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Replying To eoinog:  "I am curious to know why there's so much positivity with Davy Burke at the moment. He is hailed as the new messiah by most followers of Roscommon football. A quick look at your achievements this year doesn't reflect this new found popularity. He's maintained your Div 1 status which was great but you were in Div 1 before he arrived, beat Mayo in the Championship but Lost to Galway in Connacht final. In the next 4 games you just managed to beat one team ( yes that was us) . All other teams were Div 2 teams. You exited the championship at preliminary quarter finals, basically the same stage as last year when you lost to Clare. However last year there was a queue to dump Anthony Cunningham. Am I missing something ???"
Firstly there was no queue to get rid of Anthony Cunningham .. people weren't happy with the Clare collapse but in the end he stepped away..
For the first time in many years we were competitive in every game ..we comfortably stayed in division one discarding the yo-yo tag..Roscommon have conceded big scores (4-24 x2,2-29 etc) at the top level under tryhe two previous managers ..we were 1-3 to zero down v Kerry,in previous years that would have been a minimum 10 point defeat but we nearly snatched a draw..same v Mayo when 7-0 down..he set about improving the defensive structure and largely succeeded although the lack of quality in certain positions cost us later on..we went to Croke park and low and behold didn't collapse at the sight of a blue jersey and left a win behind us.
Maybe we ran out of steam later on but fought to the end v cork and were the victim of a poor ref call when looking like winners.
Regular match going supporters see that they're is a plan in place and a team that will give everything for the manager.No body will be more disappointed than Davy with how it ended but this year he'll get a look at the club championship and I believe he'll improve us even more next year and hopefully turn those narrow defeats our way.

spion7 (Roscommon) - Posts: 54 - 05/07/2023 11:19:58    2492359

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Replying To spion7:  "Firstly there was no queue to get rid of Anthony Cunningham .. people weren't happy with the Clare collapse but in the end he stepped away..
For the first time in many years we were competitive in every game ..we comfortably stayed in division one discarding the yo-yo tag..Roscommon have conceded big scores (4-24 x2,2-29 etc) at the top level under tryhe two previous managers ..we were 1-3 to zero down v Kerry,in previous years that would have been a minimum 10 point defeat but we nearly snatched a draw..same v Mayo when 7-0 down..he set about improving the defensive structure and largely succeeded although the lack of quality in certain positions cost us later on..we went to Croke park and low and behold didn't collapse at the sight of a blue jersey and left a win behind us.
Maybe we ran out of steam later on but fought to the end v cork and were the victim of a poor ref call when looking like winners.
Regular match going supporters see that they're is a plan in place and a team that will give everything for the manager.No body will be more disappointed than Davy with how it ended but this year he'll get a look at the club championship and I believe he'll improve us even more next year and hopefully turn those narrow defeats our way."
Well summed up for our curious Sligo friend whom choose to stop attending matches in the fear of getting stuck in Tulsk.

Also I might add last year was Cunninghams 4th year and it was off the back of two straight tame knock out championship exits.

Davy Burkes first year who's hand was dealt without three starters in Ronan Daly,Ultan Harney and Cathal Heneghan. Eddie Nolan unable to play in the league, Cian McKeon not starting a game until the championship and lost Tadhg O'Rourke on round 7 of the league when we were already light on midfield options.

Clear structure to the team has been seen and able to mix it up on depending on opposition we played. 3rd in Div 1 and competitive in every game exceeded all league expectations when we were odds on for relegation.

Championship was inconsistent when able to beat Mayo in Castlebar by a bit to spare, Drawing with Dublin and losing by 1 point with basically the last play of the game v Kildare and Cork but it was fine margins for example a long range free and we would have beaten Dublin topped the group and straight into the All-Ireland Quarter final. Had that happened it would have been our best league and championship season since 2001.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3701 - 05/07/2023 13:46:21    2492411

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Replying To The_analyser:  "Well summed up for our curious Sligo friend whom choose to stop attending matches in the fear of getting stuck in Tulsk.

Also I might add last year was Cunninghams 4th year and it was off the back of two straight tame knock out championship exits.

Davy Burkes first year who's hand was dealt without three starters in Ronan Daly,Ultan Harney and Cathal Heneghan. Eddie Nolan unable to play in the league, Cian McKeon not starting a game until the championship and lost Tadhg O'Rourke on round 7 of the league when we were already light on midfield options.

Clear structure to the team has been seen and able to mix it up on depending on opposition we played. 3rd in Div 1 and competitive in every game exceeded all league expectations when we were odds on for relegation.

Championship was inconsistent when able to beat Mayo in Castlebar by a bit to spare, Drawing with Dublin and losing by 1 point with basically the last play of the game v Kildare and Cork but it was fine margins for example a long range free and we would have beaten Dublin topped the group and straight into the All-Ireland Quarter final. Had that happened it would have been our best league and championship season since 2001."
Was disappointing to end up losing to 2 D2 teams especially after the highs of Castlebar and Croker.
Let's hope Davy's consistency mantra can ensure we perform in June/July next year.

That draw v Dublin was our undoing as it turned out.
The extra point would have had us straight to Qtr Final.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1273 - 05/07/2023 14:43:20    2492443

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "Was disappointing to end up losing to 2 D2 teams especially after the highs of Castlebar and Croker.
Let's hope Davy's consistency mantra can ensure we perform in June/July next year.

That draw v Dublin was our undoing as it turned out.
The extra point would have had us straight to Qtr Final."
Just a good long range free taker away from winning that match and having a far more satisfying championship.

I'd say Davy and Co will be keeping an eye on the best long range free takers in the club championship. Option B will coaching Conor Carroll into one but I'd prefer an outfield player if possible.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3701 - 05/07/2023 15:44:48    2492470

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Whos the best long range free taker in the county ??

dave1988 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1007 - 05/07/2023 20:53:26    2492538

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Replying To dave1988:  "Whos the best long range free taker in the county ??"
Eddie Lohan. Sure she on the line and all

Ros2013 (Roscommon) - Posts: 504 - 06/07/2023 13:22:53    2492652

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Replying To spion7:  "Firstly there was no queue to get rid of Anthony Cunningham .. people weren't happy with the Clare collapse but in the end he stepped away..
For the first time in many years we were competitive in every game ..we comfortably stayed in division one discarding the yo-yo tag..Roscommon have conceded big scores (4-24 x2,2-29 etc) at the top level under tryhe two previous managers ..we were 1-3 to zero down v Kerry,in previous years that would have been a minimum 10 point defeat but we nearly snatched a draw..same v Mayo when 7-0 down..he set about improving the defensive structure and largely succeeded although the lack of quality in certain positions cost us later on..we went to Croke park and low and behold didn't collapse at the sight of a blue jersey and left a win behind us.
Maybe we ran out of steam later on but fought to the end v cork and were the victim of a poor ref call when looking like winners.
Regular match going supporters see that they're is a plan in place and a team that will give everything for the manager.No body will be more disappointed than Davy with how it ended but this year he'll get a look at the club championship and I believe he'll improve us even more next year and hopefully turn those narrow defeats our way."
Excellent post. Credit is also due to members of the backroom team: Mark McHugh, Gerry McGowan, Eddie Lohan, S&C guys etc. Very happy with the progress Davy and his FULL TEAM has made this year.

letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 439 - 06/07/2023 14:53:51    2492681

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When are Club football Championships starting?
W/E 12th/13th??

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1273 - 07/07/2023 12:08:56    2492867

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Replying To spion7:  "Firstly there was no queue to get rid of Anthony Cunningham .. people weren't happy with the Clare collapse but in the end he stepped away..
For the first time in many years we were competitive in every game ..we comfortably stayed in division one discarding the yo-yo tag..Roscommon have conceded big scores (4-24 x2,2-29 etc) at the top level under tryhe two previous managers ..we were 1-3 to zero down v Kerry,in previous years that would have been a minimum 10 point defeat but we nearly snatched a draw..same v Mayo when 7-0 down..he set about improving the defensive structure and largely succeeded although the lack of quality in certain positions cost us later on..we went to Croke park and low and behold didn't collapse at the sight of a blue jersey and left a win behind us.
Maybe we ran out of steam later on but fought to the end v cork and were the victim of a poor ref call when looking like winners.
Regular match going supporters see that they're is a plan in place and a team that will give everything for the manager.No body will be more disappointed than Davy with how it ended but this year he'll get a look at the club championship and I believe he'll improve us even more next year and hopefully turn those narrow defeats our way."
Good honest reply. What will be regarded as progress for next year. A Connacht title ? A title is surely worth more than an appearance in the last 8 ?

eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1568 - 07/07/2023 12:23:28    2492869

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Replying To eoinog:  "Good honest reply. What will be regarded as progress for next year. A Connacht title ? A title is surely worth more than an appearance in the last 8 ?"
Staying in division one again and last 8 appearance and be competitive in it would be great. Connacht title means dam all right now imo.

dave1988 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1007 - 07/07/2023 12:29:38    2492873

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Replying To dave1988:  "Staying in division one again and last 8 appearance and be competitive in it would be great. Connacht title means dam all right now imo."
A Connacht medal is still treasured in my opinion. What do you get if you make the last 8 or indeed the last 4.... Nothing. You will always have the medal. Dublin or Kerry would have no interest in a provential medal but every other county in those province's would love one.

eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1568 - 07/07/2023 12:41:34    2492876

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Replying To eoinog:  "A Connacht medal is still treasured in my opinion. What do you get if you make the last 8 or indeed the last 4.... Nothing. You will always have the medal. Dublin or Kerry would have no interest in a provential medal but every other county in those province's would love one."
Yet Dublin and Kerry keep winning their Provinces, albeit their games are mainly training spins.
We'd probably be looking at not concentrating on Connacht but if we got a softy draw with Mayo and Galway meeting firstly we might have a crack at the Final.
But unlike this year where Mayo on Easter Sunday seemed the only show in town.
Late June/July is what it's all about now.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1273 - 07/07/2023 13:23:44    2492904

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Replying To dave1988:  "Staying in division one again and last 8 appearance and be competitive in it would be great. Connacht title means dam all right now imo."
Winning Connacht makes you first seed, and 3 of the 1st seeds all topped their groups and reached the AI semi final this year. If it wasn't for Galways injury issues it probably would be 4 from 4.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3305 - 07/07/2023 13:31:02    2492913

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Replying To dave1988:  "Staying in division one again and last 8 appearance and be competitive in it would be great. Connacht title means dam all right now imo."
Everyone of the players this year would have loved another Connacht medal. You're only likely to get 1 or 2 if you are doing well playing for Roscommon.

Ros2013 (Roscommon) - Posts: 504 - 07/07/2023 13:31:44    2492915

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Replying To Ros2013:  "Everyone of the players this year would have loved another Connacht medal. You're only likely to get 1 or 2 if you are doing well playing for Roscommon."
Yes. A Connacht medal still counts for a lot in Roscommon and rightly so. There was very little between Galway, Mayo and Roscommon this year. Each beat and lost to one of the other. If Comer had gone off injured at half time in Hyde park rather than Salthill, we'd likely be provincial champions. We're disappointed but definitely hopeful for year. Somebody here posted that we need four new defenders. I hope not. We need all players fit and available next season and see where Davy Burke can take this team. Needs to be better than this year but I think it will be.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2129 - 07/07/2023 15:19:26    2492957

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Replying To endgame:  "Yes. A Connacht medal still counts for a lot in Roscommon and rightly so. There was very little between Galway, Mayo and Roscommon this year. Each beat and lost to one of the other. If Comer had gone off injured at half time in Hyde park rather than Salthill, we'd likely be provincial champions. We're disappointed but definitely hopeful for year. Somebody here posted that we need four new defenders. I hope not. We need all players fit and available next season and see where Davy Burke can take this team. Needs to be better than this year but I think it will be."
Eoinog,a my lot will depend on the draw next year..Galway and mayo in London &New York respectively..Roscommon are missing Enda for the first game after red card v cork so could we win in Galway without him?..maybe ..I actually think if we have nearly everyone fit we're in a better place than mayo who are reeling after this years setbacks ..
I'd take a Connacht any year because of the medal and the first seed prize..saying it's meaningless doesn't wash with me.
Ultimately we may look back on this year where we had a possible run of cork,Derry and Monaghan to make a final as a massive missed opportunity which won't come around again in a hurry.

spion7 (Roscommon) - Posts: 54 - 07/07/2023 21:27:55    2493025

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Replying To endgame:  "Yes. A Connacht medal still counts for a lot in Roscommon and rightly so. There was very little between Galway, Mayo and Roscommon this year. Each beat and lost to one of the other. If Comer had gone off injured at half time in Hyde park rather than Salthill, we'd likely be provincial champions. We're disappointed but definitely hopeful for year. Somebody here posted that we need four new defenders. I hope not. We need all players fit and available next season and see where Davy Burke can take this team. Needs to be better than this year but I think it will be."
Agree, Connaught title is good achievement, we have a mature team now that have been together for a while, time for team to take next step and make a quarter final, we are not a top 8 team yet IMO

roscommon1944 (Roscommon) - Posts: 275 - 07/07/2023 22:50:22    2493034

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Replying To spion7:  "Eoinog,a my lot will depend on the draw next year..Galway and mayo in London &New York respectively..Roscommon are missing Enda for the first game after red card v cork so could we win in Galway without him?..maybe ..I actually think if we have nearly everyone fit we're in a better place than mayo who are reeling after this years setbacks ..
I'd take a Connacht any year because of the medal and the first seed prize..saying it's meaningless doesn't wash with me.
Ultimately we may look back on this year where we had a possible run of cork,Derry and Monaghan to make a final as a massive missed opportunity which won't come around again in a hurry."
Had we overcome Cork I have might doubts if we'd be able to topple a rested Derry and us our 3rd game in three weeks. GAA HQ as stubborn as hell, they probably won't change that scheduling next year so our best chance of likely winning All Ireland Quarter final next year is going into it as group winners.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3701 - 07/07/2023 23:48:00    2493036

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Replying To spion7:  "Eoinog,a my lot will depend on the draw next year..Galway and mayo in London &New York respectively..Roscommon are missing Enda for the first game after red card v cork so could we win in Galway without him?..maybe ..I actually think if we have nearly everyone fit we're in a better place than mayo who are reeling after this years setbacks ..
I'd take a Connacht any year because of the medal and the first seed prize..saying it's meaningless doesn't wash with me.
Ultimately we may look back on this year where we had a possible run of cork,Derry and Monaghan to make a final as a massive missed opportunity which won't come around again in a hurry."
Absolutely agree that we had a great potential draw to get to an All Ireland Final this year but we just weren't good enough. The same as Mayo weren't good enough last Sunday and Galway weren't good enough the Sunday before. Where stands all the talk now of the League. Mayo League champions three months ago but beaten out the gate in the business end of the championship by a team who had played in Division two. Next year is a big year for this Roscommon team. Some of the players who have been great servants to Roscommon nearing the end of their careers like Niall Daly, Donie Smith and Ciaran Murtagh. Davy Burke with a full pre season and season with this team and hopefully Ultan Harney back and others from the U20 team of two years ago breaking through. Roscommon need a big Summer next Summer. They need to do it when it matters and not be losing in injury time by a point to the likes of Kildare and Cork. We think we're good enough but we haven't been doing it. Out in the last 12 this year and last by a single point to very ordinary opposition. That needs to change next year if we're good enough.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2129 - 08/07/2023 04:23:14    2493052

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Replying To spion7:  "Eoinog,a my lot will depend on the draw next year..Galway and mayo in London &New York respectively..Roscommon are missing Enda for the first game after red card v cork so could we win in Galway without him?..maybe ..I actually think if we have nearly everyone fit we're in a better place than mayo who are reeling after this years setbacks ..
I'd take a Connacht any year because of the medal and the first seed prize..saying it's meaningless doesn't wash with me.
Ultimately we may look back on this year where we had a possible run of cork,Derry and Monaghan to make a final as a massive missed opportunity which won't come around again in a hurry."
Enda seemed to me to push back hard on the Cork player and possibly did not deserve a red card. (Maybe I am wrong) Even a comment/report in the Cork Examiner website after the match stated that the Cork player deserved an Oscar. The crowds reaction perhaps influenced the referee as a stoppage at that critical time suited Cork. The sending off should have been appealed.
Either way, is it not a new competition next year, and will Enda definitely miss the next championship game?
Nothing against the Cork supporters. They were just supporting their team and I found them very friendly.

letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 439 - 08/07/2023 07:35:41    2493058

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