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Replying To katser:  "Can't believe it one man TJ Reid the difference again with frees! J.Grealish did nothing but foul all evening. GMac, J Cooney B Concannon hardly touched the ball!!"
Much as I dislike naming players, i have to agree and the list of no shows was longer than that. Backs played well generally (Daithi unreal) but they had lots of cover funneling back Probably you are a bit harsh on Grealish who kept Cody scoreless. Key issue was poor discipline.. ..the amount of frees given away was dreadful/clueless. Missed Joe's leadership,
I'm not a fan of Galways packed defense as it means Galway forwards have to overcome 2 on 1 odds at all times. Only Whelan is able to do that currently and while this continues semi/quarter final is as far as this team will get.

SouthsideRossie (Roscommon) - Posts: 77 - 04/06/2022 21:59:28    2422271

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Where do Galway go from here? Is it the usual, next game we ll be better stuff that Galway regularly engage in. They are like the Mayo footballers abit. Shocking failures are never rock bottom,never seem to warrant a root and branch look at mentality or style. It's always just 'play away', relying on ability and hoping for the best. Its hard to look at players perform so badly. Missing frees straight infront of the post.
Johnny Coen and Jack Grealish gave away about 8 frees between them. Cooney folded with the late frees. God it was so bad. Conor Whelan and Daithi Burke,the only 2 that played decent and Mannion,he was good.

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1697 - 05/06/2022 08:06:38    2422281

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It always baffles me why people think Galway are up there as potential all Ireland champions every year they have won 1 senior title in 34 years as for yesterday match it definitely was worse match for many a year hurling is a long puck free taking competition nowadays,,

Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 620 - 05/06/2022 08:22:41    2422282

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Where do Galway go from here? Is it the usual, next game we ll be better stuff that Galway regularly engage in. They are like the Mayo footballers abit. Shocking failures are never rock bottom,never seem to warrant a root and branch look at mentality or style. It's always just 'play away', relying on ability and hoping for the best. Its hard to look at players perform so badly. Missing frees straight infront of the post.
Johnny Coen and Jack Grealish gave away about 8 frees between them. Cooney folded with the late frees. God it was so bad. Conor Whelan and Daithi Burke,the only 2 that played decent and Mannion,he was good."
Where's the shock. We've seen it all before. Galway senior hurlers usually flop when it matters. Henry hasn't changed that. Where do all the minors go. Don't even make it to U20 never mind senior.Poor match yesterday. Very poor Galway performance. Currently Leinster does not deserve a direct place for their champions in the All Ireland semi final and the likes of Waterford already gone out of the championship.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 1773 - 05/06/2022 09:40:34    2422295

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Replying To Kickitout:  "It always baffles me why people think Galway are up there as potential all Ireland champions every year they have won 1 senior title in 34 years as for yesterday match it definitely was worse match for many a year hurling is a long puck free taking competition nowadays,,"
Only because galway kept fouling couldn't understand it at all pushing in the back of Lawlor by Conor Whealen school boy stuff.

Tiger1 (Wexford) - Posts: 140 - 05/06/2022 09:46:14    2422296

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Replying To Kickitout:  "It always baffles me why people think Galway are up there as potential all Ireland champions every year they have won 1 senior title in 34 years as for yesterday match it definitely was worse match for many a year hurling is a long puck free taking competition nowadays,,"
They're generally favourites or joint favs for leinster which puts them within touching distance of a final.
For me galway have had players that are hanging around the panel for years and have never nailed down a starting position. A few are gone at this stage but there was a few playing yesterday. There's something wrong in Galway that they can't bring through more players. Kk only had 6 of their 2019 team playing and by my calculations Galway had 9/10 of their 2017/2018 team playing and if the likes of Joe and glynn were around they'd be playing as well. It has cost Tipp badly not bringing through players and I think the same has happened Galway. Hardly any make it through. Galway seem to have very little to come off the bench yet have always strong underage teams. Morrissey and Grealish were probably brought in more as a necessity than anything else and they are two fine players who have developed quickly once given the chance. The likes of Glennon, N. Burke, Flynn and Cooney have had plenty of chances over the years but because of that surely some players have slipped through the net.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 3587 - 05/06/2022 09:49:42    2422299

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Well katser another prediction you got very wrong..I'd pardon 4 players,daithi burke,comor whelan and maybe both mannions,the rest would want to have a long look at themselves in the mirror..no leadership,huge problem..also very lucky to finish with 15 on field..are you going to call out your own players for some of the stuff they did yesterday..Flynn 2 high challanges that should have been red,the deliberate stamp that wasn't punished by fahy,also a lot of loose hands interfering with faceguards..next day out will be interesting as I think it's the winners of cork/Antrim for ye..I feel sorry for Henry dealing with that..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 1741 - 05/06/2022 10:05:24    2422305

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Where do Galway go from here? Is it the usual, next game we ll be better stuff that Galway regularly engage in. They are like the Mayo footballers abit. Shocking failures are never rock bottom,never seem to warrant a root and branch look at mentality or style. It's always just 'play away', relying on ability and hoping for the best. Its hard to look at players perform so badly. Missing frees straight infront of the post.
Johnny Coen and Jack Grealish gave away about 8 frees between them. Cooney folded with the late frees. God it was so bad. Conor Whelan and Daithi Burke,the only 2 that played decent and Mannion,he was good."
Ara "next game we'll be better"! Only joking - I notice a lot of posters from other counties really enjoy it when Galway hurlers especially (but Galway footballers also at other times) don't perform so they can peddle their usual "Galway chokers" cliché but in fairness the Galway team certainly fuelled that by yesterday's no show. I thought the whole atmosphere was very flat and even Henry looked very down before the game so I was was wary about that from the outset. Not sure was it the cloudy weather but the game itself was dull and the performance was a stop / start dogfight not helped by a whistle happy referee. Apart from the soft frees, I thought the Galway backs played well overall and Daithí was back close to his best (hope his ankle is ok) and Whelo is always a lone warrior like Cúchulainn without any or little help up front. Cody continues to be classless with his former loyal servant Henry (the most successful hurler ever) which makes him look very childish. Cork will be favourites the next day but "you never know what Galway may turn up" to use another cliché peddled about Galway hurlers!

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 2761 - 05/06/2022 10:22:21    2422308

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "Well katser another prediction you got very wrong..I'd pardon 4 players,daithi burke,comor whelan and maybe both mannions,the rest would want to have a long look at themselves in the mirror..no leadership,huge problem..also very lucky to finish with 15 on field..are you going to call out your own players for some of the stuff they did yesterday..Flynn 2 high challanges that should have been red,the deliberate stamp that wasn't punished by fahy,also a lot of loose hands interfering with faceguards..next day out will be interesting as I think it's the winners of cork/Antrim for ye..I feel sorry for Henry dealing with that.."
Flynn 2 high challenges that should have been red? Both were smaller players ducking the challenge. Flynn must be 6'3 6'4 himself. Not a chance either were reds

mr305 (Galway) - Posts: 43 - 05/06/2022 10:24:11    2422309

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Replying To tiobraid:  "They're generally favourites or joint favs for leinster which puts them within touching distance of a final.
For me galway have had players that are hanging around the panel for years and have never nailed down a starting position. A few are gone at this stage but there was a few playing yesterday. There's something wrong in Galway that they can't bring through more players. Kk only had 6 of their 2019 team playing and by my calculations Galway had 9/10 of their 2017/2018 team playing and if the likes of Joe and glynn were around they'd be playing as well. It has cost Tipp badly not bringing through players and I think the same has happened Galway. Hardly any make it through. Galway seem to have very little to come off the bench yet have always strong underage teams. Morrissey and Grealish were probably brought in more as a necessity than anything else and they are two fine players who have developed quickly once given the chance. The likes of Glennon, N. Burke, Flynn and Cooney have had plenty of chances over the years but because of that surely some players have slipped through the net."
I agree with this. When you compared the benches yesterday KK's was vastly better in terms of experience and talent. And grealish morrisey like you say were because of being a necessity. I think Morrisey will have a great career ahead of him and will be a future captain.

mr305 (Galway) - Posts: 43 - 05/06/2022 10:27:46    2422311

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Disappointing evening for our hurlers. Lots on here will I'm sure single our players again, many not even from Galway!! We pack our defence and all year hitting hopeless balls into the forward line. We need to develop a better attacking plan. Things have improved under Henry. Give him more time to get the best of our players he has.

KaiserChief (Galway) - Posts: 15 - 05/06/2022 10:36:11    2422319

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A bad day at the office but some over the top reaction in here I feel and as for the Westmeath poster coming in here to put the boot in, I couldn't help but laugh.

Defence was on top for most part, worked hard to win breaking ball all over the field so I felt the intensity was there. We also carved open Kilkenny a few times in the first half and should have got at least 2 goals. Unfortunately it was inability to win clean ball inside and persistent fouling (when you have someone like Tj lined up to take them) that was the difference.

Huge credit to Kilkenny they brought some intensity, the Galway lads didn't have a second. Even with a minute to go and 5 points up they hounded us in our own half back line.

We again in to weeks, let's keep the faith.

ahsure. (Galway) - Posts: 1430 - 05/06/2022 10:37:21    2422320

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Replying To tiobraid:  "They're generally favourites or joint favs for leinster which puts them within touching distance of a final.
For me galway have had players that are hanging around the panel for years and have never nailed down a starting position. A few are gone at this stage but there was a few playing yesterday. There's something wrong in Galway that they can't bring through more players. Kk only had 6 of their 2019 team playing and by my calculations Galway had 9/10 of their 2017/2018 team playing and if the likes of Joe and glynn were around they'd be playing as well. It has cost Tipp badly not bringing through players and I think the same has happened Galway. Hardly any make it through. Galway seem to have very little to come off the bench yet have always strong underage teams. Morrissey and Grealish were probably brought in more as a necessity than anything else and they are two fine players who have developed quickly once given the chance. The likes of Glennon, N. Burke, Flynn and Cooney have had plenty of chances over the years but because of that surely some players have slipped through the net."
I think you're mixing up Davy Glennon with his brother Ronan as Davy is now playing with Westmeath and Ronan only established himself with Galway this year but has been hampered with a hamstring injury he picked up at the end of the league. Niall Burke is no longer on the panel. I thought Joe and Glynn were needed yesterday actually as it was a dogfight like KK like it to be and those 2 would be well able for that type of game.

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 2761 - 05/06/2022 10:45:57    2422328

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "Well katser another prediction you got very wrong..I'd pardon 4 players,daithi burke,comor whelan and maybe both mannions,the rest would want to have a long look at themselves in the mirror..no leadership,huge problem..also very lucky to finish with 15 on field..are you going to call out your own players for some of the stuff they did yesterday..Flynn 2 high challanges that should have been red,the deliberate stamp that wasn't punished by fahy,also a lot of loose hands interfering with faceguards..next day out will be interesting as I think it's the winners of cork/Antrim for ye..I feel sorry for Henry dealing with that.."
Henry took over a team who were well beaten by Dublin and hammered by Waterford in last year's championship. No point feeling sorry for him. He knew exactly what he was taking on.
I said at the start of the year we're well off being contenders. The key is to try to develop a stronger panel and bring some younger hurlers through.
We have some quality players, but we're carrying a few in the 15 and we have very little to come from the bench.
If a few players don't play well, we're up against it big time and have nothing to change it. I don't like calling players out, but an example would be Flynn coming on. He was on for close to 30 minutes and barely competed for a ball. Throw in a couple of lazy tackles with that and it was a complete waste of a sub.
On the game itself, decision making was poor trying to force goals early on instead of settling into the game. Only Concannon's was a proper goal chance and that was butchered by a poor handpass.
Fahy should have been sent off. It was a braindead thing to do. As a manager I'd be livid with any of my players who did that. I can't agree with you on the others though. Neither of Flynn's fouls were straight reds. They would have to be shoulders to the head for that.
Tackling in general was very poor and countless needless frees were given away. Kilkenny were struggling to score from play and we handed them scores on a plate by fouling. Reid was exemplary with his frees.
We might see a different performance in the next game, but either way we're miles off Limerick at the moment. The priority is to develop this panel.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 1493 - 05/06/2022 10:46:37    2422329

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Replying To ZUL10:  "Then take your hands off the player. Hands all over players was never considered to be tough or hard hurling."
Are you for real.The breeze of the movement of the hurl and you boys go down rolling around and get players sent off.And then every journalist and pundit saying what a disgrace it was for the last two weeks.

Waveitwide (Galway) - Posts: 137 - 05/06/2022 10:49:10    2422330

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Replying To endgame:  "Where's the shock. We've seen it all before. Galway senior hurlers usually flop when it matters. Henry hasn't changed that. Where do all the minors go. Don't even make it to U20 never mind senior.Poor match yesterday. Very poor Galway performance. Currently Leinster does not deserve a direct place for their champions in the All Ireland semi final and the likes of Waterford already gone out of the championship."
Waterford are gone from the championship because they finished second from bottom of a 5 team group and you think they should still be in the championship,all because we didn't perform yesterday.To many counties sticking the knife in here because we lost.

Waveitwide (Galway) - Posts: 137 - 05/06/2022 11:07:41    2422338

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Replying To ahsure.:  "A bad day at the office but some over the top reaction in here I feel and as for the Westmeath poster coming in here to put the boot in, I couldn't help but laugh.

Defence was on top for most part, worked hard to win breaking ball all over the field so I felt the intensity was there. We also carved open Kilkenny a few times in the first half and should have got at least 2 goals. Unfortunately it was inability to win clean ball inside and persistent fouling (when you have someone like Tj lined up to take them) that was the difference.

Huge credit to Kilkenny they brought some intensity, the Galway lads didn't have a second. Even with a minute to go and 5 points up they hounded us in our own half back line.

We again in to weeks, let's keep the faith."
Yes I think Westmeath only scored 1 point from play against Galway in the round robin and that was scored by a Galway man Davy Glennon!

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 2761 - 05/06/2022 11:13:29    2422340

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I'm wondering why has niland fallen so far down the pecking order??he can take a score from play and is a very reliable free taker.

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 1741 - 05/06/2022 11:15:00    2422341

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Maybe Galway are better off going into a quarter final. Tbh I always fancied KK yesterday for no other reason only that I could nt see Galway beating the cats twice in a row. Galway do carry the favourites tag well. I say this as a big Galway fan. Galway still have plenty of top players. Just a poor day yesterday. The ff was out of order though might get suspended yet but if not I'd leave him on bench next day as a punishment. He looks a great prospect though. Daithí Burke immense again. Where is John Hanbury? Anyway best of luck to Galway going forward.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3040 - 05/06/2022 11:17:42    2422342

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One dimensional game plan, hit it into Conor Whelan (who fought hard) & who had no back up which must be frustrating for him & then no plan B from the sideline. Galway played with no freedom to express themselves, too defensive & skilful players like the two Mannion's & Fintan sitting too deep. Monahan must be wondering how he was whipped off & Glennon after a great league must be wondering what he has to do to start. Most of Kilkenny's scores were long range shots like Deegans or Reid's frees. The Kilkenny backs mopped up in the 3 v 2 set up. Manager complaining about frees when we were lucky not to have at least two red cards & kept Kilkenny in the game giving away frees. Having hands around the head & helmet lead to most of the frees. The stamp is not something that people want to see in hurling, to stamp on a prone opponent which could lead to a career ending injury is not acceptable & needs to be dealt with.
If this was the managers best effort Galway are in trouble, he seemed totally rattled by the whole handshake thing. Cody is a seasoned auld dog & began the mind games in Pearse Stadium. The Galway fans & players must be wondering what's going on watching Henry waiting in the tunnel afterwards to shake hands with all the Kilkenny panel.
No excuses really for M'ment, lots of financial backing, backing by the Board, backing of supporters & lots of talent in clubs & from successful underage teams & yet one of Cody's least talented teams turns them over. Corner back getting man of the match was great to see, rather than TJ, real display of giving it everything, he epitomised everything about Kilkenny y'day.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 05/06/2022 11:49:58    2422358

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