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An interesting article on the 42 today about kickouts. It highlights exactly what damage we self inflicted when we lost the 2021 Connacht final, we got hammered on our own kickout.

GDL (Galway) - Posts: 846 - 21/02/2022 15:09:07    2401631

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Replying To GDL:  "An interesting article on the 42 today about kickouts. It highlights exactly what damage we self inflicted when we lost the 2021 Connacht final, we got hammered on our own kickout."
Yeah, saw that alright. We've been saying that on the terraces for a long time! Our kickout strategy is starting to shape up now though and Conor Flaherty is absolutely the man, imo. This lad is a superb all rounder. He's learning by the day with Galway. As for kickout targets, warhorse midfielders are thin on the ground in Galway. Yes, Conroy and Paul Kelly, Tierney and others can fetch but still some question marks for me. Hard to see us dominating an aerial battle but we'll see - they're working hard. Other kickout target options on wings are improving too.

togoutlads (Galway) - Posts: 1077 - 21/02/2022 19:28:12    2401723

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I don't think we are kicking it long much because we don't really have any real ball winning midfielders. Cooke is abroad. McLaughlin will probably develop into one but is still very young and will likely be with the U-20's again for their campaign. Tierney and Paul Kelly are probably not natural midfielders who go up and fetch kickouts. Conroy can occasionally do it but he's unlikely to be playing 70 minutes in midfield these days. Not sure Galway have the targets around the middle to just launch it long and hope someone wins it.

Marooned (Galway) - Posts: 2397 - 22/02/2022 14:08:32    2401883

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Replying To Marooned:  "I don't think we are kicking it long much because we don't really have any real ball winning midfielders. Cooke is abroad. McLaughlin will probably develop into one but is still very young and will likely be with the U-20's again for their campaign. Tierney and Paul Kelly are probably not natural midfielders who go up and fetch kickouts. Conroy can occasionally do it but he's unlikely to be playing 70 minutes in midfield these days. Not sure Galway have the targets around the middle to just launch it long and hope someone wins it."
Really depends on your opposition.

Tierney/Conroy are excellent fielders and are big men but they are not monsters so if up against AOS or someone similar they won't win it but if isolated against similar sized men they will do well.

All about movement and creating mis matches. At the very least you keep it away from their out an out fielder. Tilt the odds in your favour.

Easy said but not always easy to implement.

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1928 - 22/02/2022 14:59:06    2401899

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Replying To Mayonman:  "Really depends on your opposition.

Tierney/Conroy are excellent fielders and are big men but they are not monsters so if up against AOS or someone similar they won't win it but if isolated against similar sized men they will do well.

All about movement and creating mis matches. At the very least you keep it away from their out an out fielder. Tilt the odds in your favour.

Easy said but not always easy to implement."
i think patrick kelly is more suited to a midfield role the playing in the forwards.,
big strong lad and there is football in him..
damien comer could always drift in and out to midfield if needed.

gbay (Galway) - Posts: 274 - 22/02/2022 15:13:17    2401906

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Replying To smallfrank:  "Oh it won't happen. But their are as many reasons it can be done.
The new chairman said he would be pushing the dual element and eliminating any bias. How many are going to travel down to Cork so see a Galway team play a Cork team in the same stadium 2 Saturdays in a row, very few I would say.

I know of the family of an Offaly player that stayed in Salthill Saturday, same issue really.
Whatever logistical issues would be minor, you piggyback on the logistical plans made by the hurlers.
Hotels, this isn't Letterkenny or Mullingar, it's the county with probably the most hotels in Ireland, our sponsor owns one of them.

Again, your points are valid and it is wont happen, doesn't mean it shouldn't. We need to up it big time marketing the games and getting people out supporting the teams."
If you want to 'get people out supporting the teams', playing lots of games in January/February, and very few in July/August/September, mightn't prove to be the wisest move.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4259 - 22/02/2022 17:33:26    2401959

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Replying To togoutlads:  "Yeah, saw that alright. We've been saying that on the terraces for a long time! Our kickout strategy is starting to shape up now though and Conor Flaherty is absolutely the man, imo. This lad is a superb all rounder. He's learning by the day with Galway. As for kickout targets, warhorse midfielders are thin on the ground in Galway. Yes, Conroy and Paul Kelly, Tierney and others can fetch but still some question marks for me. Hard to see us dominating an aerial battle but we'll see - they're working hard. Other kickout target options on wings are improving too."
I dont know if anyone heard James Horans interview afterr the Dublin match
It was a very interesting to hear his views
But he mentioned winning the battle for ball on the ground or the dirty ball
This is becoming a vital area and one where we have struggled over the years
What with turnovers etc the game isnt all about high feilders
There are signs we have improved this year buts it only Feb yet
Mayo are building a good panel again with new players
Both Galway and Mayo have young players now wearing the county jersey

rhudson (Galway) - Posts: 1478 - 22/02/2022 19:55:55    2401982

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Hello Galway.can anyone tell me is Michael Daly still part of Galway panel and any news on Eoin Kerin?I had good time for Kerin as a footballer.Is Ian Burke still on panel or Ciaran Brannigan.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3976 - 22/02/2022 21:55:43    2401997

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Hello Galway.can anyone tell me is Michael Daly still part of Galway panel and any news on Eoin Kerin?I had good time for Kerin as a footballer.Is Ian Burke still on panel or Ciaran Brannigan."
No no no but yes Ciaran Brannigan is... 4th choice keeper from Mullagh football club

Belclare (Galway) - Posts: 904 - 23/02/2022 10:18:59    2402013

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Replying To Belclare:  "No no no but yes Ciaran Brannigan is... 4th choice keeper from Mullagh football club"
Think it is Ciaran Duggan being referenced after his virtuoso performance against Mayo in 2018.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1992 - 23/02/2022 11:01:33    2402024

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Replying To rhudson:  "I dont know if anyone heard James Horans interview afterr the Dublin match
It was a very interesting to hear his views
But he mentioned winning the battle for ball on the ground or the dirty ball
This is becoming a vital area and one where we have struggled over the years
What with turnovers etc the game isnt all about high feilders
There are signs we have improved this year buts it only Feb yet
Mayo are building a good panel again with new players
Both Galway and Mayo have young players now wearing the county jersey"
It might be only Feb but there has been a huge amount of dirty ball with the weather and we have done very well in this regard. Even in the Sigerson our lads were very sharp and showed huge work rate in that regard. Also don't forget the Mayo game is just over 8 weeks away.

Most teams now going for a mobile midfield. Will be very interesting.

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1928 - 23/02/2022 11:16:17    2402028

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Replying To kiloughter:  "Think it is Ciaran Duggan being referenced after his virtuoso performance against Mayo in 2018."
Sorry I thought it was Eamonn Brannigan!

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 23/02/2022 13:46:11    2402070

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Replying To Belclare:  "No no no but yes Ciaran Brannigan is... 4th choice keeper from Mullagh football club"
Thanks Belclare. Pity bout Kerin and Daly.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3976 - 23/02/2022 14:01:00    2402076

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Replying To togoutlads:  "Yeah, saw that alright. We've been saying that on the terraces for a long time! Our kickout strategy is starting to shape up now though and Conor Flaherty is absolutely the man, imo. This lad is a superb all rounder. He's learning by the day with Galway. As for kickout targets, warhorse midfielders are thin on the ground in Galway. Yes, Conroy and Paul Kelly, Tierney and others can fetch but still some question marks for me. Hard to see us dominating an aerial battle but we'll see - they're working hard. Other kickout target options on wings are improving too."
The same has been said about Conor Gleeson, Bernard Power, Ruairi Lavelle et al. down through the years

FallenStar (Galway) - Posts: 428 - 23/02/2022 14:11:46    2402081

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Replying To FallenStar:  "The same has been said about Conor Gleeson, Bernard Power, Ruairi Lavelle et al. down through the years"
I haven't see anything in 2022 from Flaherty different.
When under pressure in the dome, he went long and we lost the ball. In the Sigerson final, NUIG squeezed up and he went long, also badly miscued a short one which led to a point.

Not writing him off but to suggest there has been some kind of transformation on kick outs is wrong

smallfrank (Galway) - Posts: 534 - 23/02/2022 18:41:42    2402138

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I've been waiting for months for two two things to happen, National Lottery to be won and Lee from Spiddal who's selected in the forwards of Galway footballers in every match to get a single score. Well the Lotto was won but ?????

FieldsMaster (Galway) - Posts: 17 - 24/02/2022 08:52:21    2402155

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Replying To FieldsMaster:  "I've been waiting for months for two two things to happen, National Lottery to be won and Lee from Spiddal who's selected in the forwards of Galway footballers in every match to get a single score. Well the Lotto was won but ?????"
He's not there to score. He's an absolute workhorse, covers serious ground in games and is there as a transition from defence to attack. If you want to pick pads out who contribute very little to the Galway team I'd have a look at Finnerty and Cullhane.

Donaldtrump (Galway) - Posts: 252 - 24/02/2022 09:26:14    2402156

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Replying To smallfrank:  "I haven't see anything in 2022 from Flaherty different.
When under pressure in the dome, he went long and we lost the ball. In the Sigerson final, NUIG squeezed up and he went long, also badly miscued a short one which led to a point.

Not writing him off but to suggest there has been some kind of transformation on kick outs is wrong"
The issue here is people take slights against certain players as their clubman isn't getting picked, Ruairi, Manus, Bernie, Thomas Dolan, John Egan, Ronan O'Beolain, Adrian Faherty, Brian O'Donoghue etc, Personally I think Conor Flaherty is doing well. People want a fully formed kicking machine from a 21 year old. I can remember Cluxton, Durcan, Morgan, Clarke, Henelley having meltdowns over the years and the Patton lad from Donegal who has a phenomenal kickout in the last few weeks getting caught in possession in the last minute against Mayo and conceding a free that cost them the game and last weekend letting in a soft goal from a mishit Clifford shot but you won't see him been cut or dropped. Most counties that have been somewhat successful appear to have a goalkeeper in place for 8 to 10 years. We need to back the players and let them develop. Swapping and changing hasn't worked.

GDL (Galway) - Posts: 846 - 24/02/2022 10:10:44    2402164

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Replying To Donaldtrump:  "He's not there to score. He's an absolute workhorse, covers serious ground in games and is there as a transition from defence to attack. If you want to pick pads out who contribute very little to the Galway team I'd have a look at Finnerty and Cullhane."
Totally agree O'Laoi has been very good. People don't get it, every team needs this type of player. They get the ball, transition it and it give it to the shooters, since he has come into the team we now don't see Shane Walsh back in our own 14 looking for ball.

GDL (Galway) - Posts: 846 - 24/02/2022 10:16:58    2402165

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Replying To GDL:  "The issue here is people take slights against certain players as their clubman isn't getting picked, Ruairi, Manus, Bernie, Thomas Dolan, John Egan, Ronan O'Beolain, Adrian Faherty, Brian O'Donoghue etc, Personally I think Conor Flaherty is doing well. People want a fully formed kicking machine from a 21 year old. I can remember Cluxton, Durcan, Morgan, Clarke, Henelley having meltdowns over the years and the Patton lad from Donegal who has a phenomenal kickout in the last few weeks getting caught in possession in the last minute against Mayo and conceding a free that cost them the game and last weekend letting in a soft goal from a mishit Clifford shot but you won't see him been cut or dropped. Most counties that have been somewhat successful appear to have a goalkeeper in place for 8 to 10 years. We need to back the players and let them develop. Swapping and changing hasn't worked."
Exactly, he's not "absolutely the man" as someone said above, nor is he a more of the same or a problem as others mentioned.
He's a young goalkeeper who has done well so far and needs plenty game time to develop. He has shown a lot of promise and I'm hopeful he'll develop into our long term number 1.
Keepers need a lot of experience, they need to be exposed to different situations and scenarios. They will make mistakes. It's how they develop from these that's important. This will only come through getting time and plenty match practice.
There isn't a goalkeeper in the country who's the finished article. Of those considered the best, they all still had plenty to learn when they were 21.
He seems to have a great attitude and is obviously a talented athlete, with his hurling pedigree.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2410 - 24/02/2022 10:42:59    2402173

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