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Replying To Viking66:  "Double-header would suit me. I'd love to see both games."
Viking, You are going to Páirc Uí Chaoimh (Kerry permitting), it has been written.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 1874 - 07/06/2022 13:01:55    2422987

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Replying To clare_sparrow:  "gaylick football is an inferior sport, has a different set of fans and should be kept as seperate as connacht rugby is from hurling. anyway thankfully for hurling in galway the county is more or less split in 2 between the 2 sports as we all know."
Spare us the hurling vs football nonsense and the childish spelling.
I've played football and hurling. I support our teams and attend games in both codes. There are plenty more who do the same.
This small-minded stuff does no one any favours.
Some people people prefer hurling and have no time for football, and vice versa. That's fine, but there's no place for pettiness or ignorance towards either code.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 1493 - 07/06/2022 13:09:30    2422996

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Replying To clare_sparrow:  "Galway didnt lose the Leinster final in the full-back line. It was lost in the middle third. The full-back line was probably the most solid line in the Galway team on Saturday. Grealish is a 100% nailed on starter for Galway right now.

This may sound harsh on Henry but I would fault him here. There were 3 or 4 below par performances on Saturday. Concannon who is usually on fire didnt look himself at all. and Monaghan who was playing well up to now wasnt consistent enough. Joseph Cooney was going fine until he got the yellow (which was harsh) and didnt touch a ball after it. If Limerick had 3 or 4 below par performances they would also struggle. This shouldnt happen, I would put it down to management for that many poor performances. The thing is though it isnt the first time this has been the issue with Galway over the years."
Nothing solid about a Corner back who fouls his man everytime the ball comes in. Ok he kept Cody quiet but that's only because he kept fouling him and giving handy frees to Reid. D.Burke kept the Full Back line solid.
The problem was they went for goals with arrogance too early in the game. 4 chances in the 1st 8mins when points were the better option. B Concannon x2, J Cooney, C Whelan, all we had to do was take the points and the goals will come later. T Monaghan missed a score too.
Once Concannon, Cooney, Monaghan missed those chances their heads had dropped and confidence gone.
This is not Henry's fault, its the individuals poor decision making.

katser (Galway) - Posts: 1674 - 07/06/2022 13:26:14    2423011

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Replying To clare_sparrow:  "Galway didnt lose the Leinster final in the full-back line. It was lost in the middle third. The full-back line was probably the most solid line in the Galway team on Saturday. Grealish is a 100% nailed on starter for Galway right now.

This may sound harsh on Henry but I would fault him here. There were 3 or 4 below par performances on Saturday. Concannon who is usually on fire didnt look himself at all. and Monaghan who was playing well up to now wasnt consistent enough. Joseph Cooney was going fine until he got the yellow (which was harsh) and didnt touch a ball after it. If Limerick had 3 or 4 below par performances they would also struggle. This shouldnt happen, I would put it down to management for that many poor performances. The thing is though it isnt the first time this has been the issue with Galway over the years."
Sparrow you are being very harsh on Henry.We all know a lot of the team didn't perform on Saturday,he is hardly the cause of this.It's the mental toughness we need to install in the players that when things are going wrong you dig in don't panic and find that extra percentage needed to turn the game around.We are quick to blame managers for these downfalls,we all know Henry needs time not 6 months for this to happen.We got a kick up the ass Saturday,we have a chance to correct that,Cork are no world beaters,we will know where we are after them.

Waveitwide (Galway) - Posts: 137 - 07/06/2022 13:35:50    2423021

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Poor Display as already been said here.

The fact we were still at a single score until time added on shows that KK were no great shakes either.

But showed we lack a marquee forward, other than Whelan who I thought put it up to KK.I think he was worth at least 4 fouls that werent given to him.

What has happened to the promising minors that coming through from 2019 Sean McDonagh in particular.

pauliec (Galway) - Posts: 5 - 07/06/2022 13:51:28    2423030

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I see football draw yesterday, when is hurling on?

CillTormoir (Galway) - Posts: 400 - 07/06/2022 15:46:42    2423109

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Replying To CillTormoir:  "I see football draw yesterday, when is hurling on?"
its already made..if both cork and wexford win there preliminaries qf then its cork v galway.,wexford v clare..
more then likely both games on in turles or limerick are possible a double header in croke park in two
weeks time.

gbay (Galway) - Posts: 224 - 07/06/2022 17:05:03    2423149

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Replying To katser:  "Nothing solid about a Corner back who fouls his man everytime the ball comes in. Ok he kept Cody quiet but that's only because he kept fouling him and giving handy frees to Reid. D.Burke kept the Full Back line solid.
The problem was they went for goals with arrogance too early in the game. 4 chances in the 1st 8mins when points were the better option. B Concannon x2, J Cooney, C Whelan, all we had to do was take the points and the goals will come later. T Monaghan missed a score too.
Once Concannon, Cooney, Monaghan missed those chances their heads had dropped and confidence gone.
This is not Henry's fault, its the individuals poor decision making."
Tom Monaghan has been impressive in the championship but he was very poor in the Leinster Final.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 1773 - 07/06/2022 17:56:12    2423160

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Replying To katser:  "Nothing solid about a Corner back who fouls his man everytime the ball comes in. Ok he kept Cody quiet but that's only because he kept fouling him and giving handy frees to Reid. D.Burke kept the Full Back line solid.
The problem was they went for goals with arrogance too early in the game. 4 chances in the 1st 8mins when points were the better option. B Concannon x2, J Cooney, C Whelan, all we had to do was take the points and the goals will come later. T Monaghan missed a score too.
Once Concannon, Cooney, Monaghan missed those chances their heads had dropped and confidence gone.
This is not Henry's fault, its the individuals poor decision making."
It was an almost identical game to the Dublin game of last year going for goals too early missing them and then panicking hitting stupid wides and giving TJ easy frees

minor77 (Galway) - Posts: 135 - 07/06/2022 20:16:15    2423204

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Replying To gbay:  "its already made..if both cork and wexford win there preliminaries qf then its cork v galway.,wexford v clare..
more then likely both games on in turles or limerick are possible a double header in croke park in two
weeks time."
Limerick is closed for works

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 5559 - 08/06/2022 07:17:03    2423239

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Replying To gbay:  "its already made..if both cork and wexford win there preliminaries qf then its cork v galway.,wexford v clare..
more then likely both games on in turles or limerick are possible a double header in croke park in two
weeks time."
sorry i meant club hurling championship draw. strange both werent on same night? why is it dragged out, not like we are looking certain dates, just announce the groups.

CillTormoir (Galway) - Posts: 400 - 08/06/2022 09:11:59    2423257

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Replying To gbay:  "what has he done the last two games.!!
i was at both and he was very poor..
do you think he would of ben left on the field of cody was on the side line!!
him and a few more would of ben takin off 5 mins into the second half without question..

time for changes..."
Shure cody was on the sideline

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 2698 - 08/06/2022 15:23:28    2423388

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Replying To Waveitwide:  "Sparrow you are being very harsh on Henry.We all know a lot of the team didn't perform on Saturday,he is hardly the cause of this.It's the mental toughness we need to install in the players that when things are going wrong you dig in don't panic and find that extra percentage needed to turn the game around.We are quick to blame managers for these downfalls,we all know Henry needs time not 6 months for this to happen.We got a kick up the ass Saturday,we have a chance to correct that,Cork are no world beaters,we will know where we are after them."
We were tactically inept in the second half though, to only return 0-8 with the benefit of the breeze shows that the second half game plan of lumping the ball into an outmatched (in numerical terms) full back line was just not effective.

This was apparent 10 minutes into the second half yet we never varied our approach.

The concern would be that if we are trying a similar approach against Cork and it's not working, will the will be there to change it? If it wasn't there on saturday last, it seems unlikely it will be there on saturday week.

For me, if we approach the game with only 5 forwards in a 7/5 split, gifting Cork a short puckout option all day (they will certainly use it) and also gifting Coleman the freedom to be a spare defender, we are playing right into their hands and we can't hope to win the game, for all that Cork aren't really up to much.

We need to dictate the terms, play with 6 up so we force them to puck the ball long and compete for it.

But I'm not sure this is going to happen.

Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 669 - 09/06/2022 07:09:24    2423483

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Replying To Stool Pigeon:  "We were tactically inept in the second half though, to only return 0-8 with the benefit of the breeze shows that the second half game plan of lumping the ball into an outmatched (in numerical terms) full back line was just not effective.

This was apparent 10 minutes into the second half yet we never varied our approach.

The concern would be that if we are trying a similar approach against Cork and it's not working, will the will be there to change it? If it wasn't there on saturday last, it seems unlikely it will be there on saturday week.

For me, if we approach the game with only 5 forwards in a 7/5 split, gifting Cork a short puckout option all day (they will certainly use it) and also gifting Coleman the freedom to be a spare defender, we are playing right into their hands and we can't hope to win the game, for all that Cork aren't really up to much.

We need to dictate the terms, play with 6 up so we force them to puck the ball long and compete for it.

But I'm not sure this is going to happen."
Problem you will have playing 1 on 1 in the back 8 with a spare man is that you will have to match the Cork forwards for pace. Whoever they use as their spare man at the back, and they will, will be good at playing balls in front of or behind their forwards to run on to even with only 5 up top. Unless you use the spare man up front and go for a 7 man press on their puckouts. But that could cause its own problems if only 1 lad misses a tackle. They will be running forward off the shoulder with a spare man as someone will have to leave his man to go to the lad who broke the tackle. Or if everyone sticks to their own men you will concede goals like the Fitzgibbon goal against Tipp when he ran the length of the pitch unopposed and stuck it in the net.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 5559 - 09/06/2022 10:10:04    2423517

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Replying To Viking66:  "Problem you will have playing 1 on 1 in the back 8 with a spare man is that you will have to match the Cork forwards for pace. Whoever they use as their spare man at the back, and they will, will be good at playing balls in front of or behind their forwards to run on to even with only 5 up top. Unless you use the spare man up front and go for a 7 man press on their puckouts. But that could cause its own problems if only 1 lad misses a tackle. They will be running forward off the shoulder with a spare man as someone will have to leave his man to go to the lad who broke the tackle. Or if everyone sticks to their own men you will concede goals like the Fitzgibbon goal against Tipp when he ran the length of the pitch unopposed and stuck it in the net."
If we give them a spare defender (Coleman) and give them a short puckout option, they will kill us because they will be able to keep possession off their own puckout and they won't have to withdraw a player.

All the pace in the world only matters if you can secure the ball in the first place and if we make it a contest on every puckout it forces Cork into areas they don't want to be in.

If they want to play with 7 back, giving us a spare defender as a result, then all the better. I don't really see them doing this though.

Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 669 - 09/06/2022 10:41:37    2423534

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Replying To CillTormoir:  "I see football draw yesterday, when is hurling on?"
Hurling club draw on Monday 8pm in loughrea hotel.

Waveitwide (Galway) - Posts: 137 - 09/06/2022 14:12:58    2423598

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Replying To Stool Pigeon:  "If we give them a spare defender (Coleman) and give them a short puckout option, they will kill us because they will be able to keep possession off their own puckout and they won't have to withdraw a player.

All the pace in the world only matters if you can secure the ball in the first place and if we make it a contest on every puckout it forces Cork into areas they don't want to be in.

If they want to play with 7 back, giving us a spare defender as a result, then all the better. I don't really see them doing this though."
They won't play with a permanent sweeper but they do pull lads back on their own puckouts.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 5559 - 09/06/2022 14:24:21    2423601

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brisbane (Galway) - Posts: 618 - 09/06/2022 19:38:46    2423689

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Replying To Viking66:  "They won't play with a permanent sweeper but they do pull lads back on their own puckouts."
They will if our setup gifts them one

Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 669 - 10/06/2022 11:42:02    2423743

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Replying To endgame:  "Where's the shock. We've seen it all before. Galway senior hurlers usually flop when it matters. Henry hasn't changed that. Where do all the minors go. Don't even make it to U20 never mind senior.Poor match yesterday. Very poor Galway performance. Currently Leinster does not deserve a direct place for their champions in the All Ireland semi final and the likes of Waterford already gone out of the championship."
What goes around comes around, 'mister usually flop'. How did you like that 'endgame' endgame!!!!

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 2698 - 12/06/2022 12:04:09    2424158

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