:  "Elphin. The glamour team of the 1950s.! They won 5 senior county championships during that decade. Third in the roll of honour overall."
Had a bishop to:-)

OhtobeARossie (Roscommon) - Posts: 1689 - 01/10/2022 10:43:37    2442397

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Replying To letsgetgoing:  "Endgame: How could you have been right about Anthony Cunningham in 2020 when Roscommon won a fantastic Connacht championship in 2019 by beating Mayo for the first time in nearly 40 years in Castlebar and also Galway in Pearse stadium.

For example, in some of your recent posts you include statements such as:-

while indicating '"no disrespect to Anthony Cunningham, Liam Tully, Pat Flanagan .... etc", you continually dismiss them as 'not being up to the job'.

* Anthony Cunningham won a Connacht title very much against the odds with Roscommon and has left us in division 1
* Liam Tully got both Roscommon under 17s and under 20 teams into All Ireland Finals which was a fantastic achievement.
* Pat Flanagan has won two Roscommon County titles and also a Connacht club championship with Pearses for the first time.
For some reason you seem to get some malicious pleasure in running down people who have put everything into the job of trying to improve Roscommon football.

All three men have given their all for Roscommon club and county teams and are due much more respect for their efforts. Stating "with no disrespect" in your posts is bu----it and you know it. I think that it would be a much better use of your time suggesting who you think should be the new Roscommon manager and backroom team, while also including some justification for your answers.

I would like to wish the county board well in their search for a new manager and backroom team as it is a very difficult job in the current climate. It is very likely that the new manager will not have the experience of Anthony Cunningham and some posters will be unhappy no matter who is appointed.

Personally, I would like to see Cathal Cregg having some involvement in the new management team, not necessarily being the new manager. Cathal played 16 years under a range of different Roscommon managers (Anthony Cunningham, Kevin McStay, Fergal O' Donnell, John Evens, John Maughan etc), DCU managers, International Rules managers, which, allied to his relevant PhD and Masters in Exercise Science, would bring recent up-to-date thinking and reflection to the management team. I know that Cathal is still playing, has a challenging job and a very young family, but the county board should try to get him involved in some capacity, if possible."
I agree with you about Cathal Cregg but I think he works for Connacht gaa which may rule him out from being involved in the Roscommon setup. I don't agree with you about Anthony Cunningham. Roscommon have a lot of talented players at present. Players who got to All Ireland U21 Finals in 2012 and 2014 and only lost to Dublin teams containing players who have become legends of the game. We have the Dalys, the Smiths, the Murtaghs and Ultan Harney. Apart from 2019 which was a great Connacht title for us and I was in Salthill, Roscommon's championship record under AC has been very poor. Not alone the defeats but also the manner of the defeats. We lost our Connacht title to Mayo in November 2020 with a whimper in the Hyde. A totally listless performance by Ros who never got going at all. In 2021, again at the Hyde, we produced a dreadful defensive performance against Galway and were deservedly beaten. We struggled this year in the first half against 14 man Division 4 Sligo. We only pulled away in the second half. Clare are a poor team. Derry showed that and Limerick had beaten Clare in Munster. Yet we couldn't beat Clare in Croke Park and we collapsed in the last few minutes against them. I just can't understand people who argue AC should have got a fifth year. With the players we have, the results and performances in the championship should have been a lot better these last 3 years. As for Pat Flanagan, his inter county management career has been with Counties in the lower reaches of the League. Sligo, Offaly, Westmeath. I don't think he's a fit for the Roscommon job. I don't think I commented on Liam Tully for the senior job. He had a great year with the U20s in 2021.I do think we left a Connacht title at that grade behind us this year. I'd like to see an internal county appointment. I think Fergal O'Donnell is a great Roscommon gaa man with an excellent management record. I also think Nigel Dinneen should be looked at given his U 21 record but I don't know who's in the running for the Ros senior job or who wants it. There is a lot of commitment and time involved.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 1831 - 01/10/2022 14:55:46    2442414

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Replying To endgame:  "I agree with you about Cathal Cregg but I think he works for Connacht gaa which may rule him out from being involved in the Roscommon setup. I don't agree with you about Anthony Cunningham. Roscommon have a lot of talented players at present. Players who got to All Ireland U21 Finals in 2012 and 2014 and only lost to Dublin teams containing players who have become legends of the game. We have the Dalys, the Smiths, the Murtaghs and Ultan Harney. Apart from 2019 which was a great Connacht title for us and I was in Salthill, Roscommon's championship record under AC has been very poor. Not alone the defeats but also the manner of the defeats. We lost our Connacht title to Mayo in November 2020 with a whimper in the Hyde. A totally listless performance by Ros who never got going at all. In 2021, again at the Hyde, we produced a dreadful defensive performance against Galway and were deservedly beaten. We struggled this year in the first half against 14 man Division 4 Sligo. We only pulled away in the second half. Clare are a poor team. Derry showed that and Limerick had beaten Clare in Munster. Yet we couldn't beat Clare in Croke Park and we collapsed in the last few minutes against them. I just can't understand people who argue AC should have got a fifth year. With the players we have, the results and performances in the championship should have been a lot better these last 3 years. As for Pat Flanagan, his inter county management career has been with Counties in the lower reaches of the League. Sligo, Offaly, Westmeath. I don't think he's a fit for the Roscommon job. I don't think I commented on Liam Tully for the senior job. He had a great year with the U20s in 2021.I do think we left a Connacht title at that grade behind us this year. I'd like to see an internal county appointment. I think Fergal O'Donnell is a great Roscommon gaa man with an excellent management record. I also think Nigel Dinneen should be looked at given his U 21 record but I don't know who's in the running for the Ros senior job or who wants it. There is a lot of commitment and time involved."
In fairness endgame you have justified your opinion and stated who you would like to manage the Roscommon football team. I just feel that in several of the cases you mentioned (for example this year's under 20's) the players let the management teams down which has also to be taken into consideration.
On a small point of correction, you did comment indirectly about Liam Tully when you stated in one of your posts (29/9 @ 20.52pm) that:
"No disrespect to other posters tag about Liam Tully for the senior position................. That said I feel Pat Flanagan would be a better bet at senior level." We know from several of your posts how you feel about Pat Flanagan!

We will just have to agree to disagree and leave it at that.

I acknowledge that we both want the best for Roscommon football and are passionate about it. Hopefully the county board will soon appointment a strong management team. However, all Roscommon supporters should get behind the new management team and players next year as they will need all the support that they can get in division 1 and in a very competitive Connacht championship.

letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 96 - 01/10/2022 17:31:46    2442425

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Hard to believe Kilbride relegated to Junior, would not have predicted that at the start of the campaign. How are they doing at underage? Two big schools in the parish you'd think population shouldn't be an issue but then a lot from Roscommon town go to Derrane and maybe end up playing club with the Gaels.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 330 - 01/10/2022 18:03:10    2442428

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Replying To letsgetgoing:  "In fairness endgame you have justified your opinion and stated who you would like to manage the Roscommon football team. I just feel that in several of the cases you mentioned (for example this year's under 20's) the players let the management teams down which has also to be taken into consideration.
On a small point of correction, you did comment indirectly about Liam Tully when you stated in one of your posts (29/9 @ 20.52pm) that:
"No disrespect to other posters tag about Liam Tully for the senior position................. That said I feel Pat Flanagan would be a better bet at senior level." We know from several of your posts how you feel about Pat Flanagan!

We will just have to agree to disagree and leave it at that.

I acknowledge that we both want the best for Roscommon football and are passionate about it. Hopefully the county board will soon appointment a strong management team. However, all Roscommon supporters should get behind the new management team and players next year as they will need all the support that they can get in division 1 and in a very competitive Connacht championship."
I didn't mention mention Liam Tully at all in that post. On your other points fair enough. We all wish the best for Roscommon football and it would be very boring if we all thought the same thing.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 1831 - 01/10/2022 18:30:25    2442432

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The one potential upset this weekend was Roscommon Gaels v Pearses and that's how it turned out. Connacht and defending County champions out at the Quarter final stage i think that highlights the competitive nature of our club championship.

Apart from the opening 10 minutes Roscommon Gaels was much the better team on and off the field. Hughes, Purcell, McDermott, Kilcline, Lambe among their stand out this win should give them great confidence now, Frankie Dolan in fairness to him has them fit and well drilled.

End of for Pat Flanagan as Pearses manager I'd say now regardless if he becomes Roscommon manager or not. 5 seasons two county titles and a provincial title not a bad return i doubt his replacement will do much better.

Other game i took in was the county minor Div 1 final. A fine win for Glaveys/Eire Og who trailed by 3 at half time to win by 1. No back to back titles for McStay as he starts his next adventure with Mayo seniors.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3309 - 01/10/2022 18:30:46    2442433

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Replying To MachaireConnacht:  "Hard to believe Kilbride relegated to Junior, would not have predicted that at the start of the campaign. How are they doing at underage? Two big schools in the parish you'd think population shouldn't be an issue but then a lot from Roscommon town go to Derrane and maybe end up playing club with the Gaels."
They aren't. Relegation final is between Clann B and Shannon Gaels.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3309 - 01/10/2022 18:45:01    2442437

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Replying To MachaireConnacht:  "Hard to believe Kilbride relegated to Junior, would not have predicted that at the start of the campaign. How are they doing at underage? Two big schools in the parish you'd think population shouldn't be an issue but then a lot from Roscommon town go to Derrane and maybe end up playing club with the Gaels."
The Intermediate relegation playoff is tomorrow between Shannon Gaels and Clann B.

Any word on Noel Dunning's backroom team for the 20s?

Ros13 (Roscommon) - Posts: 98 - 01/10/2022 18:55:32    2442438

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Replying To The_analyser:  "They aren't. Relegation final is between Clann B and Shannon Gaels."
What was the game against Aidans? I thought I saw relegation play off.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 330 - 01/10/2022 20:24:53    2442453

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Replying To MachaireConnacht:  "Hard to believe Kilbride relegated to Junior, would not have predicted that at the start of the campaign. How are they doing at underage? Two big schools in the parish you'd think population shouldn't be an issue but then a lot from Roscommon town go to Derrane and maybe end up playing club with the Gaels."
They aren't

reffingmad (Roscommon) - Posts: 344 - 01/10/2022 20:37:19    2442455

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Replying To MachaireConnacht:  "What was the game against Aidans? I thought I saw relegation play off."
it was a 8th placed play off. Aidans well beaten by Croans today. Elsewhere Elphin had dropped to intermediate grade while Croans,Fuerty are coming to the boil at the right time.

Good win for Ballinameen in the Junior A championship but its feared they have lost one of their best players to a long term injury. Strokestown B beat Kilglass by a point.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3309 - 01/10/2022 21:01:04    2442457

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Replying To MachaireConnacht:  "Hard to believe Kilbride relegated to Junior, would not have predicted that at the start of the campaign. How are they doing at underage? Two big schools in the parish you'd think population shouldn't be an issue but then a lot from Roscommon town go to Derrane and maybe end up playing club with the Gaels."
What are you rabbiting on about. Your not too well informed in Roscommon football affairs if your making silly comments like the above. They got a chsp win which secured their status and were knocked out by Aidans for a place in the QFS.

moros (Roscommon) - Posts: 1056 - 01/10/2022 21:19:31    2442461

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Replying To MachaireConnacht:  "What was the game against Aidans? I thought I saw relegation play off."
To see who qualified for QF, Aidans went to QF but we'll beaten today

reffingmad (Roscommon) - Posts: 344 - 01/10/2022 21:22:16    2442462

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Replying To moros:  "What are you rabbiting on about. Your not too well informed in Roscommon football affairs if your making silly comments like the above. They got a chsp win which secured their status and were knocked out by Aidans for a place in the QFS."
Misread the fixture list. Shoot me. Must be great to be you never making a mistake in your life.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 330 - 02/10/2022 11:54:34    2442482

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Replying To MachaireConnacht:  "Misread the fixture list. Shoot me. Must be great to be you never making a mistake in your life."
He was hard on you. No doubt about it.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 1831 - 02/10/2022 15:44:45    2442504

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Strokestown done well, they dug deep today. A game littered with mistakes from both sides. Diarmuid McGann was impressive. Pity Sean Mulloolly isn't playing county. Orans forwards never seemed to get into the game bar for a couple of occasions. They'll be disappointed with that performance.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 330 - 02/10/2022 16:31:47    2442509

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Replying To endgame:  "He was hard on you. No doubt about it."
Could be worse.

On the championship front the Gaels will be happy looking at todays game, Strokestown with lots of improvement to make but will be happy how they kept the Oran forwards quiet and a man down.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 330 - 02/10/2022 16:39:02    2442510

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Replying To MachaireConnacht:  "Strokestown done well, they dug deep today. A game littered with mistakes from both sides. Diarmuid McGann was impressive. Pity Sean Mulloolly isn't playing county. Orans forwards never seemed to get into the game bar for a couple of occasions. They'll be disappointed with that performance."
Did very well. With 15 minutes to play found themselves 2 points down and down to 14 minutes. It sparked them into life the 1st goal that gave them the lead was outstanding. Not sure how Oran was ahead 1st half when Strokestown was on top and winning most of the personal battles.

This 2nd game is currently half time and looking like a routine win for Boyle unless Glaveys can find something 2nd half.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3309 - 02/10/2022 16:55:21    2442512

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