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Mayo V Tyrone All-Ireland Football Final

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Replying To BlueBeret:  "Congratulations to Tyrone on winning Sam with an exhibition of speed, controlled aggression and skill.So many games are won or lost by poor management and this was certainly true yesterday. AOS had a poor game by anyone's standards and was left on the pitch for the entire game for some very strange reason. To have the non-playing captain on the pitch to collect Sam? Mentally Mayos players, management and certainly their supporters thought they had it won when they beat Dublin. Crazy mentality. One definition of stupidity is doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different result but Mayo aren't stupid, are they?"
Were you at the game?

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 5688 - 12/09/2021 10:18:58    2379868

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Congratulations to Tyrone, utterly deserved, thought they were brilliant, composed, no fear, together, well prepared, skilful, never panicked, brave, fierce, warriors, deadly in front of goal.

Thought McCurry & Sludden were brilliant, McNamee and Hampsey to. don't think Morgan is getting the credit for his performance, not a player I like, but he's an incredible year and I thought he was brilliant yesterday, an option for the out ball for his defenders, free taking, seeing the space and knowing when to play fly keeper and the duel power of the distance and accuracy of his kicking was incredible. Very close to footballer of the year for me, but very hard for Keepers to get it.

I have a lot of compassion for Mayo supporters and I wanted Mayo to win. But I was incredibly frustrated by Mayo performance yesterday, if you knew nothing about football yesterday and you had to pick a team that had experience of what about 6/7 finals in the last 10 years you would have picked Tyrone. This was the year with the super powers of Dublin and Kerry knocked out. I couldn't believe they looked like they had learned absolutely nothing from previous finals, taking on silly shots, dropping balls shorts, hitting silly wides, playing once they crossed the forward like a rabbit in the headlights. I found it incredibly frustrating, like I say I was hoping through compassion that some of the players would win one, but looked to me that they have learned zero from any previous finals. Whatever about being unlucky coming up against the greatest team of all time, 2012 and 2020 and yesterday were massive opportunities, but the same mistakes are made final after final with no learning, thats criminal. The team and management team just don't deserve an All Ireland on that basis. I have huge time for Mayo supporters and as a football county, they deserve better. I'd be furious.

But yesterday and likely to Jan is Tyrones time. Worthy Champions and best team in Ireland, very much enjoy!, Delighted for the Tyrone lads on here, the best ones are the ones your not expecting! ;)

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4168 - 12/09/2021 10:36:39    2379875

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Not the best final I've seen. Third quarter it seemed both sets of forwards were a bit nervous when shooting for points and were both trying to kick it away, Tyrone's settled towards the end
and saw them through. Hennelly's bad decision to run out and McShane's smart finish turned out to be the deciding moment of match. This match was a lot about the goal chances, Mayo missed too many, Tyrone players kept their heads and did brilliantly for their 2 goals.
Last few finals against Dublin Mayo had played well but lost out, this one will be harder to take for Mayo, will be even bigger mental baggage to carry if they get to another final in next few years as this seemed a great chance for them before the final (after beating Dublin in semi) but they didn't perform.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 996 - 12/09/2021 10:40:06    2379877

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Replying To endgame:  "Jimmy White only lost six finals. Mayo have lost eleven finals since 1989."
Dougal had the same problem, 'til Ted told him the plastic cows were near, and the cows in the field were far away. Perhaps you're aware of this, but Jimmy White was one man with an 'athletic' lifespan. Mayo, in complete contrast, are a team that can regenerate, have been around for 100+ years, and will be around for as long as GAA football exists. How many finals Jimmy White would lose in 33 years, if he could maintain athletic peak for that duration, is anybody's guess.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 2514 - 12/09/2021 10:53:42    2379882

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "Brolly taking a lot of flak for his assessment in the Indo. Taking the emotion out of it and stepping back for a moment though. Is Joe Brolly wrong? Not at all. He's bang on the money about Mayo and he doesn't dress it up in flowery language. O'Shea didn't turn up AGAIN in an All Ireland, Mayo's sideline were reluctant to make the big calls and they mentally withered under pressure. Why is Brolly getting so much stick for giving an honest and truthful opinion?"
I haven't read anything today from Joe but he's been consistent in his criticism of Mayo. At times i think he's harsh and is purely seeking attention however I unfortunately have to agree with his overall sentiment.
Celebratry losers.... harsh and very difficult to take today but after what i saw yesterday.....True

A Limerick poster said he was sick feeling sorry for Mayo fans and he's right. How could you feel sorry for us? We have players and teams that most counties would love to have but we don't seem to have an attitude of win at all costs.

Cbar (Mayo) - Posts: 208 - 12/09/2021 11:06:35    2379889

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Replying To endgame:  "Jimmy White only lost six finals. Mayo have lost eleven finals since 1989."
They'll be going for the dirty dozen next year.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1389 - 12/09/2021 11:07:06    2379890

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "Brolly taking a lot of flak for his assessment in the Indo. Taking the emotion out of it and stepping back for a moment though. Is Joe Brolly wrong? Not at all. He's bang on the money about Mayo and he doesn't dress it up in flowery language. O'Shea didn't turn up AGAIN in an All Ireland, Mayo's sideline were reluctant to make the big calls and they mentally withered under pressure. Why is Brolly getting so much stick for giving an honest and truthful opinion?"
Fair point. Aidan O' Shea is an amateur player that gives his all for his county. He might not have played well yesterday and there is no harm in saying that. Brolly is doing something different. He is kicking a guy when he is down.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3876 - 12/09/2021 11:11:53    2379892

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Well done to Tyrone, most folk had them written off at the beginning of the year and that continued after conceding 6 goals against Kerry. Their stiff opposition in Ulster would have helped them on their journey as the kept improving. Apart from the first 3-4 minutes they looked composed, in control and very focused. Very entertaining match and Ref did a good job. Lots of good incidents in the match- best display of a keeper in an AI that I have seen with him coming 20m+ out of goals, winning the ball and racing upfield, coupled with his two points. The run by McKenna with his inch perfect hand pass and the speed / race of of McCurry to get on the end of it to score. Good management helps.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2278 - 12/09/2021 11:17:54    2379894

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "Brolly taking a lot of flak for his assessment in the Indo. Taking the emotion out of it and stepping back for a moment though. Is Joe Brolly wrong? Not at all. He's bang on the money about Mayo and he doesn't dress it up in flowery language. O'Shea didn't turn up AGAIN in an All Ireland, Mayo's sideline were reluctant to make the big calls and they mentally withered under pressure. Why is Brolly getting so much stick for giving an honest and truthful opinion?"
The problem with Brolly is he makes things very personal. He preaches about the community and social ethos of GAA. And then writes articles or tweets that are personal attacks on the character of amateur sports people. He's a hypocrite. And he has no more idea of the real personalities of those Mayo players as you or me. He makes up all kinds of anecdotal stories which are just figments of his imagination.

And if Mayo had won, he'd have probably written something very critical and personal about Tyrone. And added some anecdote which is bullsh*t to give it colour.

Look how he targets Rte these days, some of his criticisms are legitimate but he never seemed to mention them for all the years Rte paid him to do punditry. Back then Sky and subscription tv was the enemy. He just flip flops when it suits.

HighKings (Meath) - Posts: 271 - 12/09/2021 11:19:21    2379895

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Replying To BlueBeret:  "Congratulations to Tyrone on winning Sam with an exhibition of speed, controlled aggression and skill.So many games are won or lost by poor management and this was certainly true yesterday. AOS had a poor game by anyone's standards and was left on the pitch for the entire game for some very strange reason. To have the non-playing captain on the pitch to collect Sam? Mentally Mayos players, management and certainly their supporters thought they had it won when they beat Dublin. Crazy mentality. One definition of stupidity is doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different result but Mayo aren't stupid, are they?"
I don't think it's accurate to say Mayo thought we had won after the SF. But I certainly felt a lot more nervous yesterday than any other final. There was a feeling that this Tyrone team were not as good as the Dublin teams we played over past 10 years and therefore this represented a big chance. I don't think that's over confident?

But agree with the rest of your comments. Always had doubts about Horans decisions on the day. I thought he had turned a corner with some good big calls in the SF but not a good day yesterday.

And when you talk about stupidity.... in the 2013 final Brogan got a tap in goal from a high ball in.... 8 years later the same thing happens with the same keeper.... how could anyone feel sorry for us.... it's incompetence of the highest degree

Cbar (Mayo) - Posts: 208 - 12/09/2021 11:22:35    2379896

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Replying To steakknife:  "Well done to Tyrone. As already mentioned delighted for the likes of Harte, Donnelly etc. Was up for them yesterday, sick of the whole " 31 counties will be supporting Mayo " nonsense talk before the game. Felt like Joe McQuillan certainly tried to do his part for Mayo. Although he played well its disappointing to see such an experienced player like Keegan screaming in I believe it was McCurry's face after that miss, for all the physical talk that gets thrown at Tyrone, they were squeaky clean yesterday. Shows your strength and depth when you're able to bring the likes of McShane/Donaghy/Canavan off the bench. Enjoy the celebrations. All in all best team won so they're can be no complaints."
McQuillan for all this talk of Dublin Joe has always given decisions to Mayo when he's reffed them in big matches.
Not sure but did James Horan psych him out of it sometime.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 1564 - 12/09/2021 11:23:01    2379897

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I think Mayo probably need a different manager or someone more tactically astute. Mayo badly bungled first halves against Galway and Dublin, they won by just unleashing chaos. Tyrone were excellent at subduing Mayo, by and large won the big match ups and unexpectedly won at midfield and on kick outs.

HokeyPokey (Tyrone) - Posts: 1736 - 12/09/2021 11:27:06    2379899

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "Brolly taking a lot of flak for his assessment in the Indo. Taking the emotion out of it and stepping back for a moment though. Is Joe Brolly wrong? Not at all. He's bang on the money about Mayo and he doesn't dress it up in flowery language. O'Shea didn't turn up AGAIN in an All Ireland, Mayo's sideline were reluctant to make the big calls and they mentally withered under pressure. Why is Brolly getting so much stick for giving an honest and truthful opinion?"
It's easy to write today after the match. In fairness to Brolly, he called it for Tyrone last Sunday and identified problems with Mayo that were all too obvious yesterday. Most pundits had predicted a Mayo win and they were favourites in paddy powers.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 1564 - 12/09/2021 11:27:49    2379900

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Replying To blackspot91:  "Having the opinion that Mayo will win is not the same as saying Tyrone having no chance."
OMG you wont let up will you! Hyperbole is a fans perogative. Hang on to your attitude for something more worthwhike and I will cradle my hypetbole. God some people.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4732 - 12/09/2021 11:54:56    2379908

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Agree with nearly all of your post User. What a great year for Tyrone. Written off after league and despite injuries and covid they ploughed through to win Sam. Morgan? What can you say. A good few posters were calling for him to be dropped a while back but he has been the X factor for them. Yes he errs as he is human but don't think Tyrone would be champs without him. His sportsmanship in the semi won't be forgotten either down in the Kingdom. He showed a maturity and class. Mayo? My heart goes out to them. Great warriors and its so tough on their supporters. I ll leave Mayo talk for another day so just want to congratulate Tyrone. Finally to you Username glad you watched game and in a way its relaxing as no nerves. Anyway we can all look forward now again to club and league again and we will do it all again next year. Fall in and out with each other because of our common love for our sport and our counties. I love it!

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 2769 - 12/09/2021 11:59:11    2379910

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Well I'm as sick as a small hospital today but we had a great night celebrating Tyrones win , I said on here that I'd support ye after ye bate us in the semifinal and I did but I over did it, luckily my club colours are red and white (I won't tell ye why that is coz ye'll laugh) :-)

My commiserations to Mayo, I thought it was going to be a step too far for ye this year coming out of div 2 and without the countrys top scorer Cillian O'Connor (an awful loss not just from frees, although he might have scored that penalty) anyway ye know the drill now reset and go again the same as the rest of us.

My heartiest congratulations to the allireland champions Tyrone, ye did it the hard way lads and ye deserve yer allireland, Kieran Mcgeary will be player of the year and Niall Morgan is some leader on the pitch, best goalie around.

Anyway enjoy it lads and congrats again.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 13754 - 12/09/2021 12:07:09    2379912

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A few points

The Mayo fans are a credit to their county. Great lads, lovely girls and magnanimous in defeat but they will all be back next year no matter about yesterday.

The Mayo management got their biggest call wrong by playing Aidan O'Shea. O'Shea made no significant impact in the game and after the throw-in in the first half got his next touch after 17 mins. In the second half I asked my mate had O'Shea being taken off. Making O'Shea captain was a mistake and his inclusion in the team must annoy squad members?

Credit must be given to the Tyrone management team in their analysis of the game and teams in this Championship. Tyrone have pinpointed how to most effectively hurt the opposition and how to contain the opposition's attacks.

It is one thing to know how to hurt the opposition but Tyrone were very poor in their shooting. Tyrone forwards will have to be much more accurate in their score taking or next year they will be found out badly.

Tyrone must find a reliable free taker, at this stage this is beyond a joke.

The Tyrone midfielders Kilpatrick and Kennedy were immense yesterday a complete revelation and it was their displays that were crucial in the Tyrone win. These two guys have the potential to be central to Tyrone success in years to come.

sam2008 (Tyrone) - Posts: 789 - 12/09/2021 12:11:54    2379916

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I think Joe Brolly is spot on actually.

I said it here beforehand. AOS shouldn't have started. He is detrimental to what Mayo are trying to do and achieve. I said the Goalie Hennelly has howlers in him and yesterday he was caught for the two goals I'd argue. It's inexplicable that James Horan left AOS on the field.

Tyrone were full value for the win. Dooher and Logan have are the part and will go down as greats of the game. James Horan can't be described as that. I have no sympathy for Mayo. I wouldn't begrudge them an All Ireland but they are tough to listen to when they are losing never mind winning. A bit like the English media tbh.

Horan has done a good job rebuilding. Possibly the next generation of celebrity losers though.

daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 3963 - 12/09/2021 12:14:21    2379919

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Replying To Galway9801:  "If I remember correctly a few years ago the tyrone chairwoman at the time (she may still be there) was almost hounded out of the county for suggesting that the team might, just might, be best served by Mickey Harte stepping aside.
I'd love to know what she's thinking right now."
Tyrone are All Ireland champions today.

MicktheMiller (Offaly) - Posts: 401 - 12/09/2021 12:24:37    2379920

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Replying To HighKings:  "The problem with Brolly is he makes things very personal. He preaches about the community and social ethos of GAA. And then writes articles or tweets that are personal attacks on the character of amateur sports people. He's a hypocrite. And he has no more idea of the real personalities of those Mayo players as you or me. He makes up all kinds of anecdotal stories which are just figments of his imagination.

And if Mayo had won, he'd have probably written something very critical and personal about Tyrone. And added some anecdote which is bullsh*t to give it colour.

Look how he targets Rte these days, some of his criticisms are legitimate but he never seemed to mention them for all the years Rte paid him to do punditry. Back then Sky and subscription tv was the enemy. He just flip flops when it suits."
Excellent post and I agree 100%.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 2769 - 12/09/2021 12:35:40    2379924

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